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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #60 - May 4^th, 2011 at 2:12pm I find Abu very tolerant. There are quite a few comments left that are offensive. He's very patient considering he has about 90% of the members here giving him a hard time.
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Reply #61 - May 4^th, 2011 at 2:42pm

Deborahmac09 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:53am:

I see a lot of open celebrating of this mans death, I wonder how those celebrating will feel, when his followers use it as an excuse to kill more innocents.

How quickly we forget. Islam = the religion of peace. Listen to how it rolls off the tongue....Islam is the religion of peace. Say it with me: Islam is the religion of peace.

Now go and write it out 100 times and try not to forget it.

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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Reply #62 - May 4^th, 2011 at 3:58pm

salad in wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 2:42pm:

Deborahmac09 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:53am:

I see a lot of open celebrating of this mans death, I wonder how those celebrating will feel, when his followers use it as an excuse to kill more innocents.

How quickly we forget. Islam = the religion of peace. Listen to how it rolls off the tongue....Islam is the religion of peace. Say it with me: Islam is the religion of peace.

Now go and write it out 100 times and try not to forget it.

Sorry, my concentration span isn't long enough to do this for any religion.

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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Osama dead Reply #63 - May 4^th, 2011 at 8:31pm I have it on good authority that Osama Bin Larden was "buried at sea" accompanied, and bound by the skin of pigs, and amidst, and amongst various other suitable offal.
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Osama dead Reply #64 - May 5^th, 2011 at 9:12am It is smart assed people like you that keep wars going. Words should never keep wars going or cause them, but they do.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #65 - May 5^th, 2011 at 6:35pm Quote: Words should never keep wars going or cause them, but they do. Especially if some groups believe death is a fair punishment for insulting the prophet.
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Reply #66 - May 5^th, 2011 at 7:21pm

freediver wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 6:35pm:

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Words should never keep wars going or cause them, but they do.

Especially if some groups believe death is a fair punishment for insulting the prophet.

No arguement there from me.
I however see no purpose in stiring the pot, knowing that words will cause more senceless deaths. But hey, it is never the fault of those who purposly stir the pot knowing what will happen is it?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #67 - May 5^th, 2011 at 9:00pm What is the difference between stirring the pot and defending freedom of speech?
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Reply #68 - May 5^th, 2011 at 9:55pm

freediver wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 9:00pm:

What is the difference between stirring the pot and defending freedom of speech?

Just because we have the freedom to say something, does that mean we should reguardless of the lives it will destroy ? or is your freedom to say whatever you want, worth more than the lives of others ?

When does it leave free speech and become incitement?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #69 - May 5^th, 2011 at 10:01pm So if some Muslim nutter threatens to kill anyone who insults Islam, we should all start self censoring and not criticise Islam? Where do you think that would get us?
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Osama dead Reply #70 - May 5^th, 2011 at 10:04pm Respectfully agree to disagree. There is no point continuing this discussion.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #71 - May 5^th, 2011 at 10:06pm So you support self censorship as a response to attacks on freedom of speech?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105369 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Osama dead Reply #72 - May 5^th, 2011 at 10:09pm Abu has been very quiet for the last day - not a word!
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Reply #73 - May 5^th, 2011 at 10:13pm

freediver wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 10:06pm:

So you support self censorship as a response to attacks on freedom of speech?

If it means saving lives. Especially lives I have no right to endanger. Sometimes holding one's tongue is the right thing to do. Otherwise, I too would be responsable for mass deaths.
There is a difference to sensoring oneself, and making open ended statements without thought of consequences. Politicians do that too often. Putting mouth into gear before brain is engaged.

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Reply #74 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:10am

Deborahmac09 wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:

freediver wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 6:35pm:

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Words should never keep wars going or cause them, but they do.

Especially if some groups believe death is a fair punishment for insulting the prophet.

No arguement there from me.
I however see no purpose in stiring the pot, knowing that words will cause more senceless deaths. But hey, it is never the fault of those who purposly stir the pot knowing what will happen is it?

Threats, and intimidation, and violence, made by wicked evil men, to achieve aims, works.

THAT, is your philosophy of life.

Deborahmac09,

You do not deserve to live as a free person, in an open society, with rights.

People like you would sell your grandparents to knackers yards, would sell their sisters to pimps, and would sell their liberty and rights for a promise of peace.

You are a slave, and that is all you will ever be.

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None can love freedom so heartily, but good men; the rest have not freedom, but licence.
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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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The difference between a free man and a slave is that a slave values his life more than his freedom...
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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