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Young Girl lashed to death.
May 8^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

Have a read about the latest Sharia law incident
where a 14 year old girl was lashed to death.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.h...

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Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.

Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.

Hena dropped after 70.

Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5461 Gender:	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #1 - May 8^th, 2011 at 12:33pm Another salutary lesson in proper behaviour from the religion of peace.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106588 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #2 - May 8^th, 2011 at 12:38pm Belgarion wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 12:33pm: Another salutary lesson in proper behaviour from the religion of peace. She was under age : therefore it was rape under our law. Why didn't they lash the man? Sharia law is ridiculous & Abu supports it? Let's see what Abu has to say about this one.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #3 - May 8^th, 2011 at 12:52pm As sharia law is not vigilantism, this topic makes very little sense.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106588 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #4 - May 8^th, 2011 at 12:59pm abu_rashid wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 12:52pm: As sharia law is not vigilantism, this topic makes very little sense. Quote: Aklima feared reprisal for having spoken out against the Imam and the village elders. An Iman ordered the lashings, therefore it was Sharia law.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #5 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:27pm bobby, "imam" merely means someone who leads prayers. Some days at my local masjid I am "imam"... it means nothing, as Islam has no such thing as a clergy. These people are backwards ignorant uneducated vigilantes, and nothing more. They should be arrested and executed for murder, case closed, and THAT is sharia.
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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #6 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:34pm These people are backwards ignorant uneducated vigilantes, and nothing more. They should be arrested and executed for murder, case closed, and THAT is sharia. YOU GOT THAT RIGHT YOU CAN DELETE ME AS MANY TIMES AS YOU LIKE
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:52pm Fred, if you say sensible things, like your last post, you shall not be deleted. I hold no grudges against anyone, just against rude and unwarranted slander.
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Re: Young Girl lashed to death.
Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:54pm

abu_rashid wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

bobby, "imam" merely means someone who leads prayers. Some days at my local masjid I am "imam"... it means nothing, as Islam has no such thing as a clergy.

These people are backwards ignorant uneducated vigilantes, and nothing more. They should be arrested and executed for murder, case closed, and THAT is sharia.

I understand now -
you can have an educated lashing of a 14 year old girl or
an uneducated lashing of a 14 year old girl.

Both can cause death but the former is o.k.?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #9 - May 8^th, 2011 at 2:29pm Bobby, clearly you're going to go out of this conversation the same way you came into it, blinkers on. Nothing I say here can change that, so i'm not even going to bother.
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #10 - May 8^th, 2011 at 2:44pm Are you saying that people, particularly women, are never executed or flogged under Sharia law Abu? You were right to delete my previous post Abu. To imply the executioners had a mental condition was wrong of me.
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Reply #11 - May 8^th, 2011 at 4:23pm

Grey wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 2:44pm:

Are you saying that people, particularly women, are never executed or flogged under Sharia law Abu? You were right to delete my previous post Abu. To imply the executioners had a mental condition was wrong of me.

I have trapped Abu.
He says that he supports Sharia law yet rejects the
lashing of a 14 year old girl to death which can happen under Sharia Law.
Abu can't have it both ways.

Abu is full of contradictions - another one:
He has sympathy for Osama being executed but rejects terrorism.

Once again he wants it both ways &
he says that I have blinkers on.

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Reply #12 - May 8^th, 2011 at 4:35pm

Grey,

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Are you saying that people, particularly women, are never executed or flogged under Sharia law Abu?

Where did I say that? I see why you're trying to equate any act of physical punishment with shari'ah, because it's about as good as your argument is going to get....

This rationale is about as relevant as saying that if an American executes a shoplifter in his store, then he's acting according to Democratic/American law, since it can prescribe the death penalty for armed robbers.

Absolute nonsense.

Bobby,

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He says that he supports Sharia law yet rejects the
lashing of a 14 year old girl to death which can happen under Sharia Law.

As above. So you believe in the Australian/Democratic practice of imprisoning those who break the law? Therefore you must support if someone captures somebody they believe has broken the law and chains them up in their cellar, since that's what Australian/Democratic law prescribes right?

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Abu is full of contradictions - another one:
He has sympathy for Osama being executed but rejects terrorism.

As I don't believe he's a terrorist. In fact he was a staunch defender of innocents against the grand scale terrorism of the West.

Anyway, regarding the defective reasoning that any kind of vigilantism must equate to shari'ah law, this topic has been discussed on this board at great length, I'd advise you to read over the large number of threads where it's been refuted over and over again. Just search for "honour murder" and you're bound to find plenty of refutations of it.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106588 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Young Girl lashed to death. Reply #13 - May 8^th, 2011 at 4:39pm Ok Abu, Do you support Sharia law which can have a 14 year old girl lashed? How does organising 9/11 not equate to terrorism? Surely that must be terrorism & not a defender of innocents .
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Reply #14 - May 8^th, 2011 at 4:45pm

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Do you support Sharia law which can have a 14 year old girl lashed?

What a preposterous question.

Do you support Australian law where a 14 yo. can be imprisoned???

I support law that brings justice and morality to society, a few village elders whipping a girl does not equate to that.

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How does organising 9/11 not equate to terrorism?

He has only ever denied doing it, and now he's been summarily executed there'll never be any chance to find that out will there?

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Surely that must be terrorism & not a defender of innocents .

Are all the bombings of Muslim civilians by the West also terrorism?

Come on lets be up front here, do you believe Howard, Bush, Obama, Blair, Gillard etc. are terrorists for ordering operations that have resulted in countless civilian deaths?

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