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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #225 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:48pm
 
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:34pm:
Actually Luke, he is just new, and probably did not realise I was a mod, and would have the ability to delete his post, which provided his "parody" of my post, as a direct quote from mozzaok.
I think the fact that his post was deleted seemed draconian to him, hence the nazi slur, but I think we can cut him some slack, and let him find his feet here, before we get too upset about things.
He may surprise us, and only be a nitwit about denialism, because the sad fact is the denialist PR machine has conned quite a few good folk, who have pretty sound thinking on other issues, we will have to see what unfolds.



I think you will be disappointed. I've read a few of the other comments he has made.

Quick, you better ban me because I don't conform to your way of thinking.

Isn't that the way your kind deals with dissenting views?


Hilarious.

No, I would rather just point out how much of a simpleton you are, hence the previous post.

Try to keep up.
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #226 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:49pm
 
Climate Change science is an Observational Science at best

Whereas the Sodium example can be readily tested and re-tested
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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number
 
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #227 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:52pm
 
Climate scientists are the chiropractors of the field
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #228 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:53pm
 
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:34pm:
Actually Luke, he is just new, and probably did not realise I was a mod, and would have the ability to delete his post, which provided his "parody" of my post, as a direct quote from mozzaok.
I think the fact that his post was deleted seemed draconian to him, hence the nazi slur, but I think we can cut him some slack, and let him find his feet here, before we get too upset about things.
He may surprise us, and only be a nitwit about denialism, because the sad fact is the denialist PR machine has conned quite a few good folk, who have pretty sound thinking on other issues, we will have to see what unfolds.



I think you will be disappointed. I've read a few of the other comments he has made.

Quick, you better ban me because I don't conform to your way of thinking.

Isn't that the way your kind deals with dissenting views?

*edit* PS I have made 8 posts and already you are hunting me down Luke. Why is that?



Plenty of different views here
It seems your only banned for being a abusive prick continously
You have plenty of allies here sprouting the same stuff.
Don't expect it to go unchallenged though
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #229 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:56pm
 
The example this so called Professor Grubb shows the grubbiness of the climate change spruikers

On one hand he tells us it's a "scientific fact"

Then on the other hand he's saying that it's a "robust theory and observation"

This is why I dislike the self bestowed "Climate Scientists"



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/nervous-naysayers-on-the-road-t...

The physics by which this warms the planet's surface is a scientific fact, not a political football. Global warming is proving robust in both theory and observation; each year traps more energy in the lower atmosphere.
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #230 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:59pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:46pm:
Lucky for us we have water. But you didnt know that. Hey look everyone. Water is almost 100% of the greenhouse effect, keeping us warm as well as cooling us down.

Seriously, go learn some BASIC freaking geology before opening your mouth
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image270f.gif


No, you go and learn some basic physics you numpty. Start with the Clausius-Clapeyron relation which dictates that the level of H2O in the atmosphere is regulated by temperature, ie. water condenses into what we call "rain", and the only way that H2O can increase in the atmosphere is if the temperature increases, it is a function of temperature, it can't cause temperature to increase. So while H2O IS a more 'potent' greenhouse gas, it's role in climate change is cursory.

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Climate Change science is an Observational Science at best

Whereas the Sodium example can be readily tested and re-tested


What other observational sciences do you reject, Maqqa? Why aren't you railing against astronomy or plate tectonics, you moron?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11th, 2011 at 11:23am:
So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&
 
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #231 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:00pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:53pm:
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:34pm:
Actually Luke, he is just new, and probably did not realise I was a mod, and would have the ability to delete his post, which provided his "parody" of my post, as a direct quote from mozzaok.
I think the fact that his post was deleted seemed draconian to him, hence the nazi slur, but I think we can cut him some slack, and let him find his feet here, before we get too upset about things.
He may surprise us, and only be a nitwit about denialism, because the sad fact is the denialist PR machine has conned quite a few good folk, who have pretty sound thinking on other issues, we will have to see what unfolds.



I think you will be disappointed. I've read a few of the other comments he has made.

Quick, you better ban me because I don't conform to your way of thinking.

Isn't that the way your kind deals with dissenting views?

*edit* PS I have made 8 posts and already you are hunting me down Luke. Why is that?



Plenty of different views here
It seems your only banned for being a abusive prick continously
You have plenty of allies here sprouting the same stuff.
Don't expect it to go unchallenged though

I have no problems being challenged, but when you find a forum where one of the mods spouts rhetorical nonsense from a one eyed and one dimensional view point coupled with the threat of a ban, then I can already see how the tone of the forum and mods is. And mozzaoks view is certainly one dimensional

Encourage robust debate until the robustness is not in my favour
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #232 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:02pm
 
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:00pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:53pm:
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:34pm:
Actually Luke, he is just new, and probably did not realise I was a mod, and would have the ability to delete his post, which provided his "parody" of my post, as a direct quote from mozzaok.
I think the fact that his post was deleted seemed draconian to him, hence the nazi slur, but I think we can cut him some slack, and let him find his feet here, before we get too upset about things.
He may surprise us, and only be a nitwit about denialism, because the sad fact is the denialist PR machine has conned quite a few good folk, who have pretty sound thinking on other issues, we will have to see what unfolds.



I think you will be disappointed. I've read a few of the other comments he has made.

Quick, you better ban me because I don't conform to your way of thinking.

Isn't that the way your kind deals with dissenting views?

*edit* PS I have made 8 posts and already you are hunting me down Luke. Why is that?



