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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #285 - Dec 24^th, 2012 at 10:42pm Muso, I think that you are one of the most pathethic examples of rationalism that I have ever encountered. You tout yourself as a scientist, but you are a fake, and you know it. Honesty has no rhyme or reason to you, and that is a scientific proof. You need to aim. Then you may rise.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #286 - Dec 24^th, 2012 at 11:28pm When logic works against your "scientific reasoning", do you admit defeat or not? You were owned Muso, and you know it. But you will never admit to logic will you, you beast. You pathetic frikin beast. You should be the one to control all lies. That's all that you are good for. You are not a truth seeker at all.
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Reply #287 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 12:00am

Sitting on the fence with "Deism" hey?

Well your religious buddies will smite you for that.

Note- The alternatives are: Control with BS, be controlled by BS, or state the truth.

Which position do you attempt Muso?

From my position I can see that you are attempting to control with BS, but you've been owned by truth now BS artist!

How plead you?

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Reply #288 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 6:27am

Amadd wrote on Dec 25^th, 2012 at 12:00am:

Sitting on the fence with "Deism" hey?

Well your religious buddies will smite you for that.

Note- The alternatives are: Control with BS, be controlled by BS, or state the truth.

Which position do you attempt Muso?

From my position I can see that you are attempting to control with BS, but you've been owned by truth now BS artist!

How plead you?

Ouch! Well, when confronted with the concept of kaleidoscope shape- shifting god or gods, some of which look very much like "Nature", I can't honestly take the position that Nature doesn't exist. I think the position that NoN described earlier describes how I see Atheism.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

The arguing over the non-existence of 'god' is the terrain of the militant antitheist (or the antitheist) whose primary argument is against the influence that theism has on society. But, in doing so, he inevitably becomes entangled in the web of defining 'god', becoming ever more obsessed with what 'god' is (or isn't by antithesis) and, by that, inadvertently concedes (perversely) that 'god', in some way, exists.

That's bl00dy brilliant. Concisely put.

You know what non-artists say about Art? Well it's similar with Atheists. Atheists don't really understand God, but they know what they don't believe in when they see it. (shut up Spot and don't use the "Atheists just" phrase again. Don't interrupt me while I'm extrapolating) If I'm true to myself, I can't honestly take that position. It seems to carry too much anti-religious baggage, and I'm anything but anti-religious. I admire people who ask themselves the hard questions.

I think I can say with some degree of certainty that I don't believe in the classical Judeo Christian (Abrahamic) concept of a god. It just doesn't ring true.

Deism is something I find interesting, but I can't put my hand on my heart and confess to being a card-carrying Deist, even though nature is an amazing thing and it does have God-like properties.

I think I could probably identify with Religious Naturalism better than anything else. Do you really want me to go over RN again?

Not sure how you can "own" me on the basis of my personal belief any more than you can say "Hey! Your favourite colour is blue. I can see that you're lying" or "Hey! - you don't really take two spoons of sugar in your coffee!" (Say both with machismo to look as ridiculous as possible) Grin

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Reply #289 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 8:50am

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Ouch! Well, when confronted with the concept of kaleidoscope shape- shifting god or gods, some of which look very much like "Nature", I can't honestly take the position that Nature doesn't exist. I think the position that NoN described earlier describes how I see Atheism.

Ok your position is as an atheist to the religious.

Merry Xmas.

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Reply #290 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 9:09am

Amadd wrote on Dec 25^th, 2012 at 8:50am:

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Ouch! Well, when confronted with the concept of kaleidoscope shape- shifting god or gods, some of which look very much like "Nature", I can't honestly take the position that Nature doesn't exist. I think the position that NoN described earlier describes how I see Atheism.

Ok your position is as an atheist to the religious.

Merry Xmas.

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Reply #291 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:44pm

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 20th, 2012 at 6:32am:

The arguing over the non-existence of 'god' is the terrain of the militant antitheist (or the antitheist) whose primary argument is against the influence that theism has on society. But, in doing so, he inevitably becomes entangled in the web of defining 'god', becoming ever more obsessed with what 'god' is (or isn't by antithesis) and, by that, inadvertently concedes (perversely) that 'god', in some way, exists.

