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Reply #91 - May 7^th, 2011 at 9:39am

abu_rashid wrote on May 7^th, 2011 at 8:19am:

Bobby, Islam is not the "religion of peace", this is your little strawman, which it seems you're quite content to hack away at.

Islam is the religion for people, and people do engage in both war and peace, and so Islam deals with both, although it states that peace is better and being the aggressor is bad, being the defender is not though.

Usamah was a defender, he responded in kind to those who have been slaughtering Muslims for decades, and I honestly can't understand how you can fault him on that, other than by subscribing to the hypocritical idea that Western lives are worth more than Muslim lives. That's why the U.S are celebrating, that's why they've waged this propaganda campaign against him, because they subscribe to that idea.

Do you subscribe to it too?

Dear Abu,
And so you support the killing of innocent people by a terrorist organisation?
I am against all war.
In the case of Osama - I am glad they killed him - the world is a better place now.
You seem to forget that it could have been you as a tourist -
visiting the twin towers on 9/11 - who had to jump out the window
or be burnt to death.

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Reply #92 - May 7^th, 2011 at 10:00am

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And so you support the killing of innocent people by a terrorist organisation?

Only a half wit would take that away from what I said.

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I am against all war.

Seems to me you're just another mindless peon responding to propaganda.

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In the case of Osama - I am glad they killed him - the world is a better place now.

Is it? Did anything change on that day that he was supposedly killed? Did you feel it? Perhaps you did, since your emotions and sensations seem driven by media propaganda more than reality.

His position helped to even things out a little, and to return some small sense of balance to the onslaughts of the West on the Muslim world. Without him there, or someone else taking his place, I think the situation will only deteriorate. The West will be emboldened and will step up their inhumanities against the Muslim world, believing their main obstacle has been removed.

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You seem to forget that it could have been you as a tourist

Yeh just as I could've been a tourist in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Lebanon, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Cambodia etc. when the U.S decided to reign down senseless terror from their skies onto the heads of random civilians.

Seems you are confirming my suspicion that in your little mind the lives of Americans (and other Westerners) are worth something, whilst the lives of others are not.

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Reply #93 - May 7^th, 2011 at 10:33am

Abu,
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onslaughts of the West on the Muslim world.

Does that include kicking Saddam out of Kuwait,
an action supported by the Muslim world?

Does that include helping to stop the slaughter of Muslims in Bosnia
voted for by the United Nations?

Does that include making a no fly zone in Libya
to protect Muslims being murdered by Ghadaffi?

Once again - we have history re-written by Abu.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #94 - May 7^th, 2011 at 10:40am Quote: Seems to me you're just another mindless peon responding to propaganda. From the Jew owned media? Quote: Yeh just as I could've been a tourist in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Lebanon, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Cambodia etc. In some kind of training camp?
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Reply #95 - May 7^th, 2011 at 11:49am

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Does that include kicking Saddam out of Kuwait,
an action supported by the Muslim world?

Does that include helping to stop the slaughter of Muslims in Bosnia
voted for by the United Nations?

Does that include making a no fly zone in Libya
to protect Muslims being murdered by Ghadaffi?

Honestly, if you actually believe this tripe, then I'm more astounded than before about how daft you actually are.

I'll leave you to mull over the former U.S assistant defense secretary Lawrence Korb's assessment of these "altruistic" U.S bombings of Muslim countries: “If Kuwait grew carrots, we wouldn’t give a damn.”

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Osama dead Reply #96 - May 7^th, 2011 at 11:50am Quote: In some kind of training camp? fd grow up.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49081 At my desk.	Re: Osama dead Reply #97 - May 7^th, 2011 at 1:02pm Abu, you are the one accusing everyone else of falling victim to propaganda. Your propaganda is the most chilidish thing around here.
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Reply #98 - May 7^th, 2011 at 9:23pm

Bobby.
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(1)Does that include kicking Saddam out of Kuwait,
an action supported by the Muslim world?

(2)Does that include helping to stop the slaughter of Muslims in Bosnia
voted for by the United Nations?

(3)Does that include making a no fly zone in Libya
to protect Muslims being murdered by Ghadaffi?

Abu
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Honestly, if you actually believe this tripe, then I'm more astounded than before about how daft you actually are.

Dear Abu,
I stated 3 facts that I am prepared to back up with links but
I feel it's just a waste of time with you.
First of all you have to be prepared to accept facts
& not re-write history with your Islamic fundamentalist slant.

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Reply #99 - May 8^th, 2011 at 12:52am

abu_rashid wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 9:15pm:

Yadda you are a disgusting excuse for a human being. Retract these despicable statements to Deborah immediately

Deliberately exaggerated 'outrage'.

Abu,

Let me repeat what i said to Deborahmac09, with emphasis on what i actually said....

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Deborahmac09,

I sincerely wish that these two Christian girls had been your own children.

Then perhaps you would more perfectly understand your error.

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Deborahmac09 wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 2:40pm:

Cut the crap, you wished harm on my daughter(s).

Your accusation, is a blatant misrepresentation of what i said.

FACT;
How would i, or anyone else in this forum KNOW that you have two daughters ???

Even now, i certainly don't know that, for a fact.

I was speaking directly of, of, of, of, those two young girls who were abducted and raped, wishing that you would have some empathy with the parents of those two young girls.

But in your tirade against me, you expressed not one word of sympathy for those two Christian girls, 13-years old and 10-years old,
WHO WERE ABDUCTED AND RAPED.

YOU, should be ashamed.

Dictionary;
empathize = = understand and share the feelings of another.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #100 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:23am

My accussation is, you wished harm on my children. Don't try and weasel out of it now. I have in no way exagerated my outrage. You took something that happened to two girls and wished it on my children.
It is a pitty that you do not care about all children, the way you supposidly care about these Christian children.
It happens all over the world, it doesn't matter where, to whom, or who the perpetrators are, it disgusts me the same. I will not single out children of a religion because it might have more shock value.

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Reply #101 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:58am

Deborahmac09 wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 1:23am:

My accussation is, you wished harm on my children. Don't try and weasel out of it now.

I have in no way exagerated my outrage. You took something that happened to two girls and wished it on my children.
It is a pitty that you do not care about all children, the way you supposidly care about these Christian children.
It happens all over the world, it doesn't matter where, to whom, or who the perpetrators are, it disgusts me the same. I will not single out children of a religion because it might have more shock value.

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Deborahmac09,

I sincerely wish that these two Christian girls had been your own children.

Then perhaps you would more perfectly understand your error.

I repeat, i have no knowledge that you have children.

I was speaking of these two children and the anguish of their parents.

YOUR reply, it is about me, me, me, ....and MY children.

We can all see, where you are coming from.

Not selflessness.

But, me, me, me.

Dictionary;
selfless = = concerned more with the needs and wishes of others than with one’s own.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #102 - May 8^th, 2011 at 2:16am

It was not about me, it was about hurting my children. Something that is already happening. Am I protective of them, Yes. Do I fear for one of their safty, yes. Because she is being stalked by her ex who has threatened to kill her. All we can legally do is keep records. Perhaps I over reacted, all i want to do is protect my kids, something you are condemning me for. While telling me I should think about how their parents feel. I already know! We feel powerless.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Osama dead Reply #103 - May 8^th, 2011 at 7:57am <<“If Kuwait grew carrots, we wouldn’t give a damn.”>. .......................................................................... hear! hear!
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