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And the preferred PM is Tony Abbott!!!
May 21st, 2011 at 9:41am
 
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/9489116/gillard-support-crashes-in-qld-poll/

Suck it up laborites!! You've been desperately clinging to the one measuer that Gillard was in front - preferred PM and now Abbott has her beaten in this one as well!!!

and when will Gillard be dumped and Rudd put back in??????
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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2011 at 9:43am
 
John Howard was PM for more than a decade - I can believe anything these days.
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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2011 at 9:45am
 
It`s not surprising thet even Abbott, is perferred PM, over Silly Girl.
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2011 at 9:47am
 
Well now it is official. Abbott has it over Gillard and labor in EVERY measure.

But the real question is will the knives come out qgain and stab Gillard in the back and replace her with Rudd?
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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2011 at 9:51am
 
Or Wendy?
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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2011 at 9:59am
 
Gillard is proving to be an outright disaster for Labor.

I do liken this to what I saw a number of years ago now in the UK.

John Major won the 1992 election in the UK against the odds at a time of economic turmoil and with a slender majority (21 in FPTTP is not much) and I recall many commentators saying this could be an error.

He was so hamstrung by those he relied on for support (he had to bend over backwards to get them to back him on Maastricht Treaty) and it ended up costing the Conservatives the election in 1997.

That win in 1992 was responsible for the Tories being in opposition for a decade. They only got back in 2010. 13 years later.

The situation here is much the same -

1) Labor have a leader who is held in little respect and seen by many to not hold morals or beliefs and will do/backflip on anything to stay in power

2) Labor is polling shockingly since doing a deal to stay in with no majority

3) They ditched an elected PM - people haven't forgotten that.

4) They are trying to impose on us a tax that they promised not to. Forget this whole LIAR business, it shows a lack of morals and values.

This could really see Labor out of power for another decade like happened with Major.
Difference is Major came off the back of 13 years in power for Tories, Labor were only in power for one term.
That is the epitome of a failure of connection with the people.

They are without doubt, guilty of "performing to the front row".
Their tax may sound good to economically insulated luvvies and Greenies, thing is, they make up a tiny proportion of the population.
The Australian people are made up mainly of families with mortgages, children, jobs and cost of living.

She'll find this out to her cost.

Be it from Labor with itchy trigger fingers (you can poll in the low 30's for only so long) - or the electorate.

Either way Labor is gone for this next election - but for how many more.

We could have Australia with 100% Liberal State Governments and a Federal one too.

Obviously, in my mind, that is a good thing.
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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:09am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 21st, 2011 at 9:59am:
Gillard is proving to be an outright disaster for Labor.

I do liken this to what I saw a number of years ago now in the UK.

John Major won the 1992 election in the UK against the odds at a time of economic turmoil and with a slender majority (21 in FPTTP is not much) and I recall many commentators saying this could be an error.

He was so hamstrung by those he relied on for support (he had to bend over backwards to get them to back him on Maastricht Treaty) and it ended up costing the Conservatives the election in 1997.

That win in 1992 was responsible for the Tories being in opposition for a decade. They only got back in 2010. 13 years later.

The situation here is much the same -

1) Labor have a leader who is held in little respect and seen by many to not hold morals or beliefs and will do/backflip on anything to stay in power

2) Labor is polling shockingly since doing a deal to stay in with no majority

3) They ditched an elected PM - people haven't forgotten that.

4) They are trying to impose on us a tax that they promised not to. Forget this whole LIAR business, it shows a lack of morals and values.

This could really see Labor out of power for another decade like happened with Major.
Difference is Major came off the back of 13 years in power for Tories, Labor were only in power for one term.
That is the epitome of a failure of connection with the people.

They are without doubt, guilty of "performing to the front row".
Their tax may sound good to economically insulated luvvies and Greenies, thing is, they make up a tiny proportion of the population.
The Australian people are made up mainly of families with mortgages, children, jobs and cost of living.

She'll find this out to her cost.

Be it from Labor with itchy trigger fingers (you can poll in the low 30's for only so long) - or the electorate.

Either way Labor is gone for this next election - but for how many more.

We could have Australia with 100% Liberal State Governments and a Federal one too.

Obviously, in my mind, that is a good thing.

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Here is the Vice-Chancellor of Durham university with all his widsom on what happens in England.

