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Reply #330 - Oct 17th, 2011 at 8:09pm
 
Opinion: Bernard Hickey asks if John Key has a Plan B if peak oil, aging workforces and little technical progress create a growthless global economy.

It hasn't dawned on John Key, but the idea that growth in the developed world may have stalled for more than a year or two is now dawning on central bankers, economic thinkers and protestors around the world.  

The realisation that real and sustainable growth may not have happened in the developed world for the last 20 years is even more unsettling.

Here's the thinking. Oil production essentially peaked around a decade ago. Technical innovation has been stagnant for at least 20 years. Populations began ageing. This meant that per-capita growth in output was much slower than in the post-war years up to the 1970s.

See more here from Peter Thiel on The End of the Future.

Any growth that was produced was gobbled up by the richest 5 percent of the population as the financialisation of the economy shuffled more profits to banks, traders, executives and their shareholders. A relaxation of the Depression-era rules stopping investment banks from joining up with commercial banks, along with an increasing focus on rewarding executives many multiples of average incomes accelerated the surge of income to the top tiers.

This non-growth and the increasing inequality of incomes was essentially disguised, particularly for the middle classes in developed economies such as the UK, the US and New Zealand, by borrowing from the savings in export-rich economies such as China, Japan and Germany.

The debt crunch we are now seeing in Europe and America is essentially the moment of truth for this strategy. When debts grow faster than income this eventually ends in unserviceable debts. Greece and the Eurozone is trying to control that moment of truth right now and is failing.

The debt can't be sustained without some sort of debt jubilee, where debts are forgiven, or by a burst of inflation. Regular savers want a debt jubilee where bank shareholders and bond holders take the pain. Borrowers want inflation where regular savers take the pain.
They can destroy banks and their bondholders and shareholders by forcing them to forgive the now unsustainable debts.Or they can bail out the banks and shift the debt onto the balance sheets of taxpayers while encouraging inflation. This spreads and delays the debt problem, an eventually ends with sovereign credit rating downgrades and ultimately the bankruptcy of countries. That's what we're seeing now in Greece.

So far politicians in the United States, backed by their political funders in the banking sector, have chosen to bail out the banks and shift the burden to taxpayers generally while inflating away the value of money. This is fueling much of the anger and has created a monster moral hazard problem, along with banking monsters that are even more dangerous and too big to fail.



Unending strong growth in the developed world cannot be sustained. There isn't enough oil, young workers and technical innovation to sustain it.

So what is New Zealand's Plan B?

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The Truth is, I doubt that any of the Politicians or Central Bankers, have any Plan B!
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Reply #331 - Oct 23rd, 2011 at 11:25am
 
Will a failing euro trash our future?

Laurie Oakes
The Daily Telegraph October 22, 2011

THE noises coming out of Europe are ominous. Australians should sit up and take notice.

"If there isn't a solution by Sunday, everything is going to collapse,"said French President Nicolas Sarkozy before dashing to Frankfurt for emergency talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"If the euro fails then Europe fails,"
said Merkel. Although she added hopefully: "We will not let that happen."

The German economy is sliding towards recession. British ministers are openly discussing the likelihood of a double dip recession there.

In an article I read yesterday on the European situation the words "careering towards the economics of the Great Depression" leapt off the page.

And in Canberra on Thursday Treasury boss Martin Parkinson warned bluntly that Australia would be hit hard if Europe's leaders failed to resolve the crisis.

Europe - to quote Sarkozy again - "has a rendezvous with its history".

The summit has three jobs. It has to come up with a solution to the dire situation in Greece, where debt default is imminent, more tough austerity measures are in train, and street violence and strikes suggest a society in a state of near-insurrection.


Task No.2 is to beef up the European Financial Stability Facility massively so that, if Spain and Italy get into the same kind of trouble as Greece, there will be a fund big enough to deal with it.

And, finally, the leaders are being called on to recapitalise Europe's banks, having failed to clean things up after the Global Financial Crisis.

He added: "The bigger risk to the Australian economy, though, would be if Europe failed to deliver a comprehensive response to the sovereign debt crisis and found itself in the situation where basically it was dragging the rest of the world into a second global recession."

In that situation China, which sends about 20 per cent of its exports to Europe and about the same to the US, would be seriously affected, magnifying the Australian impact.


That would mean damage to growth, jobs and the Budget bottom line. So, even for Australia, the Brussels summit is a big deal, and economic experts in Canberra say there is no guarantee it will deliver.

French and German leaders started their Frankfurt talks in serious disagreement on how radical the package needs to be. Sarkozy wants to go further than Merkel does. Germans are said be be suffering from "bailout fatigue".

We'd better keep our fingers crossed. Expectations are so high that, if European leaders are perceived to fall short again, there's a major risk financial markets will spiral down.

