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Re: What's the Real truth?
Reply #15 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 11:54pm

stryder wrote on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 11:32pm:

Those questions DONT MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT ANYMORE COMPELLING,

ITS JUST YOUR SILLY SCAREMONGERING, THATS ALL LEFTIES LIKE YOU PERCEPTIONS HAVE,

Scare, frighten, spook, alarm people into submission.

ITS A LITTLE WONDER THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY IN THIS DEBATE WHEN ALL YOU CAN DO IS JUST SCAREMONGER. Grin

Apparently, you haven't read too many of my posts!

Otherwise, you would know that I'm fair & even handed, I think that Politicians on both sides (right & left), are full of -
Credible
Reliable
Abundant
Paradoxes

And, the answers to the following questions, must be scary, because you don't seem to want to address them.

1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

I wonder why?

Perhaps, it will come to you, if you swot up on it, for a while?

But, perhaps not, Soren has been swoting & sweating at it for some time and the little sweetie is no closer to being educated?

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Re: What's the Real truth?
Reply #16 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:04am

stryder wrote on Jun 1^st, 2011 at 11:52pm:

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What if what if. What are the costs to our children.

You see the Climate Change nazis CANT WIN THE CARBON TAX DEBATE BECAUSE AFTER MONTHS OF PROPAGANDA USING DUBIOUS AND VAGUE SCIENCE, THE MAJORITY OF THE AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE STILL DONT WANT THE CARBON TAX

So what do they do, use the last resort and scaremonger people into submission which looks like it will never work,

THANK GOD, PEOPLE ARE MORE INTELIGIENT THAN THESE CLIMATE CHANGE NAZIS.

As I said, apparently you have not read my posts or you would know that I do believe that a Carbon Tax should be implemented and nor should an ETS!

Instead of trying to lump me, into your perceptions, it may help if you actually looked (for a change), before leaping into action and as part of the process, try answering the questions, which are very straight forward.

1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

And, that invitation goes to anybody who THINKS they have an answer or two.

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Re: What's the Real truth?
Reply #17 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:09am

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Perhaps, it will come to you, if you swot up on it, for a while?

It seems to me Perceptions you dont even get it,

These 2 questions of yours are about what if, what if and what if , which makes it quite silly, when you read it ??

What we have here is global warming hysteria which is giving us an example of PROPAGANDA VS TRUTH

This Climate change nonsense is also helping politicians in there quest TO MASTERMIND SOCIETY.

What bugs me most of all is the arrogance of these climate change nazis THAT THEY THINK THEY KNOW WHATS BEST FOR EVERYONE.

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Reply #18 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:18am

1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) IF
b) IF
2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) IF
b) IF

And, that invitation goes to anybody who THINKS they have an answer or two.

Too many IF's

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: What's the Real truth? Reply #19 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:20am Speaking of if's Climate change catastrophe took just months (historical) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/earth-environment/article6917215.e...
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Re: What's the Real truth?
Reply #20 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:24am

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1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) IF
b) IF
2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) IF
b) IF

And, that invitation goes to anybody who THINKS they have an answer or two.

Too many IF's

That whats most stupid of all of what your saying, Perceptions.

THAT WE THROW AWAY MONEY, TAX PAYERS MONEY INTO THE WIND IN A CARBON TAX BASED ON A WHOLE SERIES OF IFS, IFS AND IFS.

So stupid when you think about it, but then again thats the mentality of the left.

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Reply #23 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 7:35am

Put simply, the crucial questions are very straight forward -
1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

a) The world would be better placed to provide sustainable energy supplies and would have moved to alternative fuels!!!

b) The world would be better placed to provide sustainable energy supplies and would have moved to alternative fuels!!!

2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

a) The world would be struggling to provide sustainable energy supplies where alternative fuels would be expensive and hard to resource....Our planet would be in real trouble!!!

b) The world would be struggling to provide sustainable energy supplies where alternative fuels would be expensive and hard to resource....Our planet would be in real trouble!!!

It makes no difference weather climate change is real or not.....fossil fuels are dwindling fast.....when supply becomes even more erratic the price will sky rocket.....We cannot afford to wait and hope cheap fuel will last forever!!!

