Yadda wrote on Jul 12^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

Emma wrote on Jul 12^th, 2011 at 11:20pm:



jalane,

I have said this previously on OzPol, but i will repeat it again, just for you;

I am not Jewish, and i have no knowledge of any Jewish heritage in my family.


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Further, regards organised religion;

If you believe that the Book of Revelation, is the

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ,"

then in that book....

Jesus said...

Revelation 2:6
Revelation 2:15



What does that word, Nicolaitans, refer to ?

'Nicolaitan', refers to those who [Nico] 'rule over' or 'conquer', and [the laity] 'the people'.

Jesus in Revelation, and, in the Gospels, said that he hated those hypocrites, who use the authority of 'religion' [turning religion into a 'beastly', false, worldly 'spirituality'], so as to rule over men.

Almost every religion of man does this.

Some religions [more than others] going to extreme lengths, to exert their authority over their adherents/devotees.


Matthew 20:25
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Popes???

'Papa'?


"....And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
"...But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
Matthew 23:1-13


What did Jesus say about how to worship God ?

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Matthew 6:5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.




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Again, people who want to know the truth about God, should take some time and try to read the bible.

For anyone unfamiliar with the bible, i would suggest they start by reading the Gospels, OR, the Psalms.

For me, probably the most beautiful book of the Bible, is the book of Psalms.

If you, with a clean and humble heart, search for God, God will reveal himself to you.



Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2  He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3  He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4  In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5  He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.


Hosea 4:1
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.


Jeremiah 9:3
And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
4  Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.
5  And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.
6  Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.



DEAF AND BLIND - lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Isaiah 6:9
And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10  Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.




The 'Knowledge of God' spoken of in Hosea 4:1, is the knowledge of God's righteousness.

But men are following their own prideful 'wisdom'.

In their very wickedness, men imagine that they are wise.

But all that we reveal, is our rebellion against God's righteousness.

Look at the wickedness in this world, today.

A wickedness most prevalent among mankind's highest echelons.

All, coming from man's prideful 'wisdom'.

Emma wrote on Jul 13^th, 2011 at 10:06pm:



Exactly so.

i.e.
Atheists [ <--- with a capital A] already know, everything which they need to know.

'Life is short, so lets party on.'






As i often say to atheists;

It is your life.

And life is about making our own choices.  [....and in that way, God is just, and clever]

And i know that you [and many like you] do not see [spiritual] redemption as important.

And i know that what you love, is what this world has to offer you.








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Proverbs 1:20
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21  She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
22  How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23  Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.



John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
....
21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

And

Just have to add -   this demanding of undying love and faith, before that love is returned,  could only come from a male zealot.  A TYPICAL male zealot.  You see them everyday on the news.

Definitely NOT good for the 'health' to believe in that!!!

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One could argue that the religious puffing up of the ego into eternity is the ultimate "me" lifestyle. To say you want "eternal life" and to "live after death" has to be egotism blown up into gigantic proportions. At least the atheist has the humility to say he won't live on.

Religious zealotry is really disguised egotism. They hide behind slogans like "god", "scripture", "Jesus", "Mohommad", "Jihad" to give the appearance of being a humble servant to a higher authority, yet this is only a mask to hide their domineering nature.

You shouldn't be ashamed, nor should anyone else, for wanting to dominate, Yadda. Embrace God's invention of Power!

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:


Yes, an astute observation. There also seems to be a discontinuity between evangelical Christianity and the humility of the more traditional Catholic and Anglican religions.
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It seems as though the tele-evangelists have a totally different religion inspired by Mammon. They shout their prayers loudly to all and sundry and deliberately seem to lose just about everything apart from the "born-again" angle.

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(Matthew 6:1).

also:
Quote:
(Matthew 6:5-6).

Are pious proclamations on Internet forums a bit like praying on street corners so that people can see them? I don't know. I leave the intricacy of a religion to its adherents.

Emma wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 9:49pm:



Time, jalane,

I apologise for my 'strident' ego.

Yes, i do have one.




Dear Father,
Please teach my heart your ways.
Please forgive my foolishness, my imaginings, my pride, and my vanity.