Umm...so where do all these militant atheists reside?

How many people have died in the name of "No God"?
It's all political idealism.

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Reply #292 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:03am

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I admire people who ask themselves the hard questions.

Are you asking yourself any hard questions Muso?
God or no God isn't a hard question because it's inconsequential to mortal beings.
Being a Deist means that you live day to day as if there is no God to answer to doesn't it?

A harder question may be: Are you really being honest with yourself here?

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Reply #293 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:01am

this will no doubt continue ad infinitum.....

I recall having some input to this topic before... Roll Eyes

Yawn.!! And still you go on........and on and on and on.... sigh Roll Eyes

Perhaps ,,, ,,, ??? it is possible to hold NO religious beliefs eh Amadd??
Well I can tell you - it is .
Do you ever think about that?
NO don't think so. As you are incapable, you cannot perceive of others that may have NO PLACE in their lives for RELIGION>

Its pretty difficult to avoid entanglement in religious dogma and opinion these days, .... NOT REALLY...!! it is easy to ignore ..for me... and I only get involved when someone somewhere calls my attention to it. It has NEVER been a relevant factor in my life. Unlike some other , sad, people I've met over the yrs.
you just don't get involved in stupid circular bullshxtting...

sorry Muso.....
I guess you must get a kick out of baiting these morons...

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #294 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 3:54am We all need a little persausian to extract the truth. I hope that I can rely on you too to extract my truth. It's pretty simple and easy when we comply to bring about a void to all lies.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #295 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 4:09am A void to lies must equal truth. Could that be so? That's why I say Hey Man Nice Shot. Atheism = truth. What a good shot man!
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #296 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 4:40am A failure to discover truth and reason is a waste of reason and intelligence.
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Reply #297 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:22am

Amadd wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:03am:

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I admire people who ask themselves the hard questions.

Are you asking yourself any hard questions Muso?
God or no God isn't a hard question because it's inconsequential to mortal beings.
Being a Deist means that you live day to day as if there is no God to answer to doesn't it?

A harder question may be: Are you really being honest with yourself here?

I'm being more honest than atheists, and probably more honest than theists.

The existence or non existence of god or gods (any god, pick a god) is something that cannot be resolved. It's therefore a waste of time spending a sizeable portion of your life on it.

On the other hand, you can define god as natural processes if you (really) have a need to do so. It does no harm. It also does no harm to show respect for those who see the world slightly differently.

I'm not proselytising. Please make your own decisions, but tell me what you disagree with in this site (if you want).

http://www.religiousnaturalism.org/
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Tenets of RN

As students and adherents of Religious Naturalism, we:

perceive value in all forms of being

Everything in existence has a function and is interconnected to and dependent on the rest of existence. We appreciation and revere this web of all phenomena and beings of which we are a part.

use science and reason to understand our being

Truth and meaning are obtained by free and responsible inquiry. We accept as truth the evidence substantiated by scientific methods and reject fundamentist versions of supernaturalism, superstition, and magical thinking. We are compatible with the concept of natural causality.

adhere to a shared scientific ethic:

We are an imaginative Big Tent community with the ethic to strive for consensus, but allow and even encourage diverse perceptions supported by rational thought and evidence that may lead to more open and enlightened insights........................................

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Reply #298 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:27am

Amadd wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:44pm:

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 20th, 2012 at 6:32am:

The arguing over the non-existence of 'god' is the terrain of the militant antitheist (or the antitheist) whose primary argument is against the influence that theism has on society. But, in doing so, he inevitably becomes entangled in the web of defining 'god', becoming ever more obsessed with what 'god' is (or isn't by antithesis) and, by that, inadvertently concedes (perversely) that 'god', in some way, exists.

Umm...so where do all these militant atheists reside?

How many people have died in the name of "No God"?
It's all political idealism.

Read carefully.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103841 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #299 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:33am Hi Muso, Have you ever had a good read of this website? http://www.evilbible.com/ It will put you off religion when you see what the Bible actually says.
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