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May 13th, 2011 at 8:49am
 
It's what you do that counts.
Your actions.


that preferential for you ?
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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am
 
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2011 at 10:23am
 
There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

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this is an illusionary representation of the 3rd dimensional reality

[which is in fact illusionary in itself ]

further

we are all equal there are no superiors as it were

this is a reflection upon your understandings and your false

projection and assupmtions of your place in this dimension

with forgiveness and no judgenment upon you beloved

namaste

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Reply #3 - May 13th, 2011 at 10:39am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am:
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.


Do I detect support for limiting the rights of those you deem inferior Time?   If so you have such luminaries as Winston Churchill, Frankiln Roosevelt and Charles Darwin on your side.
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Reply #4 - May 13th, 2011 at 11:32am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am:
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.




In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority.

'Democracy' works in the same fashion.

i.e.
The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view.



Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ???


e.g.
If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says....

"I believe that the world is shaped like an orange."


...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ???

Why so ???

Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #5 - May 13th, 2011 at 12:28pm
 
Belgarion wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 10:39am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am:
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.


Do I detect support for limiting the rights of those you deem inferior Time?   If so you have such luminaries as Winston Churchill, Frankiln Roosevelt and Charles Darwin on your side.



The same argument can be inverted. The weak and dumb are limiting the rights of the strong and intelligent. This is done through approaches like "equality for all", "equal oppotunity", "equal outcome", affirmative action programs etc. By trying to make everyone "equal", it merely brings down the intellectually and physically outgoing to the level of the weak and dumb.
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Reply #6 - May 13th, 2011 at 12:32pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 11:32am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am:
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.




In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority.

'Democracy' works in the same fashion.

i.e.
The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view.



Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ???


e.g.
If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says....

"I believe that the world is shaped like an orange."


...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ???

Why so ???

Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???





I did put intellectually and physically together for a reason. That they are embodied in the one person.
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Reply #7 - May 13th, 2011 at 1:40pm
 
[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1305240579/0#2 date=1305246184]There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

____________

this is an illusionary representation of the 3rd dimensional reality

[which is in fact illusionary in itself ]

further

we are all equal there are no superiors as it were

this is a reflection upon your understandings and your false

projection and assupmtions of your place in this dimension

with forgiveness and no judgenment upon you beloved

namaste

-:)[/quote]

We are all equal, Master. Some are more equal than others.

The types around here are all from a very low ViBrAtIoNaL frequency order. These false projection paradigms need to be forgiven and erased.
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Reply #8 - May 13th, 2011 at 2:56pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 11:32am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am:
Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.




In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority.

'Democracy' works in the same fashion.

i.e.
The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view.



Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ???


e.g.
If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says....

"I believe that the world is shaped like an orange."


...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ???

Why so ???

Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???




Ah, yes, but it isn't the majority who assert their will over the rest of us, it's a very small handful of influencers who hardly anyone knows about.

Population growth and immigration, for example, are pushed by property developers, retailers and people like Heather Riddout from the Business Council.

News Limited, through the Telegraph and Australian actively mobilizes protest against the carbon tax - and most Labor policies, really.

And need we mention the influence of Haliburton on US foreign policy?

Popular opinion does not just happen. A majority needs to be actively massaged, brought together and shaped. It constantly forms, fractures and regroups. Different groups emerge, rise and fall, and it has been this way - before mass communication even came into being.

It's just easier now - but tough too, as people constantly change their values and beliefs about the massagers. If we talked about majority opinion in the Arab world 3 years ago, for example, we'd be talking about something completely different to today.

Same in the US - majority opinion changed radically from 2003 to 2008, despite Fox News and the Pravda-style US majority massage machine.

There is a constant Doris Day/Rock Hudson seduction going on between us and the influencers, and, out of this, a majority emerges.


