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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #75 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #76 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #77 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

The first nine minutes pertains to the "hide the decline" controversy, the following nine minutes covers Muller's misrepresentation of the issue and his failed attempts at setting up a review that was supposed to expose the lies of climate science, but which actually overwhelmingly supported the conclusions of AGW.

What's the bet you won't even watch it though?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #78 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:50pm

Yes Muller's video is great

Certainly exposes what the global warmist Chicken Littles don't want you to know about.
Especially this aspect that increased warming causes increased evaporation of moisture from the earth’s surface and increased vapour in the atmosphere, which may—or may not—cause increased cloud cover.
The greatest uncertainty with regard to predicting climate change is that it cannot be determined as yet whether global warming caused by increased C02 will or will not cause increased cloud cover.
Muller asserts that if in fact cloud cover is increased by 2 percent, there will be no global warming, which the IPCC report supports.
So where's that invreased water vapour go if not forming into clouds?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism Reply #80 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 7:35pm smacking Deathridesahorse!!! Shoulda known!!!!
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #81 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 7:37pm

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism Reply #82 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 9:26pm Soren wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 7:35pm: smacking Deathridesahorse!!! Shoulda known!!!! Similar spamming. The correlation between the 2 personalities are just too close. Makes you wonder.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism Reply #83 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:23pm it certianly looks like him. as soon as he is pushed into a corner by the science he exploded into his usual garbage. he couldnt defend his own ridiculous extremeist nonsense so her revertd to type.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism Reply #84 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:26pm astro_surf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 7:03pm: whar an embarrassingly bad video. just like the previous one. no science. just the abuse of anyone who stands against their new religion.
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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #85 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

Well done LW, there may yet be hope for you.

That said, I should point out, following a review of both the Creeps video & the following one from Astro, that our friend Mr Muller seems to have a split personality.

In Creeps video, Muller says, he agrees that Global Warming is happening & it is human caused to an extent, he then highlights many areas indicating why the IPCC got things wrong.

Then in Astro's video, which was done about 6 months later than Creeps video, Muller says before a US Congress hearing on March 31st, 2011 that his new organisations initial investigations agreed that the work of NOAA, NASA GISS & the UK, on Global Warming, was correct and that warming had indeed increased by 1.2 degrees between 1900 to now and an increase of 0.7 between 1957 to now.

Muller also specifically disagreed with "Watts up with That", an anti Climate Change website, on the issue on where weather stations are located and whether that has made a difference to the stats.

Is it possible that Bill Gates & David Koch, who are major sponsors of Mullers new organisation, may be pulling Muller in different directions and that may have some bearing on what Muller is saying?

Muller also mentioned various Energy related issues in the Creeps video, which dates back to October, 2010.

Muller lauds Nuclear, which in hindsight now has great problems, following the Japan situation and Germanies abandonment of their Nuclear industry by 2023 (roughly).

Muller also lauds, Coal & Natural Gas, as replacements for Oil, which also clearly has problems, given that Coal is now close to Peaking and probably only has another 40-60 years, whilst the Natural Gas he refers to involves the Fracking Extraction process in the USA, which is now being examined in a lot more detail, as many problems are arising with that process, including issues such as contamination of underground water acquifiers, to even causing local earthquakes.

I would put Muller into the question mark area, at this point!

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #86 - Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

'hardly a nobody'.

A nobody like you and me, good. Dr Muller is not a nobody.

Dr Muller excepts the planet is warming. Unnaturally warming due too anthropogenic emissions. Did i misunderstand?

Dr Mullers loudest claims contradicting the science have been proven to be bogus. Do i misunderstand?

Yes it is a good video.

Does it support your claims of extremism, i can't see how.

Am i correct to arrive at the conclusion that you are simply greedy and/or have a vested interest in Australia not adopting an ETS?

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #87 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 12:07am

jame-e wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

'hardly a nobody'.

A nobody like you and me, good. Dr Muller is not a nobody.

