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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #360 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:05pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Ask Ian Pilmer what it is like to challenge the CC orthodoxy.

Yeah its rough having your sensationalist, for-profit, pop-science book deconstructed with facts:

http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91

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Listen to the level of abuse heaped on anti-CC posters

Have you read any of your own posts lately? You flaming hypocrite.

you shoudl read some of your hysterical abuse, troll. the more your positions is undermined the more virulent your attacks become. and the font size tends to increase too as if shouting louder makes you more credible.

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #361 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:05pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Ask Ian Pilmer what it is like to challenge the CC orthodoxy.

Yeah its rough having your sensationalist, for-profit, pop-science book deconstructed with facts:

http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91

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Listen to the level of abuse heaped on anti-CC posters

Have you read any of your own posts lately? You flaming hypocrite.

you shoudl read some of your hysterical abuse, troll. the more your positions is undermined the more virulent your attacks become. and the font size tends to increase too as if shouting louder makes you more credible.

If you abuse me, I abuse you back. If you shout at me, I shout back. I only give what I get.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #362 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:19pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:05pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Ask Ian Pilmer what it is like to challenge the CC orthodoxy.

Yeah its rough having your sensationalist, for-profit, pop-science book deconstructed with facts:

http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91

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Listen to the level of abuse heaped on anti-CC posters

Have you read any of your own posts lately? You flaming hypocrite.

you shoudl read some of your hysterical abuse, troll. the more your positions is undermined the more virulent your attacks become. and the font size tends to increase too as if shouting louder makes you more credible.

If you abuse me, I abuse you back. If you shout at me, I shout back. I only give what I get.

i dont use large fonts. thats for dimwits who need to shout because their argument is so poor.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #363 - Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:19pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:05pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Ask Ian Pilmer what it is like to challenge the CC orthodoxy.

Yeah its rough having your sensationalist, for-profit, pop-science book deconstructed with facts:

http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91

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Listen to the level of abuse heaped on anti-CC posters

Have you read any of your own posts lately? You flaming hypocrite.

you shoudl read some of your hysterical abuse, troll. the more your positions is undermined the more virulent your attacks become. and the font size tends to increase too as if shouting louder makes you more credible.

If you abuse me, I abuse you back. If you shout at me, I shout back. I only give what I get.

i dont use large fonts. thats for dimwits who need to shout because their argument is so poor.

I agree. That's why I only use when talking to Maqqa.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #364 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:43am

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:19pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:05pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Ask Ian Pilmer what it is like to challenge the CC orthodoxy.

Yeah its rough having your sensationalist, for-profit, pop-science book deconstructed with facts:

http://www.complex.org.au/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91

Quote:

Listen to the level of abuse heaped on anti-CC posters

Have you read any of your own posts lately? You flaming hypocrite.

you shoudl read some of your hysterical abuse, troll. the more your positions is undermined the more virulent your attacks become. and the font size tends to increase too as if shouting louder makes you more credible.

If you abuse me, I abuse you back. If you shout at me, I shout back. I only give what I get.

i dont use large fonts. thats for dimwits who need to shout because their argument is so poor.

I agree. That's why I only use when talking to Maqqa.

But you never really addressed the point of the thread. Im not sure you even understood it.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism Reply #365 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:18pm longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:43am: But you never really addressed the point of the thread. Im not sure you even understood it. Oh, I understood it just fine, it was a poor attempt at projecting your own anti science, climate extremism onto others.
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #366 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:38pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:43am:

But you never really addressed the point of the thread. Im not sure you even understood it.

Oh, I understood it just fine, it was a poor attempt at projecting your own anti science, climate extremism onto others.

LOL. that comment merely demonstrates that you didnt even read it - much less understand it. it wasnt an anti-science post at all. it was a call to fact-based discussion and the acceptance of the right to hold differing views - all that nice lefty-thinking that you like to espouse when you are in the minoirty and then throw overboard when you reach a critical mass.

your complete and total lack of any ability to discuss topics critically reveals nothing more than your own immaturity. far brighter and wiser people than you wouldnt dare to be so absolute about controversial questions as you are.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #367 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:44pm

creep wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 12:31pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 7:06am:

I'd be interested to know if any such hate campaigns and threats of violence have been levelled at denialists.

Rational people don't send themselves hate mail like those that deny that global watrming is a scam do.

This is a prime example of the absolute idiocy, displayed by denialists.