Plenty of different views here
It seems your only banned for being a abusive prick continously
You have plenty of allies here sprouting the same stuff.
Don't expect it to go unchallenged though

I have no problems being challenged, but when you find a forum where one of the mods spouts rhetorical nonsense from a one eyed and one dimensional view point coupled with the threat of a ban, then I can already see how the tone of the forum and mods is. And mozzaoks view is certainly one dimensional

Encourage robust debate until the robustness is not in my favour


It's a bit early to be playing the victim, isn't it precious?
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #233 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:02pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:56pm:


On one hand he tells us it's a "scientific fact"

Then on the other hand he's saying that it's a "robust theory and observation"



Maqqa, the spastic, doesn't understand the concept of a scientific theory! You smacking reject, you! Grin

A scientific theory is a type of inductive theory, in that its content (i.e. empirical data) could be expressed within some formal system of logic whose elementary rules (i.e. scientific laws) are taken as axioms. In a deductive theory, any sentence which is a logical consequence of one or more of the axioms is also a sentence of that theory.[2]
In the humanities, one finds theories whose subject matter does not (only) concern empirical data, but rather ideas. Such theories are in the realm of philosophical theories as contrasted with scientific theories. A philosophical theory is not necessarily scientifically testable through experiment.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11th, 2011 at 11:23am:
So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&
 
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #234 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:04pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:53pm:
Plenty of different views here
It seems your only banned for being a abusive prick continously
You have plenty of allies here sprouting the same stuff.
Don't expect it to go unchallenged though


So who exactly is this particular sock-puppet? Anyone I'd know?
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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11th, 2011 at 11:23am:
So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&
 
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #235 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:05pm
 
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #236 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:05pm
 
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:48pm:
Hilarious.

No, I would rather just point out how much of a simpleton you are, hence the previous post.

Try to keep up.


Which previous post are you referring to Luke? If you are so inclined to prove me a simpleton, you should be so inclined to point out your 'proof'.

Or you can continue on being mozzaoks little lapdog if that's more to your liking considering your first post in this thread
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #237 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:07pm
 
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:02pm:
It's a bit early to be playing the victim, isn't it precious?

Not when one of the mods has deleted one of my first posts lapdog
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #238 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:10pm
 
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:00pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:53pm:
Jason Crowther wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Luke Fowler wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
mozzaok wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:34pm:
Actually Luke, he is just new, and probably did not realise I was a mod, and would have the ability to delete his post, which provided his "parody" of my post, as a direct quote from mozzaok.
I think the fact that his post was deleted seemed draconian to him, hence the nazi slur, but I think we can cut him some slack, and let him find his feet here, before we get too upset about things.
He may surprise us, and only be a nitwit about denialism, because the sad fact is the denialist PR machine has conned quite a few good folk, who have pretty sound thinking on other issues, we will have to see what unfolds.



I think you will be disappointed. I've read a few of the other comments he has made.

Quick, you better ban me because I don't conform to your way of thinking.

Isn't that the way your kind deals with dissenting views?

*edit* PS I have made 8 posts and already you are hunting me down Luke. Why is that?



Plenty of different views here
It seems your only banned for being a abusive prick continously
You have plenty of allies here sprouting the same stuff.
Don't expect it to go unchallenged though

I have no problems being challenged, but when you find a forum where one of the mods spouts rhetorical nonsense from a one eyed and one dimensional view point coupled with the threat of a ban, then I can already see how the tone of the forum and mods is. And mozzaoks view is certainly one dimensional

Encourage robust debate until the robustness is not in my favour



I see, you are either a total cretin, or totally dishonest, possibly both.
The threat of a ban was for your dishonesty, as was openly stated.
Spin it how you like, your act, and intent was dishonest, as is your pathetic attempt at defending it now, you nit.
Give up, and try and retain some dignity.
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #239 - Jun 6th, 2011 at 9:16pm
 


Humanity as a whole has become dangerously out-of-touch with its own life-giving environment - and it is time that our species reconsidered its relationship with the planet - and preferably before we collectively-trigger a catastrophic explosion of unprecedented and self-escalating environmental reactions...

In its bizarre quest to conquer, control, plunder and accumulate, humanity has been wantonly destructive and wasteful - and has left enormous permanent scars on our landscape - and on aquatic systems and marinescapes too...

In the process, humanity has also been uniquely responsible for the rapid demise of countless plant and animal species - and biotic communities - and the speedy rise of a narrow range of both 'useful' species and many outright 'pests'...

Over the past few hundred years - and decades in particular - these impacts have been compounding and expanding at an exponential rate...

It is true that the environment changes in a dynamic fashion - but we must be mindful that natural processes rarely respond in the manner that we would want when we make such dramatic and widespread changes as we have been making...

It is also true that humanity has amassed invaluable knowledge and technology - but we should not be so arrogant as to presume that we can use same to control nature's grave responses to some of our most reckless actions...

To date, those nations who have been most responsible for harming the planet have demonstrated an unwillingness to make compromises in their relationship with the environment and/or the peoples of other nations...

Those dominant nations need to be told that they cannot continue to wantonly rob and poo in their own nests - nor can they be allowed to continue to plunder and pollute the nests of other nations, nor the future nests of their descendants...

We humans are smart enough to identify what damage has been done and to reasonably-predict the likely medium and longer-term consequences - but first we must ditch the arrogance, find some humility and compassion and take some responsibility for doing what must be done to prevent mass Darwin Awards...

Notably, we must stop worshiping the insatiable 'Growth Fairy' - and his evil twin the 'Good Greedy Witch of the West' - and their Mickey Mouse Monopoly Money!

Ahem!!!! That's the end of the brain explosion for the time being....

Embarrassed

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Lamenting the shift in the Australian psyche, away from the egalitarian ideal of the fair-go - and the rise of short-sighted pollies, who worship the 'Growth Fairy' and seek to divide and conquer!
 
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