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Reply #270 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:11am
 
Here is a reasonably good site that explains the basics of climate science in fairly simple terms without getting too simplistic, including such things as natural climate variation. The diagram showing the Earth's energy balance is probably one of the better ones I've seen.  The key point is that as soon as you upset that balance, less energy is re-emitted to space with a number of consequences. More energy in the system leads to warming and other numerous other means for that extra energy to be dissipated including more extreme weather events.

http://know.climateofconcern.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=article&id=12...

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Reply #271 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am
 
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Reply #272 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am
 
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.
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Reply #273 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.

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Reply #274 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:43pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.



It is certainly an art you've mastered, old boy. It's a general rule of thumb: the more certain your posts are, the more questionable. Whenever your posts contain never ever ever, we know you're playing dixie through your colostomy hole.

It's deconstruction 101, dear - a prerequisite for the more advanced courses in Pakistani rhetoric.
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Reply #275 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:46pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


Ahh, no... The art of being certain requires vigilant awareness of one's ignorance.

To make it easier for you... unawareness of one's ignorance breeds 'certainty'... It doesn't foster the art of certainty.
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Reply #276 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:50pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:46pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


Ahh, no... The art of being certain requires vigilant awareness of one's ignorance.


The old boy's still working on this one. The faculty requires a distinction average in ignorance to get into Honours.
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Reply #277 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:40pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.



are you certain about that?

Which is better - to disagree with something of which you have practically no knowledge, or to agree with something that you are well versed in?

I am aware of where the major uncertainties are in climate science.  The question of carbon dioxide being a greenhouse gas has about the same level of certainty as the hour of sunrise tomorrow morning in any given geographical location where the sun is predicted to rise.  
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Reply #278 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:03pm
 
muso wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.



are you certain about that?

Which is better - to disagree with something of which you have practically no knowledge, or to agree with something that you are well versed in?

I am aware of where the major uncertainties are in climate science.  The question of carbon dioxide being a greenhouse gas has about the same level of certainty as the hour of sunrise tomorrow morning in any given geographical location where the sun is predicted to rise.  


True, but the old boy isn't having any of it. Now that's certainty.
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Reply #279 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:52pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:46pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


Ahh, no... The art of being certain requires vigilant awareness of one's ignorance.



Will you give us a list of what you are ignorant of or shall I?

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Reply #280 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:55pm
 
muso wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 8:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


 The question of carbon dioxide being a greenhouse gas has about the same level of certainty as the hour of sunrise tomorrow morning in any given geographical location where the sun is predicted to rise.  



You take me to be as stupid as you pretend to be, Mr Musician.

You leap effortlessly from CO2 as greenhouse gas to CO2 as cause of climate change.

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Reply #281 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:01pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:52pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:46pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


Ahh, no... The art of being certain requires vigilant awareness of one's ignorance.



Will you give us a list of what you are ignorant of or shall I?


Getting bitchy there, old man... Looks like its medication time. Grin
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Reply #282 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:04pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:43pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.



It is certainly an art you've mastered, old boy. It's a general rule of thumb: the more certain your posts are, the more questionable. Whenever your posts contain never ever ever, we know you're playing dixie through your colostomy hole.

It's deconstruction 101, dear - a prerequisite for the more advanced courses in Pakistani rhetoric.


Who knows what you are on about, but as you are a paki bvgger, we let you babble on. Rich tapestry, innit.  I for one would not want you to feel as if you were treated differently from any other stupid fvckwit just because you are a paki bvgger.
Carry on, you are self-disclosing more than you realise. Who knows> It may be therapeutic.



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Reply #283 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:15pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:04pm:
Who knows what you are on about, but as you are a paki bvgger, we let you babble on.

You think you call the shots around here, Soren? Delusions of grandeur - that'd be a form of ignorance, I reckon.

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Reply #284 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:16pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:01pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:52pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 7:46pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 2:46pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:33am:
barnaby joe wrote on Nov 5th, 2011 at 9:24am:

While ignorance breeds certainty.



Ah!  So that's how we arrive at conviction, the art of being certain.


Ahh, no... The art of being certain requires vigilant awareness of one's ignorance.



Will you give us a list of what you are ignorant of or shall I?


Getting bitchy there, old man... Looks like its medication time. Grin



I am asking if you have the measure of your own medicine, viz awareness of your own ignorance. Yet you are running like a little girl, sticking your tongue out.

Medication time?? Only a smacking idiot would come back with that, hoping that in the midst of all the grinning schoolyard bluster nobody would notice that he had no answer. Medication time indeed. What do you take for intellectual inadequacy? Curl up and regress to the time when you were 10?


ANyone who ask you a question you don't know what to do with gets the same pathetic 'medication' crap from you. No pat answer - medication time.

Makes you look really thick despite your ability to spell.



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