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Re: Osama dead
Reply #30 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 3:54pm

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 3:17pm:

Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.

Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Psalms 28:3
Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.
4 Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.

Proverbs 26:24
He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;
25 When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.
26 Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95912 Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #31 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:07pm Funny that. You just posted the same sentiments written in the Koran. Substantiating my unsubstantiated assertions? Forgive us all, Father.
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Re: Osama dead
Reply #32 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:20pm

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:07pm:

Funny that. You just posted the same sentiments written in the Koran.

Substantiating my unsubstantiated assertions?

Forgive us all, Father.

The ummah are a closed community.

Those outside ummah have the status of cattle.

i.e.
They can live, while they are 'useful' to moslems, but they are not 'protected'.

ISLAMIC law....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/fus3_50.html#3.110

n.b. "Whoever......*becomes an unbeliever*.....his blood may legally be spilled."

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

Allah Akbar.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95912 Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #33 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:26pm And who's Ibn Abbas then?
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Re: Osama dead
Reply #34 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:37pm

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:26pm:

And who's Ibn Abbas then?

You play the 'innocent' soooo well Karnal.
/sarc off

Google;
Ibn 'Abbas mohammed wiki

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Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Psalms 28:3
Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.
4 Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert.

Proverbs 26:24
He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;
25 When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.
26 Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Osama dead
Reply #35 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:42pm

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Islam is not against Christianity or Western values.

Is it against freedom of speech or freedom of religion?

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Much of our own jurisprudence and ideals of social justice were inspired by Islam.

Is that where we go the whole 'stone the cheating child bride to death' idea from?

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We now have the opportunity - through grace, respect and humility - to put this war to rest.

Just because osama is dead?

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95912 Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #36 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 4:51pm Thank you, effende. Blessings be unto you, insh'allah.
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Re: Osama dead
Reply #37 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:00pm

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 9:42am:

abu_rashid wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 8:55pm:

Because you spoke ill of him, and because the picture was so poorly photoshopped it didn't deserve to be shown.

Spoke ill of him? Have you joined the Osama fan club?

I'm not a fan - but I see no cause for celebration. There has never been any conclusive proof that Osama was responsible for all these "terrorist" acts - not even 9/11. We are only told what our Jewish media wants us to hear.

Who really knows if he is dead or still alive? Hasn't this same media told us that he's dead on many different occasions over the last decade? Haven't we also been told that they have captured & killed the leader and mastermind of al-Qaeda and named someone else at least a dozen times?

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #38 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:09pm As a result of this so called bounty killing - we can expect these "terrorist" attacks to escalate. If it really was Osama - do you believe those who revere him aren't going to avenge his execution?
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Re: Osama dead
Reply #39 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:24pm

mantra wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:09pm:

As a result of this so called bounty killing - we can expect these "terrorist" attacks to escalate. If it really was Osama - do you believe those who revere him aren't going to avenge his execution?

How can it be called a 'bounty killing' when he was done in by the Military in the course of their duty?

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Reply #40 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:33pm

They obviously saved themselves $25 million - or did they? We'll never know.

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The $25 million bounty for Osama bin Laden will go unclaimed. The FBI had at one point offered anyone who provided information leading to Osama bin Laden's arrest a big payday.

However, in early May 2011, President Barack Obama announced that US special forces had found and killed Osama bin Laden. Obama did not make mention of any one person qualifying for the bounty by providing critical intelligence.

http://www.zimbio.com/25+Million+Bounty+for+Osama+bin+Laden/articles/vtZZhAi_d2z...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #41 - May 3^rd, 2011 at 7:41pm Quote: We are only told what our Jewish media wants us to hear. Can't wait for Abu to start weaving that one into his little tapestry.
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Re: Osama dead
Reply #42 - May 4^th, 2011 at 12:53am

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:38pm:

Bobby .. you spoke ill of Osama.

Don't do it again or else you will be deleted again!

I wish they could have captured him alive -
given him a fair trial & then hanged him.
That would have been better justice.

Oh yeah... fair.
If the ending was going to be the same, why does it matter?

I see a lot of open celebrating of this mans death, I wonder how those celebrating will feel, when his followers use it as an excuse to kill more innocents.

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Re: Osama dead
Reply #43 - May 4^th, 2011 at 1:20am

Deborahmac09 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:53am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:38pm:

Bobby .. you spoke ill of Osama.

Don't do it again or else you will be deleted again!

I wish they could have captured him alive -
given him a fair trial & then hanged him.
That would have been better justice.

Oh yeah... fair.
If the ending was going to be the same, why does it matter?

I see a lot of open celebrating of this mans death, I wonder how those celebrating will feel, when his followers use it as an excuse to kill more innocents.

It matters because everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence -
no matter how bad the crime they are accused of.

I think this death will mark the end of the war in Afghanistan -
at least the Yanks can say they have won & then pack their bags for home.

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Osama dead Reply #44 - May 4^th, 2011 at 1:24am Yes bobby, but none of us presume he was innocent. I just want to know how he can get a fair trial and then hanged in the same sentence.
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