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Re: What's the Real truth?
Reply #24 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 7:43am

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 7:35am:

Put simply, the crucial questions are very straight forward -
1) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on MY scenario that Climate Change is a reality and it turned out that my Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

a) The world would be better placed to provide sustainable energy supplies and would have moved to alternative fuels!!!

b) The world would be better placed to provide sustainable energy supplies and would have moved to alternative fuels!!!

2) What are the likely costs, benefits & losses involved, IF humanity were to proceed on the scenario that Climate Change is NOT a reality and it turned out that Climate Change scenario was -
a) Correct!
b) Incorrect!

a) The world would be struggling to provide sustainable energy supplies where alternative fuels would be expensive and hard to resource....Our planet would be in real trouble!!!

b) The world would be struggling to provide sustainable energy supplies where alternative fuels would be expensive and hard to resource....Our planet would be in real trouble!!!

It makes no difference weather climate change is real or not.....fossil fuels are dwindling fast.....when supply becomes even more erratic the price will sky rocket.....We cannot afford to wait and hope cheap fuel will last forever!!!

phil they have known about shrinking fossil fuel for ages... they have worked on that for ages..

we cant sell enough of our ore/coal overseas quick enough.. so I have no doubt we have enough to get by on for a few more years yet..

in fact with a recession stareing us in the face we are very very much hoping to sell more of our fossil ore overseas to keep our head about water.

so does it seem alright with you that we put the CARBON CRISIS GW on the backburner untill after a recession has passed???????????

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Reply #26 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:05am

It amazes me that in Australia climate change is seen as a left vs right argument. How did it ever get that way ?

The UK's conservative government just set very tight co2 targets.
NZ's conservative government recently introduced an ETS.
Fair few conservative governments in Europe brought in the ETS.

We had consensus with Howard, Turnbull, but Tony Abbott is just being a d1ckhead.

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Reply #27 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:07am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:05am:

It amazes me that in Australia climate change is seen as a left vs right argument. How did it ever get that way ?

The UK's conservative government just set very tight co2 targets.
NZ's conservative government recently introduced an ETS.
Fair few conservative governments in Europe brought in the ETS.

We had consensus with Howard, Turnbull, but Tony Abbott is just being a d1ckhead.

The 'why cant every just be mushrooms' argument.

The left are more vocal on CC and the extreme environmentalists are left, the greens are extreme left, gang green labor are just sellers of their sole. I guess that is why.

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Reply #28 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:15am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:05am:

It amazes me that in Australia climate change is seen as a left vs right argument. How did it ever get that way ?

The UK's conservative government just set very tight co2 targets.
NZ's conservative government recently introduced an ETS.
Fair few conservative governments in Europe brought in the ETS.

We had consensus with Howard, Turnbull, but Tony Abbott is just being a d1ckhead.

Abbott appeals to the extremist lowly educated in the community, the ones who can not decipher the difference between climate and weather, for example. Abbott is stupid enough to think there are votes in it for him, when in reality only a small percentage of Australians are as stupid as those climate change confusionalists posting here. The best thing for Australia will be the Libs dumping Abbott and a consensus reached between the two major parties, this will happen, and then the confusionalists will be without a voice and fade away into the never never along with their earth is flat ancestors.

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Reply #29 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:45am

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:07am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:05am:

It amazes me that in Australia climate change is seen as a left vs right argument. How did it ever get that way ?

The UK's conservative government just set very tight co2 targets.
NZ's conservative government recently introduced an ETS.
Fair few conservative governments in Europe brought in the ETS.

We had consensus with Howard, Turnbull, but Tony Abbott is just being a d1ckhead.

The 'why cant every just be mushrooms' argument.

The left are more vocal on CC and the extreme environmentalists are left, the greens are extreme left, gang green labor are just sellers of their sole. I guess that is why.

The Left are more vocal on Climate Change??????????
Now I know your delusional,
We on the "LEFT" are happy to take action, you don't hear us on the radio talking about "World Government, 0.04%,Great Big New Tax,etc etc, no it's you guys whatever you wish to call yourselves.
The vocal minority of skeptics/deniers are the ones creating headlines, the rest of us just wish the government would tell you to STFU & get on with it.

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