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Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE
Reply #45 - May 16^th, 2011 at 1:50pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:48pm:

Agree.
Why is it my friends from the UK have to wait a period of 6 months to have their documents checked, police reports filled out, HIV tests, interviews at Australia house.

They are your friends. That's the problem. We deported you, you think we want any of your associates here too?

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Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE
Reply #46 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:15pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

they are the rules. you want to come to this country then you stand in line. it is that simple.

Do you physically stand, do you? For how long? Under all circumstances? What if your life was threatened in a detention centre? What if you were malnourished? What if your kids were mistreated? Too bad? You have to stand in the imaginary line?

I know you don't have the mindset because you live in a well developed country and have been bred to become rather narrow minded in your views. So it's ok.

your bleeding heart approach is no solution to the problem because there are 50million who want to settle here. and they cant for reasons that even you shoudl understand. there are limits and one of those limits is that you stand in line. and surely being a russian you woudl understand STANDING IN LINE.

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Reply #47 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

they are the rules. you want to come to this country then you stand in line. it is that simple.

Do you physically stand, do you? For how long? Under all circumstances? What if your life was threatened in a detention centre? What if you were malnourished? What if your kids were mistreated? Too bad? You have to stand in the imaginary line?

I know you don't have the mindset because you live in a well developed country and have been bred to become rather narrow minded in your views. So it's ok.

your bleeding heart approach is no solution to the problem because there are 50million who want to settle here. and they cant for reasons that even you shoudl understand. there are limits and one of those limits is that you stand in line. and surely being a russian you woudl understand STANDING IN LINE.

50 Million? Where did you get that figure? Talk about fear.

My point stands - placing a smokescreen in front of the problem doesn't solve it either.

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Reply #48 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:32pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

they are the rules. you want to come to this country then you stand in line. it is that simple.

Do you physically stand, do you? For how long? Under all circumstances? What if your life was threatened in a detention centre? What if you were malnourished? What if your kids were mistreated? Too bad? You have to stand in the imaginary line?

I know you don't have the mindset because you live in a well developed country and have been bred to become rather narrow minded in your views. So it's ok.

your bleeding heart approach is no solution to the problem because there are 50million who want to settle here. and they cant for reasons that even you shoudl understand. there are limits and one of those limits is that you stand in line. and surely being a russian you woudl understand STANDING IN LINE.

50 Million? Where did you get that figure? Talk about fear.

My point stands - placing a smokescreen in front of the problem doesn't solve it either.

behind the USA Australia is the number on destination for refugees of wheich there are 150million.

and i have no idea of what smokesxcreen you are talking about. it is YOU trying to build one. people smuggling KILLS people. Howards policies stopped it and saved lives while not stoppign the rate of refugees at all.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE
Reply #49 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

they are the rules. you want to come to this country then you stand in line. it is that simple.

Do you physically stand, do you? For how long? Under all circumstances? What if your life was threatened in a detention centre? What if you were malnourished? What if your kids were mistreated? Too bad? You have to stand in the imaginary line?

I know you don't have the mindset because you live in a well developed country and have been bred to become rather narrow minded in your views. So it's ok.

your bleeding heart approach is no solution to the problem because there are 50million who want to settle here. and they cant for reasons that even you shoudl understand. there are limits and one of those limits is that you stand in line. and surely being a russian you woudl understand STANDING IN LINE.

50 Million? Where did you get that figure? Talk about fear.

My point stands - placing a smokescreen in front of the problem doesn't solve it either.

behind the USA Australia is the number on destination for refugees of wheich there are 150million.

and i have no idea of what smokesxcreen you are talking about. it is YOU trying to build one. people smuggling KILLS people. Howards policies stopped it and saved lives while not stoppign the rate of refugees at all.

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Howard policies didn't stop people smuggling. Howard policies simply had people smuggling transfer to other destinations, and ensured that people remained in detention centres in such conditions that all the right are now crying about with regard to Malaysia.

And I'd like to see evidence of your claim Australia is the number one destination for refugees. Seriously, I haven't seen it.

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Reply #50 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:37pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

they are the rules. you want to come to this country then you stand in line. it is that simple.

Do you physically stand, do you? For how long? Under all circumstances? What if your life was threatened in a detention centre? What if you were malnourished? What if your kids were mistreated? Too bad? You have to stand in the imaginary line?

