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Re: Defining evil
Reply #30 - May 8th, 2011 at 2:02am
 
thats actually amusing Jasign. Grin

Before defining Evil, we have to decide - does it exist? As a separate perceptible interactive force?

Is Evil something? Is Evil anything?  Is that anything?  (from 'Letterman') with my own additions.

From the (few) prior posts I've read -  it seems that Evil is entirely wrapped up in Religion.
Evil backwards is Live   God backwards is Dog -  So???????????

So - its easy - Evil is  not open for definition - it doesn't exist -  except in the hearts and minds of the superstitious and religious.  The Universe doesn't give a F n Continental about you or me - and  people create their own misery. Easier to blame it on God or the Devil!?
Allah or ?? the Anti-Christ???
Please  - People are evil, with a small 'e' - using the word in a purely descriptive way.

OK so maybe I have a description -  People = Evil.
Like that? Smiley

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Reply #31 - May 8th, 2011 at 3:38am
 
Evil can be 'defined', imo, as the absence of the spirit of God.



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e.g.

Q.
Can light and darkness, exist together?

A.
Light and darkness, cannot exist together.
Light will drive away the darkness.
Or, the darkness will try to extinguish the light.
But they cannot co-exist.

It is an impossibility.

Light and darkness, and, goodness and wickedness.
They are separate, and by definition, they cannot co-exist.



And the wicked cannot 'see' God, because the spirit of God will not [cannot!] 'touch' them.

Why not?
Our God is Holy.
And God will not 'touch' those, who refuse to separate the good, from the evil.
And God will not 'touch' those, who refuse to discern between good, and evil.



IMO, the purpose of this life, is so that we can [individually] demonstrate, plainly, if we want to live in the light, or if we want to live in the darkness.

Sadly, much of mankind will choose the darkness [i believe].

The selfish nature of the wicked, compels them [to remain in rebellion against the 'essence' of what God is].

Truth and light, and love.





John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Defining evil
Reply #32 - May 8th, 2011 at 6:26am
 
Amazing... I have been watching this thread and three pages in, no one has considered what the dictionary has to say on the nature of evil. Why?  

Evil is defined as an intentional act of immorality which causes suffering and harm. So evil has three qualities... it must be intended... it must be immoral... it must have negative consequences of harm and/or suffering.

This narrows the focus of evil upon those with the capacity to understand morality and immorality at the time of the action. If you lack that ability to understand morality/immorality and intend an act which causes harm... you are not evil... most likely you are an animal hunting or a human who is mentally impaired either through age, genetics or insanity.

If a child of three shoots his brother dead... it is not evil because the child is mentally impaired due to age.
If a schizophrenic woman in the midst of an episode goes on a shooting spree... it is not evil because the woman is mentally impaired due to temporary insanity.
If a profoundly down syndrome man strangles another in a fit of rage... it is not evil because the man is mentally impaired due to genetics.  

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Re: Defining evil
Reply #33 - May 8th, 2011 at 7:41am
 
A disturbance in the force Tongue
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Reply #34 - May 8th, 2011 at 4:32pm
 
evil the word = palendrome opposite number unto live

the harmonic frequency is the polar opposite unto that which may

be interpreted as LOVE

EVOL

with forgiveness for confusions beloved ones,

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Reply #35 - May 8th, 2011 at 4:34pm
 
A.
Light and darkness, cannot exist together.
Light will drive away the darkness.
Or, the darkness will try to extinguish the light.
But they cannot co-exist.

It is an impossibility.

__________

well i am here to announce they can will and do exist as you are living

through the paradigm at this very moment

in the 3rd dimension yes it is the order of things as it were

and so it is

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Reply #36 - May 8th, 2011 at 4:35pm
 
IMO, the purpose of this life, is so that we can [individually] demonstrate, plainly, if we want to live in the light, or if we want to live in the darkness.

____________

fact

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Reply #37 - May 8th, 2011 at 5:33pm
 
IMO, the purpose of this life, is so that we can [individually] demonstrate, plainly, if we want to live in the light, or if we want to live in the darkness.

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Now that I agree with, mostly, ..but we are not demonstrating to an almighty with the power to banish us to Hell....  re-incarnation is a nifty idea which connects with your philosophy  Light, but doesn't with Christianity. Can't be reborn if you are in Heaven or Hell - altho no doubt there is some writings somewhere which resolve this to the satisfaction of some.