This is not England dickhead if you don't know this is Australia it is suppose to be the country of your birth.
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Re: And the preferred PM (in QLD) is Tony Abbott!!!
Reply #7 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:10am
 


LOL...keep both hands above the keyboard, Longy et al - it was a poll in a single State...


longweekend58 wrote on May 21st, 2011 at 9:41am:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/9489116/gillard-support-crashes-in-qld-poll/

Suck it up laborites!! You've been desperately clinging to the one measuer that Gillard was in front - preferred PM and now Abbott has her beaten in this one as well!!!

and when will Gillard be dumped and Rudd put back in??????



http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/9489116/gillard-support-crashes-i...

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Gillard support crashes in Qld: poll

AAP May 21, 2011, 2:49 am

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's popularity has crashed in Queensland, where her predecessor Kevin Rudd is preferred as Labor leader, a poll shows.

Labor's primary vote has crashed to 28 per cent from 33.6 per cent at last year's election, a Galaxy poll conducted exclusively for The Courier-Mail has found.

The ALP would lose even more marginal seats if the results were repeated across the nation.

Ominously for the government, just 19 per cent of Queenslanders surveyed backed Ms Gillard to lead Labor.

By comparison Mr Rudd, who lives in Brisbane, was three times as popular, garnering 59 per cent support.

In other bad news for Ms Gillard, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott overtook her in the preferred prime minister stakes, adding 16 percentage points to lead 53 per cent to 47 per cent.

Ms Gillard's 19 per cent rating as Labor leader is a dramatic fall from the 33 per cent she attracted in February.

"Such is the popularity of Kevin Rudd in Queensland that there is consensus between Labor and LNP supporters, with both of the opinion that he is now the best choice to lead the federal Labor Party," Galaxy chief executive David Briggs said.

The May 10 budget has not helped Treasurer Wayne Swan's popularity either, with his support as a potential Labor leader falling to 9 per cent from 15 per cent in February.




Since when, has Queensland ever been a barometer for the preferences and voting intentions of the rest of the Australian electorate!?


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Re: And the preferred PM (in QLD) is Tony Abbott!!!
Reply #8 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:24am
 
Equitist wrote on May 21st, 2011 at 10:10am:
Since when, has Queensland ever been a barometer for the preferences and voting intentions of the rest of the Australian electorate!?





Well ask Buzz.
He blamed Labor's Federal majority wipe-out on the states of Queensland and NSW!!

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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:24am
 


Have some of you forgotten, that Queensland is the State where One Nation polled over 20% of the primary in a State election!?

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http://www.qhatlas.com.au/content/tale-two-elections-%E2%80%93-one-nation-and-po...


To view the graph properly, you'll need go to the link above and click on the image there...

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http://www.qhatlas.com.au/content/tale-two-elections-%E2%80%93-one-nation-and-po...



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A tale of two elections – One Nation and political protest

By: George Megalogenis

Pauline Hanson the candidate was less effective than the political protest movement she spawned.

Her only success, at the March 1996 federal election, pre-dated the formation of One Nation by a year. She recorded the largest swing against the Keating Labor government – 19.3 per cent – in the seat of Oxley, in south Brisbane. Each subsequent federal election she contested between 1998 and 2007 she lost. She also failed at the Queensland state election of 2009, and in New South Wales in 2003.

For all those rejections, she still looms large in the state and national story because she turned politics on its head between 1996 and 2001.

Ms Hanson’s maiden speech to parliament in September 1996 divided the nation into two shrill camps: those who thought she was speaking out on behalf of ordinary Australians and those who thought she was a racist.

She formed One Nation six months later, in March 1997, and the opening round of Newspoll surveys showed she had attracted votes from all parties.  The Liberal Party suffered the most, especially among men aged 50-plus who switched from the John Howard-led government to One Nation.

The rise of One Nation triggered a three-way shadow war between Liberal, National and Labor. The Liberals feared losing seats to Labor through One Nation preferences; the Nationals feared losing seats directly to One Nation.

The competition between Coalition and Labor would help reshape the Queensland and the Federal political landscapes. At the State level, Queensland turned centre left, to Peter Beattie’s Labor. But at the Federal level, Queensland stuck with John Howard’s Coalition.

