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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #510 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

What I said:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Anyway, religion is evidently far more interesting and imaginatively fruitful in every way than atheism. There is nothing to discuss about atheism except its religious dimension.

What you've heard:

Grey wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

As far as life being uninteresting without the contribution of religion and the religious, rather the reverse is true. The unanswered question is a lot more interesting than the false answer.

A list of 'uninteresting' authors. -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_authors

N.B. My point is not that atheist authors are more interesting. It's that they're just as interesting; making it probable that in the absence of religion, life would remain just as interesting.

In your Eurocentric view Soren, religious morality is superior in every way to atheistic ethics. Maybe you could glean some idea of the atheist viewpoint by contemplating sharia law.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #511 - Mar 18^th, 2013 at 9:55pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 17^th, 2013 at 8:23pm: I think its safe to say that the ultimate question - the one we'd give all to know - (Why) is unanswerable. Learning to live with 'why'... To detach from it, is to learn how to 'answer' it. (Why is God stealing my socks?)
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #512 - Mar 19^th, 2013 at 12:24am

muso wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 17^th, 2013 at 8:23pm:

I think its safe to say that the ultimate question - the one we'd give all to know - (Why) is unanswerable.

Learning to live with 'why'... To detach from it, is to learn how to 'answer' it.

(Why is God stealing my socks?)

pssst... parenthesized... Juss... Leddit go, man...

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #513 - Mar 19^th, 2013 at 7:41am Why, why, why, Delilah SOB
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #514 - Mar 19^th, 2013 at 9:25am

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Soren - Anyway, religion is evidently far more interesting and imaginatively fruitful in every way than atheism. There is nothing to discuss about atheism except its religious dimension.

What would the world look like with the one true religion triumphant?

To quote another song, " Everybody want to go up to heaven, nobody want to die " - Peter Tosh

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #515 - Mar 19^th, 2013 at 11:47am The followers of Auguste Comte tried to found a church based on Positivism. There's still a church to this day in Brasil dedicated to it.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #516 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:39am Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2013 at 7:41am: Why, why, why, Delilah SOB Let it go. The wise never obsess about those why's.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #517 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 8:01pm muso wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 10:39am: Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2013 at 7:41am: Why, why, why, Delilah SOB Let it go. The wise never obsess about those why's. Go away troll. SOBiiii
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #518 - Mar 31^st, 2013 at 10:24am

Grey wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

As far as life being uninteresting without the contribution of religion and the religious, rather the reverse is true.

I don't think there's anything inherently interesting about atheism... There's really not much to talk about.

A bit like when, at 10 years old, we realised Santa Claus did not exist. We didn't form anti-Santa clubs or discuss our new world of anti-Santa-ism... We 'put away childish things' and moved on.

Our younger siblings, however, still enjoyed the magic.

The theatrics at the Vatican today, Easter Sunday... Well, we'd all have to admit its interesting if you're there.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #519 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 5:20pm True what they say... Judaism is a job for life... On Q&A tonight is Deborah Conway - Jewish Atheist.. Jewish Atheist?? What's that like? Vegetarian pizza with extra ham?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #520 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:51pm Jewish atheism is like all other atheism - debating in the glow of self-made electric light whether to believe or not to believe in the sun.
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Reply #521 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:24pm

An avid atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger."

The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, "What would you want to talk about?"

"Oh, I don't know," said the atheist. "How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly.

"Okay," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"

The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea." To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don't know sh1t?"

And then she went back to reading her book.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #522 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:29pm

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Jewish atheism is like all other atheism - debating in the glow of self-made electric light whether to believe or not to believe in the sun.

'whether to believe or not to believe in the sun'??

Not at all... More like debating whether or not its likely a cosmic entity is peddling a bike to drive a dynamo that powers the sun.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #523 - Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:36pm damien wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:24pm: To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don't know sh1t?" Was a strawman sitting in the third seat?
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damien Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #524 - Apr 2^nd, 2013 at 11:12am NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:36pm: damien wrote on Apr 1^st, 2013 at 9:24pm: To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don't know sh1t?" Was a strawman sitting in the third seat? Who said there was a third seat?
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