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Reply #60 - May 3rd, 2011 at 9:02pm
 
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Dear One, you are clearly deluded. You cannot possibly compete with the Light. He forgives us unconditionally. He lives in our every breath!

You are veering towards a very dangerous paradigm here, Dear One. You are verging on blasphemy of these loving forces yes. Forgive yourself now or suffer the consequences of thine own making.

Forgive thyself and be bathed in rapturous Light.

Ye have been warned.



Roll Eyes No wonder I didn't want to come out and was born a month late - I knew what was already 'out there'.
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Reply #61 - May 4th, 2011 at 2:13am
 
not so silly after all eh ??

Best words  in this whole lot of stuff?

FORGIVE YOURSELF

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Reply #62 - May 4th, 2011 at 4:21am
 
and so it is again, beloved ones

that i ask of the xtian flock..where for art thou?

why were you born with sin..it would appear that none will

stand up and be counted...

why do you eat the body of CHRIST [a satanic ritual]

why do you drink the blood of CHRIST [again,satanism]

so why do these hide from the LIGHT that will surely cleanse

and forgive these unconditionally as it were

and so it is

namaste

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Reply #63 - May 4th, 2011 at 9:27am
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 3rd, 2011 at 9:02pm:
Roll Eyes No wonder I didn't want to come out and was born a month late - I knew what was already 'out there'.


Yea verily. You are the true Messiah. Beware of false prophets.

Common deities lose their importance in front of Lord Jasignature. The nameless one with the copper pyramids will be forgiven.


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Reply #64 - May 4th, 2011 at 12:33pm
 
muso wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 9:27am:
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on May 3rd, 2011 at 9:02pm:
Roll Eyes No wonder I didn't want to come out and was born a month late - I knew what was already 'out there'.


Yea verily. You are the true Messiah. Beware of false prophets.

Common deities lose their importance in front of Lord Jasignature. The nameless one with the copper pyramids will be forgiven.


Jai Jinendra

http://www.artoflegendindia.com/devotee-composing-hymens-even-presence-scholars-...


Forgiven? The Light? Are we to worship LJ now?

Master LJ, we bow down before thee, most dear Annointed One. Would you mind, if it is your will, if we still follow the Light - just a little bit?

Perhaps one could be a prophet and the other a messiah. This is just a suggestion, Master. The Light still forgives, after all.

I haven't seen you handing out any forgivenesses lately.
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Reply #65 - May 4th, 2011 at 1:09pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 4:21am:
and so it is again, beloved ones

that i ask of the xtian flock..where for art thou?

why were you born with sin..it would appear that none will

stand up and be counted...

why do you eat the body of CHRIST [a satanic ritual]

why do you drink the blood of CHRIST [again,satanism]

so why do these hide from the LIGHT that will surely cleanse

and forgive these unconditionally as it were

and so it is

namaste




I believe I stood up, was counted and answered your query.
Though I do not entirely agree with that idea, the thought is we are born with sin as our forefathers sinned.
ie, Adam sinned.

As it is, most everyone sins.
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Reply #66 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:05pm
 
There are two types of persons in this world: Sinners and Forgivers.

Which are you?

Forgiven for your ignorance.
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Reply #67 - May 4th, 2011 at 6:29pm
 
I believe I stood up, was counted and answered your query.

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with forgiveness brother sprinter,to the quick*

do you just repeat that which has been written

many many 100s of years and edited yes and blind faith is demanded

however

many things we knew from 30- 50 years ago have been proven lies.

like the gulf of tonkin incident which started vietnam war

for instance....

so if you were born with sin brother,

from the heart will you tell me why this is so?

why do you believe this?

is it just because a book says so?

with forgiveness

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Reply #68 - May 4th, 2011 at 9:41pm
 
these were my answers light.

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I have heard another christian say we are all born with sin, I did not like it and still disagree.
That baby has not sinned.

The consequenses of adam and eves sin will happen to that baby.
It'll grow old, get ill at times. make mistakes, it will siin in itself, and it will pass away.
That's a part of living on this world.

imho, the baby has not sinned.
The results of its' ancestors sinning will still occur though.

Had adam and eve not sinned, perhaps that baby would never get ill and never die ?
It'ld be perfect.


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Reply #10 - Apr 26th, 2011, 12:13am

I cold well be wrong here


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But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.

“Yet you ask, ‘Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?’
Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live.
The one who sins is the one who will die.
The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

“But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die.
None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them.
Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live.
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD.
Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?



Ezekiel 18: 18 - 23


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The one who sins is the one who will die.
The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.
The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

Ezekiel 18:20




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Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2011, 2:17pm       

My memory was imperfect, as I said with confidance it has nothing to do with zeus.