Tactical responses - 1998 elections

Mr Beattie and Mr Howard differed in their tactical responses to One Nation. But each leader prevailed for the same basic reason: they beat Ms Hanson at their own game, politics.

One Nation’s ballot box debut at the Queensland State election in June 1998 was stunning. Rob Borbidge’s Coalition government had a one seat majority in the 89-member parliament and had the most at stake.  The National and Liberal parties advised their supporters to place One Nation ahead of Labor when allocating their preference votes. Labor, by contrast, placed One Nation last.

The Labor strategy had the advantage of mixing principle with pragmatism. It was a pitch calculated to move city-based conservatives who didn’t like One Nation into the Labor column. The Coalition had the more complicated operation. It was trying to retrieve conservative votes that went to One Nation via the back door of preferences.

The election result vindicated Labor, just. It held its number at 44 seats, while the Coalition lost 12 seats – 11 of which went to One Nation – to finish with 32. That left Labor one seat short of a majority, as it had been before the election. But Mr Beattie managed to form government with the support of one of the two independents.

One Nation pulled in a primary vote of 22.7 per cent. Labor calculated that 7 per cent came off its own base and another 14 per cent from the Coalition.

The message for the Howard government was there was no political benefit in courting One Nation preferences for the upcoming Federal election, which was held in September 1998. Mr Howard turned his campaign into a referendum on tax reform, denying Ms Hanson a platform on her favoured subjects of race and protectionism.

Mr Howard had initially been agnostic toward Ms Hanson. He didn’t want to offend her followers by attacking her directly. The 1998 Federal election was a near-death experience for the Coalition. It lost the popular vote to Labor after preferences by 49 per cent to 51 per cent, but was able to contain the swing against it in many suburban and regional electorates in New South Wales and Queensland to leave it with a comfortable majority.

One Nation collected 8.4 per cent of the primary votes for the House of Representatives in 1998, making it the third-most popular party after Labor and Liberal. Ms Hanson lost her bid for the new seat of Blair. Queensland was One Nation’s strongest state, where the vote was 14.4 per cent.

2001 elections

A relieved Mr Howard thought One Nation had been beaten. But the party re-emerged as an existential threat in 2001. Again the State election in February was held before the Federal poll in November. Again the Coalition sought preferences from One Nation. Only this time the result was a landslide to Labor. Mr Beattie’s government was returned with 66 of the 89 seats. One Nation was reduced from 11 seats to 3 and its primary vote collapsed from 22.7 per cent to 8.7 per cent. The Nationals were left with 12 seats (down 9) and the Liberals with 3 seats (down 6), while the remaining 5 seats went to independents (up 3).

Mr Howard took one look at the State result and decided he had to return One Nation primary votes to the Federal Coalition camp. The issue that helped deliver this ambition was border protection. At the 2001 Federal election, One Nation’s vote halved. It dropped by 4.3 per cent across Australia to just 4.1 per cent, and by 7.3 per cent in Queensland to 7.1 per cent.

Tellingly, the Liberal primary vote increased by almost the same amount that it fell for One Nation: 3.2 per cent nationally and 5.6 per cent in Queensland.


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I think that we could safely call the so-called 'Sunshine/Smart' State the 'Fickle State' - but, as this analysis suggests, Abbott's antics have created uncertainties and dissatisfaction across the nation...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/sunshine-state-cooling-on-julia...

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Sunshine State cooling on Julia Gillard: Newspoll

    * Dennis Shanahan, Political editor
    * From: The Australian
    * March 29, 2011 12:00AM

LABOR and Julia Gillard have suffered setbacks in the pivotal state of Queensland since the Prime Minister announced a carbon tax. The ALP's primary vote has dropped below its disastrous level at last August's election.

As the federal opposition claims Ms Gillard's carbon tax contributed to the devastating state Labor loss in NSW on Saturday, the Gillard government's biggest losses of support have been in Queensland in the past two months.

Since Ms Gillard announced her decision to "walk away" from her promise not to introduce a carbon tax and bring one in from July 1 next year, dissatisfaction with the Prime Minister has jumped by between three and 11 percentage points across the various states and age groups. Her greatest rise in dissatisfaction was in her home state of Victoria.

Satisfaction with Tony Abbott has dropped in all states while dissatisfaction with the Opposition Leader leapt by as much as 11 percentage points in South Australia.