It could all get pretty grim, especially given the deadlock between US President Barack Obama and a Republican Congress over America's own revival measures.

The Australian economy has grown by 6 per cent since the GFC, whereas the US and all major industrial economies in Europe are still smaller than they were when that crisis hit.

And, as Parkinson pointed out to the Senate committee, Australia's 7 per cent debt position compares with a figure in the 90 per cent band in the rest of the developed world.

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I think you will find, the main Criteria for success today, would be for another headline grabbing news story that does plenty of talking, but achieves nothing!


Why? Because all the Politicians have been doing, for quite some time is kicking the can a little further down the road!

The Politicians know they can not solve the "problem", because the major Economic factors can not simply be switched on & off instantly and the current alignment of Macro Economic factors are nearly all negative. They (the Pollies) are purely restricted to "political spin", as their sole weapon of defense & attach, to try to deflect events, long enough, so history doesn't record a major collapse starting on their watch.

Well, bully for them, WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL BEAR THE REAL TRUTH!  

So, whatever does or doesn't happen today, it may or may not cause problems on Global markets, but in the long run, WE ARE THE ONES BEING SET UP TO PAY THE TAB!


Btw, whilst Australia's Debt position is considerably better than most other countries, it isn't quite the rosy 7% suggested in this article.
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Reply #332 - Oct 23rd, 2011 at 12:26pm
 
France and Germany ready to agree €2tn euro rescue fund


France and Germany have reached agreement to boost the eurozone's rescue fund to €2tn (£1.75tn) as part of a "comprehensive plan" to resolve the sovereign debt crisis, which this weekend's summit should endorse, EU diplomats said.

The growing confidence that a deal can be struck at this Sunday's crisis summit came amid signs of market pressure on France following the warning by the ratings agency Moody's that it might review the country's coveted AAA rating because of the cost of bailing out its banks and other members of the eurozone. The leaders of France and Germany hope to agree a deal that will assuage market uncertainties or, worse, volatility, in the run-up to the G20 summit in Cannes early next month.

France would now have to pay more than a percentage point – 114 basis points – over the price paid by Germany to borrow for 10 years as the gap between the two country's bond yields widened to their highest level since 1992.

The news cheered US investors. All the major stock markets surged, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average rising 250 points, or 2.2%, to 11,651, after earlier falling by 101 points earlier in the day.

Berlin had dampened down prospects of a full-scale deal, although EU diplomats close to the talks say the Franco-German agreement covers boosting the financial firewalls for eurozone members to withstand the threat of a "credit event" or sovereign debt default in weaker countries.

This takes two forms. First, the main bailout fund, the European financial stability facility, will be given additional levers enabling it to offer first-loss guarantees for bondholders, be they private or public. Senior diplomats say this will deliver a fivefold increase in the fund's firepower – giving it more than €2tn compared with the current €440bn lending capability. The EFSF will in effect become an insurer, thereby overcoming European Central Bank resistance to the idea of turning into a bank.

Second, Berlin and Paris have agreed that Europe's banks should be recapitalised to meet the 9% capital ratio that the European Banking Authority is demanding after its re-examination of the exposure levels of 60 to 70 "systemic" banks. The EBA has marked these exposures much closer to current market values.

Berlin and Paris are also said by those close to the negotiations to be edging nearer to agreeing on the increased scale of private sector involvement in the second rescue package (€109bn) for Greece. This was set at a voluntary 21% "haircut" in the July package but, under worsening overall economic conditions and a likely restructuring of Greek debt, Germany has been pushing for losses of up to 50%. France, backed by the ECB, has resisted the idea, while EU officials have clearly indicated that a range of 30 to 50% is being considered.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/18/france-and-germany-move-towards-2...
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This story reminds me of a scene from one of the Superman movies.

Lois Lane falls off a building and Superman, on seeing this, flies up & catches Lois, then says, "don't worry Lois, I've got you"!
Lois then looks down and says, "You've got me, BUT WHO'S GOT YOU?
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Reply #333 - Oct 26th, 2011 at 10:50pm
 
The population crash will kill our economy – good news for the planet


As the world's population reaches 7 billion this month, there is renewed soul-searching about overpopulation. But in much of the rich world, we have slammed on the demographic brakes so hard that it may be helping drive our current economic tailspin.

Exhibit A is Japan.
Economists say the developed world is entering now what Japan first experienced back in the 1990s, when it suffered a "lost decade" of economic stagnation from which it has never recovered.

Japan has the world's oldest people – average female life expectancy is 86 years – and it has among the world's lowest fertility rates. At just 1.2 children per woman, it has not much more than half what it needs to maintain population numbers. Meanwhile, the average age is well over 40, and one in four people are over 65.

This is an extraordinary turn-round. Japan used to be young. When it was the poster child of Asia's economies, it profited from a huge population of young adults, and not many old dependents. Result: the land of the rising sun has become the land of the setting sun.