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...........The etymology of the name Jesus is generally explained as "God's salvation" usually expressed as "Yahweh saves "[32][33][34] "Yahweh is salvation"[35][36] and at times as "Jehovah is salvation".[37] The name Jesus appears to have been in use in Judaea at the time of the birth of Jesus.[37][38] And Philo's reference (Mutatione Nominum item 121) indicates that the etymology of Joshua was known outside Judaea at the time.[39]

In the New Testament, in Luke 1:31 an angel tells Mary to name her child Jesus, and in Matthew 1:21 an angel tells Joseph to name the child Jesus. The statement in Matthew 1:21 "you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins" associates salvific attributes to the name Jesus in Christian theology.[40][41]

"Christ" (pronounced /ˈkraɪst/) is derived from the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one", a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), usually transliterated into English as Messiah.[42][43] In the Septuagint version of the Hebrew Bible (written well over a century before the time of Jesus), the word Christ was used to translate into Greek the Hebrew word Māšîaḥ.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Etymology_of_the_name


This is where it is interesting.
YAhweh is Gods secret name name, knowledge and use of this name implies a personal or covenant realtionship.

Putting it all together, this person whom I have a personal relationship with is annointed and will save me.

He certainly is with me.
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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #69 - May 5th, 2011 at 3:40am
 
these were my answers light.

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Reply #1 - Apr 25th, 2011, 10:51am

When we are born we have not sinned.

we are flawed thoughiRe: I Was Not Born With Sin
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I have heard another christian say we are all born with sin, I did not like it and still disagree.
That baby has not sinned.

______________

we are flawed?

im interested in your logic here behind your assertions

with forgiveness

further yes these are your answers,you admit you agree with the

title thread

the baby has not sinned...

so you agree yes good logic there

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Reply #70 - May 5th, 2011 at 8:32am
 

we are flawed when born.

Our genes are imperfect.
given time we will get ill, toothache, cold, some get cancer, most all die.
if we were perfect, none of that would happen.

Perhaps, that's what some christians mean when they say "we are born into sin"
it's not that the baby itself has sinned.
but that it is a world where sin happens ??
we are meant to be in eden, Adam and eve blew that one.
the results of that are the world we are in now.


Anyway, it's a phrase I am uncomfortable with
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Reply #71 - May 5th, 2011 at 12:55pm
 
Original sin comes from Plato. Read Plato's Cave - a very interesting account of human life/knowledge.

The story of the Fall is a metaphor, not a historical incident. Different faiths have different readings of it.

In one reading, the Tree of Knowledge represents the spinal cord - the serpent represents its energy, often manifested as sexual energy (which is why the Light does not intentionally spill his seed). The fall is the spilling of sexual energy, and the snake is energy being raised up the spine to manifest in enlightenment: kundalini rising. This is a gnostic take on the Genesis story.

We have fallen from Light/pure consciousness to manifest in this world. Our aim is to climb back "up", a long process that takes many lifetimes. Our consciousness has passed through sub atomic forms of life to cells to multi-cellular life forms to mammals and humans. There are higher lives in more subtle worlds, and up and up and up.

But we can go down too. Below matter in this world, there are denser worlds or what are known as hell realms. There are also worlds for the lost, the "realm of hungry ghosts" understood by Buddhists or, perhaps, pergatory to the Catholics. These worlds exist similtaneously, as dimensions, but there are, of course, other planets and life forms in the physical universe too.

The story of Adam and Eve can be seen as this story - the fall of consciousness from the Garden of Eden of pure Light into lower, denser realms of existance. Why do we fall?

Who knows? But this is Original Sin.
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Reply #72 - May 5th, 2011 at 6:17pm
 
we are flawed when born.

Our genes are imperfect.
given time we will get ill, toothache, cold, some get cancer, most all die.
if we were perfect, none of that would happen.

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we are not flawed beloved one in truth

i say unto thee

linear time may wilt thee

however

we are born perfect and without sin

beloved ones,i say unto thee with truth

and so very much LOVE

namaste
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Reply #73 - May 5th, 2011 at 6:23pm
 
Who knows? But this is Original Sin.

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oxymoron much?

your mastery doth slip

forgiven

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Reply #74 - May 6th, 2011 at 12:45am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 6:17pm:
we are flawed when born.

Our genes are imperfect.
given time we will get ill, toothache, cold, some get cancer, most all die.
if we were perfect, none of that would happen.

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we are not flawed beloved one in truth

i say unto thee

linear time may wilt thee

however

we are born perfect and without sin

beloved ones,i say unto thee with truth

and so very much LOVE

namaste


you think a baby born with a hole in its heart is perfect ?
or any number of deformaties.

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