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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2011 at 12:21am
 
In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

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within this dimension attached to the linear time perspective and

spacetime continuum

that beloved one whom does think he/she is superior..

and stands over the weak..

this dear one will receive some home truths and cleansing so there

is no superiors

for we all have a turn,as it were being paupers and kings

being strong and infirmed though incarnation and to assist

the individual aspect of soul growth

do any deny this fact?

im interested

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Reply #10 - May 14th, 2011 at 12:33am
 
this can be called true  - given presence in the now.
action does speak louder than words

( we presume you postulate two types of people - the thinkers and the do-ers.)

so intellectual superiority ( so-called)   can be , but not necessarily always is, a survival trait.
If the intellect paralyses the body when faced with a charging rampant ..(name your monster) ???.. what good is it?

If the intellect leads to avoidance of conflict  .. that is good.  Non-action.

But words don't automatically indicate intellect.  Thats pretty obvious from multitudinous posts. Grin on this Board.

So- thats sort of the opposite of 'the pen is mightier than the sword'.
I'd suggest -  accept no absolutes. Huh

"In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority."   Yepp    .
thats known as MOB RULE.

the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ??? 

Don't be silly!! Of course not!!  Tht's just rule by Mob -  (undeniably arising from the power of populist propaganda.)

Ask someone what ETHICS are -  do they know the word???
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Reply #11 - May 14th, 2011 at 7:44pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2011 at 12:21am:
In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

______________

within this dimension attached to the linear time perspective and

spacetime continuum

that beloved one whom does think he/she is superior..

and stands over the weak..

this dear one will receive some home truths and cleansing so there

is no superiors

for we all have a turn,as it were being paupers and kings

being strong and infirmed though incarnation and to assist

the individual aspect of soul growth

do any deny this fact?

im interested

namaste


I would never deny or waver in the presence of mastery, Light.

Everything you say is correct - and more. The true masters are those who go unseen and unheard. As the Sufi proverb goes, the tree with the most fruit bows the lowest.

True masters never tell you what they know.



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Reply #12 - May 15th, 2011 at 2:16am
 
I like to believe that it's what you do that counts, rather than what you think.

"I think , therefore I am" , is also a very profound statement, and paradoxical to the above.

There's no getting away  from the fact that personal thoughts can/do influence actions to a certain extent.


Having just watched the movie "Inception" for the first time, it opens up a different realm of thinking for me. (ie: it implants an idea)

A marriage between the dream-world and the real world may often be a necessity.

Telling one what to dream is a non-dream. It is residing in the limbo-state..and this, the storyteller accentuates IMO.

It's not for another to dictate the dream; the dream will behold together with, and also irrespective of outside influences.
It's all about the dream. The movie is all about the dream.
It's the dream that matters.i








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Reply #13 - May 15th, 2011 at 1:57pm
 
Amadd wrote on May 15th, 2011 at 2:16am:

I like to believe that it's what you do that counts, rather than what you think.

"I think , therefore I am" , is also a very profound statement, and paradoxical to the above.

There's no getting away  from the fact that personal thoughts can/do influence actions to a certain extent.



Having just watched the movie "Inception" for the first time, it opens up a different realm of thinking for me. (ie: it implants an idea)

A marriage between the dream-world and the real world may often be a necessity.

Telling one what to dream is a non-dream. It is residing in the limbo-state..and this, the storyteller accentuates IMO.

It's not for another to dictate the dream; the dream will behold together with, and also irrespective of outside influences.
It's all about the dream. The movie is all about the dream.
It's the dream that matters.








What we believe [how we think], will always determine how we act [i believe].

And conversely, our actions in this world, must be, a reflection of what our underlying morals and beliefs are.



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I haven't seen Inception yet.




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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2011 at 7:57pm
 
True masters never tell you what they know.

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oh really?

i see you beloved master karnal repeating outdated

dogma

this inane concept helps humanity little/naught

why would a master say nothing and help no one?

ask the one selling the snakes oil

this does not effect LIGHT as it does manifest in no secrecy no.,

it is the vessel which does carry LOVE yes

and this is hidden not by a true master

and so it is

you may rewrite your belief system to that which resonates

within you now

does this comfort you beloved one?

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