And where Japan went, so goes the rest of the world. Europe's emerging economic basketcase is Silvio Berlusconi's Italy. Population changes have undoubtedly played a role in this. Thanks to a generation of ultra-low fertility, the last western European country with a prime minister born before the second world war now has the world's second oldest population.

The economic whirlwind of growth in other Asian tiger economies is blowing out as fertility falls and populations age. China is today young and vibrant, but the one-child policy is shutting down population growth. Within a decade, its numbers may be falling and China will have the largest ageing population the world has ever seen. Boom may soon turn to bust.

The Middle East is at an earlier stage on this demographic road. But with falling birth rates, many countries there have a bulge of young adults in their population pyramid. Governments have failed to harness this demographic potential for economic growth, but arguably those young adults drove Muslim radicalism, and now the Arab spring.

The people on the streets in Egypt, Tunisia and Syria demanding democratic reform – and manning the ragtag army in Libya – would a generation ago have been at home minding the children. Whether driving economic growth or demanding democracy, young adults are dynamic forces for change in any society. But as societies age, that dynamism dies.

And ageing is the new way of the world. You wouldn't guess it from the public debate so far about the seven billion landmark, but the average woman in the world today has half as many children as her mother or grandmother did 40 years ago: 2.5 children, compared to five. And the number keeps on going down. Dozens of countries are already below two, including Iran, Burma, Vietnam, China of course – and much of southern India, too.

In the long run, that's not enough to keep up numbers. Many expect world peak population by mid-century, and decline thereafter. Whether it happens then or later, mass global ageing is now a certainty.

I suspect that the global economic binge of the 20th century was a product of a booming, youthful population. It will die as we age. Japan's lost decade, and its likely repetition now across the western world, is perhaps the first sign. About time too. We all know that we cannot go on as we have. The planet cannot stand it. The party is over.

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Population Growth, it has been THE Economic driving force of history, but in particular, the last 200 years.

Around the year 1800, the Global Population hit 1 Billion,  it hit 2 Billion around 1930 and now, only some 80 years later, it is about to tip over at 7 Billion.

This massive & unprecedented Growth in Global Population has been enabled, largely by 3 major factors -
1) Cheap Energy - that being Fossil Fuels, predominantly Oil.
2) Innovation/Tecechnology - Humanity has undergone massive change, to keep up with our Population Growth.
3) Climate - A largely benign Global climate, over the last 200 years, has aided new Technology/Innovation & Cheap Energy, in ensuring that Food Production & the availability of fresh water, has kept up with the Global Population Growth.   

However Japan has led the way, showing what happens as Population Growth starts to decline, although they were partially supported by Global Growth, which was still continuing.

That Global Growth is now also slowing & is most likely to Peak around 2030, which is earlier than generally expected.

That said, it really can't happen quick enough, because the total Population Demand on all Products is now starting to reach tipping points, where Supply of various Products are starting plateau, before going into permanent decline.

Oil & other Fossil Fuels, are prime examples of this Peaking process and we have already witnessed huge Price swings & impacts on the Global Economy, arising from Peak Oil. 

The Truth is, it is a law of nature that everything has limits and we are now very close to finding out what some of those limits are and what that will mean to the Global & OZ Economy!
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Reply #334 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:02pm
 
Absolutely Nothing!


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Reply #335 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 10:59am
 
Watch out for China’s ‘freak’ economy


BOSTON (MarketWatch) — Forget Greece. Forget Italy. Forget “Occupy Wall Street.”

The really ominous news right now?

China.


It’s been the juggernaut carrying us all year. But Albert Edwards at SG Securities says the world’s second biggest economy is a “freak” and it’s starting to go berzerk.

Bad news.

What’s going wrong? How? Here are some troubling signs:

The housing bubble is finally bursting.

And we know how that story ends. Think: America, Ireland and half the West since about 2005. Think of Japan after 1990. Think of…well, every housing bubble in history.

The aftermath of a burst bubble is unmitigated disaster. That’s because housing affects everybody — middle-class families, developers, banks, local government. It’s the Spanish flu epidemic of real estate bubbles. There’s no containing it.

The bubble has been as big as any we’ve seen.

Massive high-rise real estate projects have erupted across the country in recent years. Visitors tell stories of giant, empty condo buildings — “ghost” cities. Prices in the major cities have skyrocketed. And newly middle-class investors have piled in.

They’ve never seen a housing bust. They assumed it will go on forever.

Ten years ago, homes in Shanghai sold for about six times an average family’s income. Today that’s 13 times. Shenzhen has gone from five times to 14 times. These are off-the-charts absurd ratios. This is a bona fide mania.

And it works fine until the music stops.


Where are we now?

