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Maeve Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 304	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #15 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:41pm watch this if you dare !!!!! http://www.globalwarmingglobalgovernance.com/glb_wrm_glb_gov.htm
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Reply #16 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:42pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 11:55am:

I vote we increase the drinking limit to 0.07. After all, what's an extra 0.02 to our blood stream? It's a statistical error.

You come up with some pretty dumb examples. Where is the 97% of alcohol coming from if the person isnt drinking that much.

Once again the point is beyond you. What a surprise.

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Reply #17 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:43pm

Ill spell it out for you elavine.

The best analogy is to look at a dam. But this dam we are still not sure how much it can hold. Historically, we have had 10 times or more water than we thought was its peak, with no flooding overflow, but we think it can only hold another 50%

We have 1000 river inflows, but we have only calculated 10 of the inflows to give us an assumption of what the total inflow is (undersea valcanoes in particular).

One particular river is a problem because its inflow is 3% of the total

Bearing in mind, you dont actually know the inflows of 990 rivers, yet you are concern about 1 that is 3% of the total.

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Reply #18 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:45pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:43pm:

Ill spell it out for you elavine.

The best analogy is to look at a dam. But this dam we are still not sure how much it can hold. Historically, we have had 10 times or more water than we thought was its peak, with no flooding overflow.

We have 1000 river inflows, but we have only calculated 10 of the inflows to give us an assumption of what the total inflow is.

One particular river is a problem because its inflow is 3% of the total

Bearing in mind, you dont actually know the inflows of 990 rivers, yet you are concern about 1 that is 3% of the total.

Actually dams are built with an understanding of what their maximum storage capacity is, before an overflow. And that 3% can very much cause the overflow. But nice try

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Reply #19 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:46pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:45pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:43pm:

Ill spell it out for you elavine.

The best analogy is to look at a dam. But this dam we are still not sure how much it can hold. Historically, we have had 10 times or more water than we thought was its peak, with no flooding overflow.

We have 1000 river inflows, but we have only calculated 10 of the inflows to give us an assumption of what the total inflow is.

One particular river is a problem because its inflow is 3% of the total

Bearing in mind, you dont actually know the inflows of 990 rivers, yet you are concern about 1 that is 3% of the total.

Actually dams are built with an understanding of what their maximum storage capacity is. But nice try

der dumb as a door knob

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Reply #20 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:47pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:46pm:

Actually dams are built with an understanding of what their maximum storage capacity is. But nice try

der dumb as a door knob [/quote]

You gave a stupid analogy, I explained why it was stupid

Maxium storage capacity can be overflowed by the slightest of inflows - even 3%. And if we can prevent it, then shouldn't we?

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #21 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:47pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:47pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:46pm: Actually dams are built with an understanding of what their maximum storage capacity is. But nice try der dumb as a door knob Look for the word "but this dam"
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #22 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:51pm progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:47pm: Look for the word "but this dam" Silly, that's more than one word
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #23 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:56pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:51pm: progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:47pm: Look for the word "but this dam" Silly, that's more than one word Silly me, too complicated for you. Ill wait for someone with a bit more smarts. Thanks for trying though.
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Reply #24 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:58pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:56pm:

Silly me, too complicated for you. Ill wait for someone with a bit more smarts. Thanks for trying though.

But I ask you once again how we can possibly build a dam that we won't know the capacity of? Poor engineering?

The fact is we know capacities, and we determine them - which is what the scientists did. And they have said even the 0.00004 or 0.0006 or whatever it is you spur constantly is breaching on that capacity, and we need to do something about it, where we can. If that happens to be the 3%, then do it. Like with alcohol in the blood stream, every tiny bit can have an affect.

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Reply #25 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 1:03pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:58pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 12:56pm:

Silly me, too complicated for you. Ill wait for someone with a bit more smarts. Thanks for trying though.

But I ask you once again how we can possibly build a dam that we won't know the capacity of? Poor engineering?

The fact is we know capacities, and we determine them - which is what the scientists did. And they have said even the 0.00004 or 0.0006 or whatever it is you spur constantly is breaching on that capacity, and we need to do something about it, where we can. If that happens to be the 3%, then do it. Like with alcohol in the blood stream, every tiny bit can have an affect.

The scientist cant tell you why there was 10 x more CO2 in the air in history, yet the climate was relatively the same. BTW, the dam is an analogy, not a construction.

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Reply #26 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 1:09pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

The scientist cant tell you why there was 10 x more CO2 in the air in history, yet the climate was relatively the same. BTW, the dam is an analogy, not a construction.

And it was a poor analogy that didn't serve its purpose. And with the same token, Allan Jones can't predict inaction based on his view of percentages, and I'd rather trust those that can.

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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #27 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 1:38pm I just finished trying to wade through the OP, a more emotive, unsubstantiated, pack of distortion and lies, isn`t often encountered.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #28 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 1:46pm Why do people always make up things to try to discredit Alan? HJe is fair dinkum, honest and a good man. I listen to him every morning.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Jones lies about climate Reply #29 - Jun 2^nd, 2011 at 2:04pm Not only is the 3% human output a statistically insignificant number to the 97% of total CO2, CO2 is only 9 - 26% of the total green house effect. So 3% of total CO2 of the 9 - 26% overall green house effect, becomes even more insignificant.
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