abu_rashid wrote on May 4
th, 2011 at 6:37am:
Quote:I see a lot of open celebrating of this mans death, I wonder how those celebrating will feel, when his followers use it as an excuse to kill more innocents.
They're allowed to celebrate it because they're Americans. When their family members die, they actually feel sorrow and grief, not like those Muslims, when their family members die it's just normal for them.
They [i.e. moslems] have no rights to revenge, to closure, to justice, to safety, only Americans do, since they are the only worthy humans in this world.
That is a very cynical statement to make Abu, considering that [perhaps ? ] millions of moslems, have been accepted into infidel lands, and that many of those moslems claimed to be fleeing oppression in their own homelands.
And that many of those moslem immigrants
were accepted, by the West, as people seeking sanctuary
I,
sincerely, do not believe in, or endorse the cynical assertion which you made, above.
But i do not accept that moslems should have the right to live in the West and then, be permitted to practise their religion, as though they were living [for example] in Saudi Arabia.
If moslems
themselves, wish to live in the West, then moslems should be willing to abandon those aspects of ISLAMIC life, which clash with the laws and culture of their host nation.
If moslems wish to live as though they are devout moslems, and be able to practice all of their 'religious' 'rights', and the moslem law, then those people, should leave the West, and go to live in a moslem nation.
And i include those people who are Western born converts, who assume the moslem religion and laws.
For example, ISLAMIC custom AND LAW, gives moslems the right to end the life of their children.
We in the West reject such, what is the term, 'religious freedoms'.e.g.
Moslems living in the West, can surely accept that it is merely JUSTICE, that we expect moslems living in the West should integrate fully with our culture, and accept the culture of the West, in just the same way as
Mohammed insisted that non-moslems living in Arabia must accept ISLAM,
OR LEAVE ARABIA....
And here
the words of Mohammed, speaking to Arabian Jews, about the consequence for their rejection of ISLAM...
"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle,
and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so
whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392