It appears the past two months of bitter personal fighting between Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott over the proposed carbon tax has cost
both leaders
across-the-board losses in voter support.
Mr Abbott has accused the Prime Minister of being a liar for breaking an election promise and Ms Gillard has said Mr Abbott is an extremist after he attended an anti-carbon tax rally at Parliament House alongside various far-right organisations.

According to an analysis of Newspoll surveys taken last month and this month exclusively for The Australian, Labor's primary vote fell three points to 31 per cent in Queensland since the previous survey in October-December last year. This left Labor with a lower vote than the 33.6 per cent it gained at last year's election.

Queensland, the home state of former prime minister Kevin Rudd, who was dumped in June last year but is still polling ahead of Ms Gillard as preferred Labor leader, accounted for Labor's worst losses last year and holds the marginal seats the ALP must regain to ensure victory at the next election.


Dissatisfaction with Ms Gillard rose from 44 to 48 per cent in Queensland.

Support for her as preferred prime minister fell from 49 to 42 per cent.

Ms Gillard was accused of appearing "wooden" during the catastrophic floods in Queensland, was seen as less communicative than Queensland Premier Anna Bligh.

She has been unfavourably compared in the media with Mr Rudd on foreign policy in the past two months.

Queensland has overtaken Western Australia as Labor's "worst state" because the ALP's primary vote rose five points in the West to 35 per cent.

Voter dissatisfaction with
Mr Abbott rose in every state and among every age group
, with South Australia's satisfaction with him falling from 46 to 37 per cent and dissatisfaction rising 11 points to 51 per cent.

In Queensland, Mr Abbott's satisfaction fell three points to 40 per cent but this is now the Liberal leader's best state after a fall in his home state of NSW from 41 to 39 per cent.


As well, Mr Abbott's support lifted in Queensland from 33 to 36 per cent, compared with Ms Gillard's 42 per cent after a fall from 49 per cent.

Coalition primary support also rose in Queensland from 41 to 43 per cent and, on a two-party-preferred basis, the Coalition extended its lead from 52 to 48 per cent two months ago to 54 to 46 per cent.

In Western Australia, Mr Abbott and the Coalition have lost some support after a jump in Labor's primary vote from an election-level low of 30 per cent to 35 per cent at the end of March.

Ms Gillard's personal support also rose in the west.

Dissatisfaction with both leaders in their home states rose, with Mr Abbott's dissatisfaction level rising from 44 to 50 per cent in NSW and Ms Gillard's rising 11 points in Victoria to 41 per cent.

Ms Gillard remains preferred prime minister over Mr Abbott in all mainland states and with all demographic groups.

Yesterday, Ms Gillard said that what happened on the weekend in NSW was "a state election - it was participated in by the people of NSW and they delivered their verdict in that state election".

Mr Abbott said former NSW premier Kristina Keneally conceded that the "Labor Party have walked away from the Australian people and I think she's dead right".



I it is clear that electoral cynicism and distrust of pollies has grown exponentially since Abbott's ascension to Lib Leadership - and subsequent divisive and obstructive negativity...

I, for one, do not think that this is a good thing, for the nation's socio-economic stability and prosperity...

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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:51am
 
Its a shame for Tony Abbott that the next election is in 2013.
Its a bit like John Howards popularity plummeting when he introduced the GST but still had 2 yrs to another election..It was a waste of time and energy for the Labor Party gloating about that just as it is a waste of time and energy for the the ultra right movement to gloat about Abbotts popularity bought about by popularist slogans and fear campaigns.
Crikey..if its still the case in 2 yrs time I will worry about it then  Cheesy
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Reply #13 - May 21st, 2011 at 10:56am
 
Although I despise the current Labor Party and think a Lib govt would do a better job, wouldn't it be poetry if Gillard was ousted by Rudd and he gave HER the boot..!! Oh, fingers crossed please happen!
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2011 at 11:01am
 
Crikey..2 yrs is plenty of time for lung cancer from passive smoking to show up and prematurely end his life.
Just as it will with thousands of Aussies between now and then thanks to his support of the deadly tobacco industry.
Who knows what the next 2 yrs will bring ..hey he might even be knocked off his bike and killed by a driver having a seizure after discovering he has incurable lung disease bought on by contact with asbestos.
All of the above would be ironic..Im sure you would agree   Grin
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