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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #210 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:47pm suggesting?? idiotically ? - no - I admit your BS is over my head. But I do understand the point of the article. Do you? Oh spinner of nebulousness'ss'ss
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Re: The Soren Challenge
Reply #211 - Oct 26^th, 2011 at 10:06pm

'WHEN A CLIMATOLOGIST SAYS ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE IS OCCURING HE IS REALLY ONLY PROJECTING HIS AUTHORITARIAN PERSONALITY ONTO HIS WRITING. HE IS PROJECTING HIS DESIRES FOR PHALLOCRATIC GOVERNMANCE ONTO THE TEXT'. - Google

What??? You are saying this is an area dominated by males.? Imagine that. ! Gasp. And it's all only on paper.??
Now THAT would be good.
So THATs why it is all such a fcukpu.!!

Talk about sexism. Surely there are females involved, somewhere.
What about all the female scientists who can see the writing on the wall?.
Phallocentric??? I suppose it depends on your gender?
Nahh don't think so.

But you fella's are definitely in deep poo, -- by your own definition.
Time to think vaginally perhaps??

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Reply #212 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 8:10am

Emma wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 10:06pm:

'WHEN A CLIMATOLOGIST SAYS ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE IS OCCURING HE IS REALLY ONLY PROJECTING HIS AUTHORITARIAN PERSONALITY ONTO HIS WRITING. HE IS PROJECTING HIS DESIRES FOR PHALLOCRATIC GOVERNMANCE ONTO THE TEXT'. - Google

What??? You are saying this is an area dominated by males.? Imagine that. ! Gasp. And it's all only on paper.??
Now THAT would be good.
So THATs why it is all such a fcukpu.!!

Talk about sexism. Surely there are females involved, somewhere.
What about all the female scientists who can see the writing on the wall?.
Phallocentric??? I suppose it depends on your gender?
Nahh don't think so.

But you fella's are definitely in deep poo, -- by your own definition.
Time to think vaginally perhaps??

Is this what they call a vagina monologue? Amazing.

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Reply #213 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 8:37am

Soren wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Now don't be deliberately stupid. As even a 10 year old could tell, that Hamlet reference was to PB's post-structuralist joke. Or are you suggesting, idiotically, that climate science is grounded in post-structuralist philosophy and PB wasn't joking?

So in summary, focusing on an irrelevant unequivalent part of the analogy is "stupid" ? - Not something you'd ever do Soren. Tongue

How's the CO2 concentration in your can of coke today? Good job it's non toxic or it could cause a severe attack of global warming if you drink it.

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Reply #214 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:16am

muso wrote on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 8:37am:

Soren wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Now don't be deliberately stupid. As even a 10 year old could tell, that Hamlet reference was to PB's post-structuralist joke. Or are you suggesting, idiotically, that climate science is grounded in post-structuralist philosophy and PB wasn't joking?

So in summary, focusing on an irrelevant unequivalent part of the analogy is "stupid" ? - Not something you'd ever do Soren. Tongue

Correct. Not my kind of thing.

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How's the CO2 concentration in your can of coke today? Good job it's non toxic or it could cause a severe attack of global warming if you drink it.

Well, it has to be kept in the fridge otherwise it would get really warm. That demonstrates conclusively that the carbon dioxide residue that causes the bubbles also cause Coke warming. AGW is proven, the science is settled.

On the other hand:
http://www.quadrant.org.au/Intelligent%20Voters%20Guide.pdf

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Reply #215 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:21am

Soren wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:32pm:

Emma wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

re - You do not need to be a post-structuralist to KNOW that we do not fully or even well understand how the climate works.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Soren

This sort of gambit in argument - ie quoting this passage from 'Hamlet' - is part of the author attempting to 'get out of intellectual hot water' according to philosopher Stephen Law. From an interview in New Scientist June 2011" His latest book ...Believing Bullshit: How not to get sucked into an intellectual black hole."

Something people should look for if they want to 'avoid getting sucked into "intellectual black holes".

Now don't be deliberately stupid. As even a 10 year old could tell, that Hamlet reference was to PB's post-structuralist joke. Or are you suggesting, idiotically, that climate science is grounded in post-structuralist philosophy and PB wasn't joking?

Here's some free advice: reading articles in popular science magazines on how to spot BS is no substitute for thinking and positively useless without the ability to comprehend what you read.

Comprehend? My dear, dear fellow, that does sound a tad empirical. Are you sure you don't mean deconstruct?

We're organising a workshop at the Faculty of Pakistani Studies, old boy. I think you would find it most useful:

Resisting the Discursive Hegemony of Western Reason: Empiricism, Globalization and Cultural Imperialism.

One of the objectives is to provide skills in deconstructing the colonial scientific narratives implicit in fields such as climate science.

I'll post the dates soon. We'd love to have you!

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Reply #216 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:34am

Sorry, I am already booked for a lecture series by the Postcolonial Feminism stream of The Stockton Postcolonial Studies Project, 2010-2011.

http://wp.stockton.edu/postcolonialstudies/digitizing-postcolonial-feminism/

Maybe next year. May I suggest, perhaps, a theme of 'Fighting western oppression even as your sh!t ("Brown and Proud!) squishes between your toes - contradictions and challenges for the post-colonial Pakistani plumbing supplies community'.

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Reply #217 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 11:20am

A marvellous suggestion, old boy. Can I refer you to our little chat in Extremism Exposed? I believe you would find it most stimulating. Retexualizing the body without organs: Deluze, coprophilia and queer resistance. Rewriting the gendered body in a post-colonial world. Stories from the front: Pakistan, the War On Terror, and the fetish of Western hegemony and post-Enlightenment faecal tropes.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #218 - Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:03pm eeeeeuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwww! Keep your excrement between your own ears - in whatever forum you were discussing same. You might like a wallow - I don't mind putting in a toe - But the smell ? No Just , like,....GO.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #219 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 8:55am This is what happens when you have a forum of people who just come on here to tease others. Turn your back and the place goes to sh1t.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #220 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 10:41am Muso, whaddaya reckon: http://www.quadrant.org.au/Intelligent%20Voters%20Guide.pdf
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #221 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 2:57pm Soren wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 10:41am: Muso, whaddaya reckon: http://www.quadrant.org.au/Intelligent%20Voters%20Guide.pdf What do I reckon? I think it has a great deal in common with Karnal's post-Enlightenment faecal tropes. The intelligently engineered whitewash experiment more like it.
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Reply #222 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 8:19pm

'This is what happens when you have a forum of people who just come on here to tease others. Turn your back and the place goes to sh1t.' - Muso

Haha Muso - this is true - I think!??
As a literal being, and given it's placement, I have to wonder? What do you mean Muso???

Enigmatic statements can be expected from me, Roll Eyes

But what do YOU mean Muso. U r the mod.

I confess to being a simpleton, compared to some, ..about some things ................are u dissing me??????
Or am I PARANOID?

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #223 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 8:21pm Have been told by many - types who know - I am too honest for my own good. What about you?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Soren Challenge Reply #224 - Oct 28^th, 2011 at 9:01pm Emma wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 8:21pm: Have been told by many - types who know - I am too honest for my own good. What about you? Hey, lady! This isn't RSVP.
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