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What Are They Going To Do For The Homeless.
Apr 24th, 2011 at 9:58am
 
THE Baillieu government is refusing to sign up to a federal target to halve homelessness by 2020, and is instead preparing its own multimillion-dollar strategy to cut the number of Victorians ''sleeping rough''.

With the latest census figures suggesting more than 20,500 people are at present homeless in Victoria, the government is preparing to overhaul the way agencies assisting the homeless are funded.

It is expected to allocate at least $34 million in next month's budget to an initiative focused on providing housing to young homeless people who are committed to finding a job.


Housing Minister Wendy Lovell said the government did not accept the Commonwealth's goal to halve homelessness by 2020, because it was an ''aspirational goal'' that would be too hard to measure given there is no nationally consistent and accepted definition of homelessness.

''We're committed to reducing homelessness, but I'm not about to set a target given the difficulty in counting people [who are homeless] and given the difficulty in actually measuring whether you've halved it or not,'' Ms Lovell said.



Her comments come as Prime Minister Julia Gillard's key adviser on homelessness warned that Victoria is at risk of falling behind other states unless it does more to address the number of people without a secure home.   Sad

Brotherhood of St Laurence executive director Tony Nicholson, who chairs the Prime Minister's Council on Homelessness, said Victoria had ''led the nation'' in responding to homelessness for the past few decades, but was now at risk of falling behind other states such as South Australia and Western Australia. He said if Victoria wanted to reduce homelessness, the government's strategy should focus on providing more cheap housing and giving young people at risk of homelessness greater chances of getting jobs. But he said the government should also sign on to the national goals, because ''as with any endeavour, unless you set a target and measure progress, things don't happen''.   Wink

Sacred Heart Mission chief executive Michael Perusco agreed. ''Having a target focuses everyone's efforts on meeting a common goal … so it would be disappointing if the government didn't sign up to it,'' he said. Sad

The government can't say how soon its homeless strategy will be in place, but it is expected to overhaul the system so that funding is linked to performance.

At present, agencies tend to be funded on throughput rather than the quality of their service and the outcomes they achieve to ensure the cycle of homelessness doesn't continue. Hanover chief executive Tony Keenan said it was important this changed because ''at the moment, the system is designed to reward failure''.   Sad

Ms Lovell said the government would look at ''outcomes based'' arrangements for homeless services. The $42 million Labor previously committed as part of its homeless strategy last year would be retained, she said, and a further $34 million is likely to be allocated as part of the May 3 budget for three 40-bed centres that tie accommodation for young homeless with a mutual contract to get a job.


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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 10:15am
 
Good call.....each state should be responsible for their own housing programs.

The federal govt. never meet their target so they make the states fudge the figures so that it looks better than it is.

It will get worse, the government have lost all control and the opposition would/will be worse.

Buy a top of the range tent and see if they'll throw in an ensuite at a 50% discount.
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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 11:09am
 
Quote: - ""It is expected to allocate at least $34 million in next month's budget to an initiative focused on providing housing to young homeless people who are committed to finding a job.""


Their age, and whether they are 'committed' to finding a job
is irrelevant.

Efforts should be made to assist ALL homeless.

NO exceptions. And NO excuses.
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Kat wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 11:09am:
Quote: - ""It is expected to allocate at least $34 million in next month's budget to an initiative focused on providing housing to young homeless people who are committed to finding a job.""


Their age, and whether they are 'committed' to finding a job
is irrelevant.

Efforts should be made to assist ALL homeless.

NO exceptions. And NO excuses.

 

Many of the homeless have mental health problems, they go hand in hand. Quite often unemployment led to homelessness which led to mental health problems.

There was a point somewhere along the line when they had a job and a home.

There was usually a point somewhere along the line where they became homeless.

It is pretty easy to fix the problem, but not for the government, they are far too incompetent, and it's tomorrows problem.....let the next lot worry about it   Angry
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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 4:08pm
 
when Villawood detention centre is rebuilt the fences could be taken down and homeless housed there....and all the illegals then transported by cattle truck and dumped in the simpson desert
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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 4:15pm
 
billy the fish id are you channelling adolph?

or comming up with this elitism all your lone self..are you a jesuit?

or a member of the brotherhood of the snake?

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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:29pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 10:15am:
Good call.....each state should be responsible for their own housing programs.

The federal govt. never meet their target so they make the states fudge the figures so that it looks better than it is.

It will get worse, the government have lost all control and the opposition would/will be worse.

Buy a top of the range tent and see if they'll throw in an ensuite at a 50% discount.




why are you convinced the opposition would be worse.... NO ONE could be worse than this lot at anything... Mr Bean could do a better job lets face it!
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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:40pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:29pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 10:15am:
Good call.....each state should be responsible for their own housing programs.

The federal govt. never meet their target so they make the states fudge the figures so that it looks better than it is.

It will get worse, the government have lost all control and the opposition would/will be worse.

Buy a top of the range tent and see if they'll throw in an ensuite at a 50% discount.




why are you convinced the opposition would be worse.... NO ONE could be worse than this lot at anything... Mr Bean could do a better job lets face it!



We had a significant homeless problem for the eleven years that the libs were in power, they did nothing then so I wouldn't expect them to jump over hoops to fix the problem if they returned to power. They are as bad as each other, they care only about sucking the people in until the next election, governments are not concerned with long term policies, it gets them nowhere as you can see with the NBN, short term fixes are much more popular.

Besides both the libs and labs are right wing so it would be a conflict of their own interests to provide massive affordable accommodation since they are in bed with the real estate moguls.
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Reply #8 - Apr 25th, 2011 at 2:29am
 
It's a state issue... let the states deal with it.
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Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2011 at 7:09am
 
stop or reduce foreighn aid to indonesia and india and spend it on housing these people...or ask clive palmer for financial  help to do so as i am sure he will oblige with the surplus he has acumulated by avoiding mining tax
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It seems like there are a few different ways to tackle the problem of homelessness. I can't see that dumping the problem onto the states would be of any benefit. The individual states and territories are just as incompetent as the federal government. That would just be a different government to blame for the homelessness.

No, Clive Palmer or any other of the mining magnates are not about to part with their hard earned cash  Roll Eyes they're too busy buying failed football clubs for purposes of prestige  Cool

The homeless are going to have to wait until after the great depression when the country will put all efforts into rebuilding and restructuring new schools, hospitals and housing, roads etc........a big new Australia just like after the war, then leave it to crumble again like last time lol
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Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2011 at 12:20pm
 
I like how they use the number of homeless people as a measure of the housing shortage. As if any of these homeless people would be able to afford to buy a house any way Sad

There is a hell of a lot of vacant public housing just sitting around doing nothing. Why ?? Is this part of the scam. Boost the homeless and you automatically boost the housing shortage statistics and hence keep the housing bubble inflated by repeating the same lie Wink
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housing being the most expensive in the world in Australia now- its  only affordable to people with incomes  of $150.000 p.a.and above
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They will do about as much to help the homeless
as they do for the jobless.

Nothing.

Maybe start penalising and punishing them for
BEING homeless, that seems to be their style.
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Kat wrote on Apr 25th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
They will do about as much to help the homeless
as they do for the jobless.

Nothing.

Maybe start penalising and punishing them for
BEING homeless, that seems to be their style.



If they're on benefits they'll halve it because they don't pay for accommodation, so they don't need as much lol
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