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OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #368 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:38pm:

LOL. that comment merely demonstrates that you didnt even read it - much less understand it. it wasnt an anti-science post at all. it was a call to fact-based discussion and the acceptance of the right to hold differing views - all that nice lefty-thinking that you like to espouse when you are in the minoirty and then throw overboard when you reach a critical mass.

your complete and total lack of any ability to discuss topics critically reveals nothing more than your own immaturity. far brighter and wiser people than you wouldnt dare to be so absolute about controversial questions as you are.

Yes, when it comes to science, if the views you are expressing are NOT reflected in the scientific literature then those views are entirely irrelevant and meaningless and I won't 'discuss' them, only shoot them down for the misleading denier talking points that they are.

I make no qualms about that whatsoever.

Like I've said before, your major problem is that you cannot distinguish between media debate and scientific debate.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #369 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:23pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:43am:

But you never really addressed the point of the thread. Im not sure you even understood it.

Oh, I understood it just fine, it was a poor attempt at projecting your own anti science, climate extremism onto others.

Agreed!

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #370 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:28pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:38pm:

LOL. that comment merely demonstrates that you didnt even read it - much less understand it. it wasnt an anti-science post at all. it was a call to fact-based discussion and the acceptance of the right to hold differing views - all that nice lefty-thinking that you like to espouse when you are in the minoirty and then throw overboard when you reach a critical mass.

your complete and total lack of any ability to discuss topics critically reveals nothing more than your own immaturity. far brighter and wiser people than you wouldnt dare to be so absolute about controversial questions as you are.

Yes, when it comes to science, if the views you are expressing are NOT reflected in the scientific literature then those views are entirely irrelevant and meaningless and I won't 'discuss' them, only shoot them down for the misleading denier talking points that they are.

I make no qualms about that whatsoever.

Like I've said before, your major problem is that you cannot distinguish between media debate and scientific debate.

You DO realise, dont you that the OP WASNT about science? read it again and try and understand it. it was about EXTREMISM on both sides of the debate the reality of which is undeniable. It was about the way that the majority of the debate hinges on the sensational and dramatic rather than the sensibile.

And if you ahd been around for Y2K you'd know why there are so many sceptics today. so many people predicted the end of the world then as well. and then there was the end of petrol in 1985. Global cooling in thw 60s. nuclear obliteration in the 70s. We've heard it all before. It gets old. And here you are talking about catastrophic heating during one of the coldest spells in history.

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #371 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:30pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:23pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:43am:

But you never really addressed the point of the thread. Im not sure you even understood it.

Oh, I understood it just fine, it was a poor attempt at projecting your own anti science, climate extremism onto others.

Agreed!

given that you have only one topic in your head, nedwin your opinion doesnt count for much.

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Reply #372 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:28pm:

It was about the way that the majority of the debate hinges on the sensational and dramatic rather than the sensibile.

Can you please explain to everyone on what level do you consider the following statement sensible, as opposed to dramatic and sensational:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2011 at 11:50am:

The Carbon Tax is actually an example of blind extremism.

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #373 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 3:30pm

jame-e wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:28pm:

It was about the way that the majority of the debate hinges on the sensational and dramatic rather than the sensibile.

Can you please explain to everyone on what level do you consider the following statement sensible, as opposed to dramatic and sensational:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2011 at 11:50am:

The Carbon Tax is actually an example of blind extremism.

It is easy to defend. The Carbon tax is a BELIEF rather than a science. We have polllies and writers desperately seeking a carbon tax and pronouncing how it will save the world and so on. yet in every single example of it being in use anywhere inthe world it has totally failed to acheive any of its objectives. Knowing this, what kind of person continues to push for a policy that is already known to NOT WORK?? Idealogues. EXtremists. rational people would suggest a different methodology.

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Reply #374 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 3:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

jame-e wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 1:28pm:

It was about the way that the majority of the debate hinges on the sensational and dramatic rather than the sensibile.

Can you please explain to everyone on what level do you consider the following statement sensible, as opposed to dramatic and sensational:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2011 at 11:50am:

The Carbon Tax is actually an example of blind extremism.

It is easy to defend. The Carbon tax is a BELIEF rather than a science. We have polllies and writers desperately seeking a carbon tax and pronouncing how it will save the world and so on. yet in every single example of it being in use anywhere inthe world it has totally failed to acheive any of its objectives. Know this, what kind of person continues to push for a policy that is already known to NOT WORK?? Idealogues. EXtremists. rational people would suggest a different methodology.

Sorry boys and girls

Father Xmas will not deliver your presents this year due to reindeer striking

With the latest threats on killing camels due to their carbon footprint - the United Reindeer Federation are effectively on strike until further notice

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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