God you're thick.

THE federal coalition's environment spokesman Greg Hunt has revealed it would put an effective price on carbon of about $15 a tonne- only $10 cheaper than what is expected under the government's proposed carbon tax.

He conceded the coalition's plan was to allow for a varying carbon price of up to $15 a tonne. It's estimated on that price taxes could rise to $720 a year for average households by 2020.

Unlike the government's compensation plans, the coalition's price on carbon would be passed on to consumers, the government said.

"We have set out the average cost of emissions, which we would allow for, and our program is $15 a tonne. The price for an individual sector may be high or low, but we will simply go to the market and purchase the lowest-cost emissions reduction," said Mr Hunt.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

We have time to wait as we have no choice. The next election will nut this little problem out. Atleast we will have a chance to make an informed decision on who to vote for as it will all be out on the table.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

Here is a better counter offer.

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"
I will let you guess who said that.

I have looked up the Liberal policy on carbon dioxide reduction. It is not a tax on everyone. It is market based (purchasing the cheapest 10%). Naturally, it would cost a tenth of the Government's scheme which is a tax on every tonne.


The third option is what the Coalition has called direct action, but what is more technically known as abatement purchasing. This primarily rests on incentives, not penalties. Rather than taxing all 10 tonnes of a firm's emissions simply to get them down to 9 tonnes, the government will directly buy back just 1 tonne from a firm. But it will do it through a market to find the lowest cost reductions.
So instead of having to raise $4.5bn in taxes across the entire economy to dampen emissions by 13 million tonnes (again Treasury's exact figures), the Coalition would target the cheapest 13 million tonnes of emissions reduction available in the country and buy them directly. We have allowed $300 million, for example, but the total cost would probably be $200m.
The government has tried to argue that abatement purchasing is somehow not a market. It is and it has a strong intellectual heritage in Australia and overseas.
In Australia, it is exactly how the ALP government buys back water licences by tendering for the lowest cost water from willing sellers. It is very close to how the NSW greenhouse gas abatement system operates and it is what Premier John Brumby is proposing in Victoria with a rumoured start date of October.
Abatement purchasing is also the heart of the UN's Clean Development Mechanism, but you won't hear that from the government.

http://www.liberal.org.au/Latest-News/Blog/2010/09/27/Cutting-Carbon--A-Third-Wa...

matty wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 3:11pm:

He must be lying again,do you have it in writing???????????? because he's also said you cant trust anything he says that is not in writing.  It will be 15 bucks a ton with NO COMPENSATION, look at the c@p.Why do you keep lying???????

skippy. wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

THE LAST SENTENCE IS WHAT HE USES AS EVIDENCE IT IS IN-FACT A MARKET BASED MECHANISM.

THIS WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS AS A TURNING POINT FOR THE LIBERAL PARTY!!!! 

THEY WON'T GET OUT OF THIS ONE WITH JULIA GILLARD AT THE HELM: SHE WILL MAKE TONY ABBOT PAY DEARLY!

IF RUDD WAS PRIME-MINISTER THERE WOULD BE BLOOD... IT WOULD BE BLOODSHED AND WE ALL KNOW IT!!! JULIA IS OF THE SAME DISPOSITION BUT RUDDY WAS ALL OVER PEOPLE LIKE A RASH--> HE WAS STELLAR MATERIAL AND THE HISTORY BOOKS WILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BUT THAT!!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1305806618

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Can you elaborate please Soren? Other than the carbon tax, there is nothing 'market based' at all about coalition policy, and all independent analyses I have seen of coalition policy put the cost per tonne as much higher than Labor's.

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Is a coalition government going to enter into a contract with me to switch my lights off more often? Or switch to products with a lower carbon footprint? Or fly less? Or live closer to work? This is what makes a lie of the coalition's claim of a 'market based' mechanism. It is anything but.