Dr Muller excepts the planet is warming. Unnaturally warming due too anthropogenic emissions. Did i misunderstand?

Dr Mullers loudest claims contradicting the science have been proven to be bogus. Do i misunderstand?

Yes it is a good video.

Does it support your claims of extremism, i can't see how.

Am i correct to arrive at the conclusion that you are simply greedy and/or have a vested interest in Australia not adopting an ETS?

Yes, I think he lives here.

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #88 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 8:29am

jame-e wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

'hardly a nobody'.

A nobody like you and me, good. Dr Muller is not a nobody.

Dr Muller excepts the planet is warming. Unnaturally warming due too anthropogenic emissions. Did i misunderstand?

Dr Mullers loudest claims contradicting the science have been proven to be bogus. Do i misunderstand?

Yes it is a good video.

Does it support your claims of extremism, i can't see how.

Am i correct to arrive at the conclusion that you are simply greedy and/or have a vested interest in Australia not adopting an ETS?

you are truly and idiot. your typical extremists that impugnes the character of people on the basis of disagreeing with YOU. your opinion is now considered worthless.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Avoiding Climate Extremism
Reply #89 - Jun 5^th, 2011 at 8:32am

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 11:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

creep wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

Please delete wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Several of Australia's top climate change scientists at the Australian National University have been subjected to a campaign of death threats, forcing the university to tighten security.

Several of the scientists in Canberra have been moved to a more secure location after receiving the threats over their research.

It will not surprise anybody if these supposed death threats were actually conjured up by the scientists themselves.
As afterall they have done this before, with climategate.
As the world gets more and more information and facts, less support is going to the global warmists.
The scaremongerers may now be trying to conjure up support via sympathy!

Especially when you have a professor from the IPCC release information about, and of all the facts on the 'global warming' scam

Great stuff and excellant viewing.
Certainly smashes the global warmists for six and out of the park.
No wonder the global warmists are running around like Chicken Little, completely in denial of the facts.

Apart from your repeated nonsense about this guy coming from the IPCC this is a good video. and the guy is a professor at Berkley so hardly a nobody.

Well done LW, there may yet be hope for you.

That said, I should point out, following a review of both the Creeps video & the following one from Astro, that our friend Mr Muller seems to have a split personality.

In Creeps video, Muller says, he agrees that Global Warming is happening & it is human caused to an extent, he then highlights many areas indicating why the IPCC got things wrong.

Then in Astro's video, which was done about 6 months later than Creeps video, Muller says before a US Congress hearing on March 31st, 2011 that his new organisations initial investigations agreed that the work of NOAA, NASA GISS & the UK, on Global Warming, was correct and that warming had indeed increased by 1.2 degrees between 1900 to now and an increase of 0.7 between 1957 to now.

Muller also specifically disagreed with "Watts up with That", an anti Climate Change website, on the issue on where weather stations are located and whether that has made a difference to the stats.

Is it possible that Bill Gates & David Koch, who are major sponsors of Mullers new organisation, may be pulling Muller in different directions and that may have some bearing on what Muller is saying?

Muller also mentioned various Energy related issues in the Creeps video, which dates back to October, 2010.

Muller lauds Nuclear, which in hindsight now has great problems, following the Japan situation and Germanies abandonment of their Nuclear industry by 2023 (roughly).

Muller also lauds, Coal & Natural Gas, as replacements for Oil, which also clearly has problems, given that Coal is now close to Peaking and probably only has another 40-60 years, whilst the Natural Gas he refers to involves the Fracking Extraction process in the USA, which is now being examined in a lot more detail, as many problems are arising with that process, including issues such as contamination of underground water acquifiers, to even causing local earthquakes.

I would put Muller into the question mark area, at this point!

astro_turds video is embarrasingly bad. it is nothing more than an assault on the characted of people. and saying that temperature has risen 1.2 degrees since 1957 is hardly news. Muller said that years ago. But I love how MUller is a wanker when he disagrees with AGW but is ok when he agrees with it. such is the scientific fraud of AGW proponents.

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