I know you don't have the mindset because you live in a well developed country and have been bred to become rather narrow minded in your views. So it's ok.

your bleeding heart approach is no solution to the problem because there are 50million who want to settle here. and they cant for reasons that even you shoudl understand. there are limits and one of those limits is that you stand in line. and surely being a russian you woudl understand STANDING IN LINE.

50 Million? Where did you get that figure? Talk about fear.

My point stands - placing a smokescreen in front of the problem doesn't solve it either.

behind the USA Australia is the number on destination for refugees of wheich there are 150million.

and i have no idea of what smokesxcreen you are talking about. it is YOU trying to build one. people smuggling KILLS people. Howards policies stopped it and saved lives while not stoppign the rate of refugees at all.

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Howard policies didn't stop people smuggling. Howard policies simply had people smuggling transfer to other destinations, and ensured that people remained in detention centres in such conditions that all the right are now crying about with regard to Malaysia.

And I'd like to see evidence of your claim Australia is the number one destination for refugees. Seriously, I haven't seen it.

A) it DID stop people smuggling xos they dont smuggle them to PNG or indonesia do they?

B) i said australia was the number TWO refugee destination after the USA.

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Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE
Reply #51 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 2:37pm:

A) it DID stop people smuggling xos they dont smuggle them to PNG or indonesia do they?

B) i said australia was the number TWO refugee destination after the USA.

a) No but they do send to the USA and Canada, which as you would hopefully realise, are much longer times at sea, in much harsher waters.

The fact remains that many people who get on boats are escapees from detention centres in Indonesia. So instead of targetting the issue of ill-treatment of refugees, Howard just wanted to play them as political pawns. Which, he successfully did.

b) Evidence, please!

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE Reply #52 - May 16^th, 2011 at 2:51pm Quote: behind the USA Australia is the number on destination for refugees Yea, if you disregard all of Europe and Canada as well as most of Africa, liar.
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Reply #53 - May 16^th, 2011 at 5:38pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 16^th, 2011 at 1:37pm:

Reminds me of the quote from the Polish President.

"Are you concerned at the exodus of Poles to the UK and Germany?"

"Not really. The people who leave are the sh*t Poles anyway so we're much better off without them. Let the English and Germans have them"

Grin

Mind you, this was the same guy who demanded Poland get some of Germany's votes at the EU meetings because the Germans murdered Poles in WWII.

I'm happy we deported you

"we"??

I have never been deported by Russia.

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Tony Bradshaw Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 348 Sydney Gender:	Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE Reply #54 - May 17^th, 2011 at 5:18pm Brown defies Labor on $40 carbon price 3:35PM UPDATED James Massola, Joe Kelly BOB Brown has challenged Labor to justify a carbon price below $40 as the Greens push for "complementary measures" to lift the effective rate. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/the-greens-say-the-carbon-tax-w...
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Reply #55 - May 17^th, 2011 at 6:18pm

Tony Bradshaw wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Brown defies Labor on $40 carbon price

3:35PM UPDATED James Massola, Joe Kelly

BOB Brown has challenged Labor to justify a carbon price below $40 as the Greens push for "complementary measures" to lift the effective rate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/the-greens-say-the-carbon-tax-w...

and now it starts... Wait for the bun fight. If Gillard gives the Greens what they want she will have civil war in her party. If she doesnt the Greens will vote against the carbon tax and all this wil be for nothing - just liek they did with the ETS.

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Maeve Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 304	Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE Reply #56 - May 18^th, 2011 at 8:44am http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/ Brown doesn't have a bloody clue - have a listen to Chris Uhlmann tie the idiot up in knots.
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Re: Greens are on the road to NOWHERE
Reply #57 - May 18^th, 2011 at 9:48am

longweekend58 wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 6:18pm:

Tony Bradshaw wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Brown defies Labor on $40 carbon price

3:35PM UPDATED James Massola, Joe Kelly

BOB Brown has challenged Labor to justify a carbon price below $40 as the Greens push for "complementary measures" to lift the effective rate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/the-greens-say-the-carbon-tax-w...

and now it starts... Wait for the bun fight. If Gillard gives the Greens what they want she will have civil war in her party. If she doesnt the Greens will vote against the carbon tax and all this wil be for nothing - just liek they did with the ETS.

he also doesnt want industry to get any compensation to help with the changes they are going to have to make... bye.bye refineries..just for starters followed by the steelworks..and all subsidaries.

but I guess booby has jobs lined up already.

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