Prices have started falling. Now, fewer than 46 of 70 major cities saw prices stall or decline in September, reports the National Statistical Bureau. As recently as January the number was just 10.

Analysts at DBS Vickers Securities say developers are now slashing prices to move unsold inventory, and they see a lot more to come in the next few months.

The credit bubble is imploding.

What would a housing bust be without a credit bust? This will be the mother of all implosions, too.

In the past two and a half years, China has witnessed a staggering credit bubble. Total lending has come to about $7.8 trillion.

To put this in context, that is twice the entire net government debts of the European so-called “PIIGS” — the troubled countries of Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain — put together.


An alarming report from Schroders said Chinese banking operates in a “twilight zone” of phony accounting and shadow money and it’s all coming apart. “Almost half of all credit creation in China is off balance sheet,” wrote the team at Schroders.

They think this situation could unravel “over the next three to six months,” producing a huge crisis with international implications. Most Chinese banks, they predict, will end up as “zombie banks.”

The canary in the coal mine might be the boom city of Wenzhou in the south. On a single day last month, nine company bosses all suddenly went on the lam to avoid bankruptcy. Nine on one day.

The stock market is signaling trouble.


It’s a mistake to assume the stock market is always correct, but generally speaking when it signals a downturn it does so pretty clearly.

And what it’s saying about China is alarming.

Chinese stock prices have slumped by 22% since July, says FactSet.

Albert Edwards at SG Securities warned that China’s long-running investment boom has no precedent and is bound to burst. “China is a ‘freak’ economy,” he wrote. “To my knowledge no other economy in history has experienced such high investment/GDP ratios and seen so many sequential years of strong investment growth.” The Asian tigers in the 1990s? Japan? Nothing comes close, says Edwards.

That boom has helped carry the world economy through the troubles of the past five years. What happens if it, too, ends?


Don’t ask.

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http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/zs=000001.SS&t=6m&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-AU&region=AU


All may not be what it seems, in the land of the great Global Economic saviours?

That said, can I suggest the Truth is, that similar applies elsewhere and what we really have now, is a giant game of "MUSICAL CHAIRS"?

LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN THE MUSIC STOPS?  
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Reply #336 - Nov 14th, 2011 at 5:52pm
 
Great threat of China, economist John Hewson warns


ECONOMIST John Hewson, architect of the GST, has predicted the world faces economic gloom for possibly more than a decade.

Dr Hewson, who led the federal Liberal Party in the 1990s after having worked as an economist for the Reserve Bank of Australia, the International Monetary Fund and Treasury, also warned that Australia's heavy reliance on the Chinese economy was unhealthy.

"It doesn't make good governance at all to be so deeply in debt to China," he said.

"Our minerals boom can evaporate and in any case that boom is not of much benefit to the economy generally."

Dr Hewson said "profits from mining are largely going offshore and are not staying onshore".

"One day, China will stop paying high prices for commodities, like Japan and Korea did before them."


He recommended Australia "diversify to other parts of the world, such as the Arab world".

On global economic volatility, Dr Hewson said he had never seen a "more uncertain set of factors before".

"I believe we are in for a fairly difficult period for the next five or 10 or more years," he said at an Australia Arab Chamber of Commerce and Industry function in Melbourne last Friday night.

"The chances of a credit squeeze like the one in 2008 is not high, but there is a risk of one," Dr Hewson said, describing the current global volatility as worse than the Depression of the 1930s.

For Australia, he forecast "very flat economic growth for a decade or two" and a real chance that the European banking sector's problems could land Down Under.

"It's a systemic problem and it can spread internationally, and that is where Australian banks can hit the wall."

He said the spiralling sovereign debt crisis had led to people losing confidence in governments' ability to deal with major issues.

"The failure of governments at all levels, whether it is the bureaucrats or politicians, has diminished their ability to govern in their own right," Dr Hewson said.

"That is why you see unity and coalition governments springing up everywhere, from the UK to Australia and this week in Greece, with Italy being next."

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Hewson, like another former Liberal leader (Malcolm Fraser), is now a little "on the nose", with some current Liberals & their supporters!

Whilst not agreeing with all of his comments, I would suggest it would be unwise for OZ to rely too much on Mining & too much on China!

Hewson also goes part way, by describing the current global volatility as worse than the Depression of the 1930s.

But, in my opinion, the Truth is that Hewson falls short and thereby does the OZ POublic a dis-service, by not saying that the Macro factors, which are currently directing the future of the Global & the local (OZ) Economy, are likely to result in a hard landing, sometime, in the not too distant future!
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Reply #337 - Nov 14th, 2011 at 6:01pm
 
I agree with his comment re the economy flat-lining for a decade or two, there just is no room for growth anywhere. Growth is over, but listen to our pollies about concentrating on a growing economy....they don't get it. Free trade agreement to grow the economy, grow, grow, grow, no, no, no.
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