Lestat wrote on May 12^th, 2011 at 9:23am:


Les, wasn't it 'western interference' in the Islamic lands that lead to the ending of slavery there - at least in a nominal sense?

Lestat wrote on May 12^th, 2011 at 9:24am:


What makes you think I was trolling Islamic sites?

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Islam makes a distinction between Abrahamaic and non-Abrahamic religions. That is why I used the term paganism. Tell me Lestat, what is the proper islamic punishment for being a pagan?

Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:



Really? You truly believe this.

I didn't realise that their were still people that were this naive.

So those drones bombing villages in Afghanistan. That isn't deliberate?

Wow...you guys just have an excuse for everything don't you. Got it all worked out down pat.

Just about any attrocity can be justified. Yeah...we get it. 

Lestat wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 9:41am:


So what was it then?

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I'm just interested, that's all. You are making a far bigger deal of it than me. How about yuou just let Abu speak for himself? Do you think he needs your protection or something?

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No change. That's what I originally said.

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Failure to impliment Islamic law. Do you agree? All the examples you give are pretty far from Islam's historical centre.

What is the proper Islamic punishment for paganism?

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:


Are you capable of doing any research for yourself, or do you need everything spoon fed to you.

Besides, you wouldn't believe me anyway, so why ask.

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:


Yeah right...just interested.

Read my post again again....i'm not defending Abu at all. More making an observation about YOU. Its a sad individual that trolls message boards trying to get 'information' about a poster.

Seems you lead a rather sad existence.

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:


No it isn't. Didn't your mother teach you not to lie FD?

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:


Yet Islamic law was implemented in India for hundreds of years. So once again, history exposes your ignorance for what it is.

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 7:37pm:


You tell me FD? What is it?

Islam welcomes pagans into the fold, raises their status, and they flourish as muslims. Where they were once blind, they can now see.

As oppose to Christianity, which just wipes them out, their lives, thier culture and all.

As for you FD...seems you are still blind. I pity you!

Lestat wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 9:43am:





IMO, you are correct, Christianity has lost its relevance in Western society.
...though imo, the West, owes much in its early formative development, to the Judaeo-Christian religions.

But why has Christianity has lost its relevance in Western society ?

IMO, because Christians have [largely] stopped reading their scriptures.
[we have stopped being influenced by the ideas and concepts contained within our Bible]

In abandoning the message contained in their scriptures, most Christians have instead, been 'overcome', by their love for this world.




Whereas;
IMO, ISLAM has relevance in the moslem world, for exactly that same reason.

Allah promises to moslems the whole world [sex salves, and the property of others, as war booty], as a reward for fighting in his cause [to spread Allah's 'perfect' religion].

e.g.

"...Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward."
Koran 48.29


"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid [religious fighter] in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.046



So, live or die, Allah promises to moslems rewards on earth, or in Paradise, so long as they fight in his cause [to spread his 'perfect' religion].




In fighting for Allah, Allah promises, ON EARTH, to moslem men war booty [including sex slaves], and all that their little hearts could desire.

And for those ISLAMIC warriors who die fighting the Jihad, there is the promise of a 'heavenly bordello', where moslem men can continuously deflower virgins, and drink from rivers of wine, as rewards in their paradise.

"A similitude of the Garden which those who keep their duty (to Allah) are promised: Therein are rivers of water unpolluted, and rivers of milk whereof the flavour changeth not, and rivers of wine delicious to the drinkers, and rivers of clear-run honey; therein for them is every kind of fruit, with pardon from their Lord."
Koran 48.29

This is the promised reward of good moslems.

Even though moslems KNOW, that on earth, illicit sex is punishable by death, and that drinking alcohol is not permitted to moslems.

Lestat says....
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Christians are pagans ???

Christians worship a trinity of three God's ???


Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9  Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:...."


1 Corinthians 1:22
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.



...barking Yadda.

Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:14pm:



Allah bless benevolent moslem overlords, i know that i do, every day.

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/pakistan-christian-student-kidnapped-forced-to...


Allah Akbar!




http://thereligionofpeace.com/




Moslems like Karnal are liars, DO NOT BELIEVE THEIR WORDS.

Moslems like Karnal tell you things which they wish you to believe.

These moslems are history revisionists, ALL MOSLEMS ARE.
[i.e. moslem ALWAYS rewrite history 'after the fact', erasing anything which would show ISLAM/moslems in a bad light.]

All moslem tell us how wonderful it would have been, in past ages, to have been conquered non-moslem peoples, living with the blessing of being ruled by benevolent moslem overlords.









DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD OF WHAT MOSLEMS TELL YOU...

...LOOK AT WHAT MOSLEMS AROUND THE WORLD DO, EVERYDAY.

BELIEVE THAT!


http://thereligionofpeace.com/





LIES...
"....and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses.
"What cause can we have not to believe in Allah and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?"  "
Koran 5:82-84


TRUTH...
Google;
christians muslims persecuted