I can't help but go with  re-incarnation over the other. I'm an atheist, as I've said before, - and I'll add that there is a spark in all of us - of the 'divine' if you want to put it that way. I'd say - more than this .    Inside -  not out there somewhere.
I think we have probably all come across people who are kind and good, and aren't religious.

So its not about an identifiable Evil  as in an entity -  except for those who believe in God. The early priests must have found it easier to explain the idea of evil to the folk of the land by giving it a name, thereby creating a very handy tool to hold over the heads of the folk, to control and rob them, all in the name of ....  Now that is an act of evil!.  Cry Tongue
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Reply #38 - May 8th, 2011 at 7:20pm
 
and I'll add that there is a spark in all of us - of the 'divine' if you want to put it that way.

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by your own admission,beloved one

you are no atheist

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Reply #39 - May 8th, 2011 at 7:23pm
 
So its not about an identifiable Evil  as in an entity

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evil if you will,is a manifestation of thought through harmonics

sacred geometry

as above,so below

and so it is

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Reply #40 - May 8th, 2011 at 7:54pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 8th, 2011 at 3:38am:
Evil can be 'defined', imo, as the absence of the spirit of God.



+++

e.g.

Q.
Can light and darkness, exist together?

A.
Light and darkness, cannot exist together.
Light will drive away the darkness.
Or, the darkness will try to extinguish the light.
But they cannot co-exist.

It is an impossibility.

Light and darkness, and, goodness and wickedness.
They are separate, and by definition, they cannot co-exist.



And the wicked cannot 'see' God, because the spirit of God will not [cannot!] 'touch' them.

Why not?
Our God is Holy.
And God will not 'touch' those, who refuse to separate the good, from the evil.
And God will not 'touch' those, who refuse to discern between good, and evil.



IMO, the purpose of this life, is so that we can [individually] demonstrate, plainly, if we want to live in the light, or if we want to live in the darkness.

Sadly, much of mankind will choose the darkness [i believe].

The selfish nature of the wicked, compels them [to remain in rebellion against the 'essence' of what God is].

Truth and light, and love.





John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.






One can't exist without the other. Morals needs other morals, or a lack of morals, to compare themselves against. Good and evil, or good and bad, work in a dialectical relation; constantly playing off each other.
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Reply #41 - May 8th, 2011 at 9:19pm
 
One can't exist without the other.

____________

this is 3rd dimensional rationale'

and thinking yes and totally understandable and expected yes

however

in the higher dimensions there is only LOVE and LIGHT

no evil can exist there beloved ones

and so it is

so be it

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Reply #42 - May 8th, 2011 at 9:20pm
 
"One can't exist without the other. Morals needs other morals, or a lack of morals, to compare themselves against. Good and evil, or good and bad, work in a dialectical relation; constantly playing off each other. "


"as above, so below"     I can add "what goes up must come down"  Smiley

And so it is all about balance, neh? Why rant against the Dark, when the Light could not exist without it? These concepts we are all so eager to promote are really human attempts at taming the 'world', the Earth, and its multitudinous fecundity. Foolhardy.
She is never our enemy - unless we make her so.
Pretending that the minutiae of human bickering is cosmic and demands we understand!. Talk about lost in the wilderness.

One looks into the Abyss  ........

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Reply #43 - May 8th, 2011 at 9:25pm
 
"as above, so below"     I can add "what goes up must come down"

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in context as above

planets going around stars/suns

these traversing around galaxies galaxies traversing around universes

universes traversing around omniverse and cosmosi

[that is in fact the as above part],the macro cosmos

electrons going around the nuclei the micro [below]

and here,

"Why rant against the Dark, when the Light could not exist without it?"

this is the physical universe and not aplicable to the higher dimensions

this is totally understandable you would be in a state of confusion upon

such matters and with forgiveness concerning individual interpretations

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Reply #44 - May 8th, 2011 at 9:29pm
 
further at the micro level

1.6 X 10 to the -35th meter

all points of matter lose locality

that is

they become omni present

this is the void abyss you speaketh upon with ignorance

upon the relevence and factual context of matter

with forgiveness unto confusions and no judgement beloved

mear observational validations

i LOVE you and honour the LIGHT that dwelleth within you

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