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Reply #45 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 10:41am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 10:25am:

Imcrook - I bet over the last 5 years I have worked infinitely more hours than you have.

Dedication and work ethic mate. That is why some succeed and some fail.

That requires a definition of 'work' and 'success'. To my mind there's more than one measure of success and if money is one of them, it's a pretty unimportant one compared with happiness, making a real difference, and being a good parent.

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Reply #46 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:04am

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The number of working hours you do means the more or less pay you get. But don't think for a moment because you do more hours, your job is any more secure. I have worked both short and long hours for different company's. With the norm being an 8 hour day. Also I have worked 12 hour days 7 days a week. Yes more money, but more job security - no.

So you not working now is your revenge?

Do you suffer a disability?

Are you trade qualified?

Have you sought to get additional qualifications since you last had a job?

Have you been prepared to even take on part time work, like stacking shelves, in order to get back into the work force?

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Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days.
Reply #47 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:13am

Verge wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:04am:

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The number of working hours you do means the more or less pay you get. But don't think for a moment because you do more hours, your job is any more secure. I have worked both short and long hours for different company's. With the norm being an 8 hour day. Also I have worked 12 hour days 7 days a week. Yes more money, but more job security - no.

So you not working now is your revenge?

Do you suffer a disability?

Are you trade qualified?

Have you sought to get additional qualifications since you last had a job?

Have you been prepared to even take on part time work, like stacking shelves, in order to get back into the work force?

Leave it out, Verge...this kind of assault is not like you - nor is it becoming of anyone...

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days. Reply #48 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:14am What revenge?. If a person is not working I certainly wouldn't call it revenge. After all the unemployed sure can live a life of luxury, on what is it- $34 a day?. Perhaps some people that think it is so good, should try it.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days. Reply #49 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:20am IMO, to measure the worth of a person ONLY by how much he earns OR whether he has a job or not is childish in the extreme, and reflects FAR more badly on the judge than on those he judges.
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Reply #50 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:31am

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The number of working hours you do means the more or less pay you get. But don't think for a moment because you do more hours, your job is any more secure. I have worked both short and long hours for different company's. With the norm being an 8 hour day. Also I have worked 12 hour days 7 days a week. Yes more money, but more job security - no.

I dont think my job is 100% secure.
If I wanted total security and the ability to work short hours without worry, I'd get a job in the private sector.

My job is no more secure than anyone else who works in a performance-based, high pressure environment.

I also believe though that I have the skillset (and the fortune through EU and AUS passports) to work across markets, across industries and continue to add value to companies.

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Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days.
Reply #51 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:44am

Grey wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 10:41am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 10:25am:

Imcrook - I bet over the last 5 years I have worked infinitely more hours than you have.

Dedication and work ethic mate. That is why some succeed and some fail.

That requires a definition of 'work' and 'success'. To my mind there's more than one measure of success and if money is one of them, it's a pretty unimportant one compared with happiness, making a real difference, and being a good parent.

Andrei is a robot, he knows not the measure of a man, and has no interest in finding out, unlike the Bicentennial Man from Isaac Asimov's robot collection.

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days. Reply #52 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:48am Whereas Pansi thinks it is a measure of success to be working in a low-wage low skill role in her twilight years. Apparently my parents' ability to live off of their investments is something she wouldn't want. Go figure.
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Re: Sacked For Refusing To Work 14 Hour Days.
Reply #53 - Jun 7^th, 2011 at 1:48pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 7^th, 2011 at 11:48am:

Whereas Pansi thinks it is a measure of success to be working in a low-wage low skill role in her twilight years.

Apparently my parents' ability to live off of their investments is something she wouldn't want.

Go figure.

The things that I count as successes are seriously for love, no money involved. Can you try to be a critical thinker and take the risk to step outside of the square, look at things from all angles. Critical thinkers are an asset in any workplace because they are not locked into only one train of thought.

It seems that the only way you look at life is through the almighty $$$$$$, you should look at life from all aspects and positions to get an overall big picture. You are extremely closed minded in your world views. I would not want such a person working for my company.

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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