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Re: MP Bob Katter registered Katter's Australian Party
Reply #45 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 3:40pm
 
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"Surpassed" by WHAT ?


Did you have to ask, now the thread will meander down an experiment in Germany path Sad




Yep, and so it should as the german "experiment" will pave the way for greater developement.

For it to claim that the NBN is 21st century technology shows how out of date it is.




... and that "German experiment used the SAME optic fibre




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LOL..it isn't hard to imagine how this will devolve into The Mad Katters Tea Party...
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Reply #47 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:14pm
 
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... and that "German experiment used the SAME optic fibre


Shhhhhhhhhh, you'll spoil the story!
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Reply #48 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:17pm
 


Heads up down - Katter's recruiting poaching....

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/katters-recruitment-drive-for-new-party/st...

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Queensland independent MP Bob Katter has formed a new political party. Picture: Megan Slade Source: The Courier-Mail

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Katter's recruitment drive for new party

   * Jessica Marszalek
   * From: AAP
   * June 05, 2011 3:48PM

MAVERICK MP Bob Katter has launched a new political party he says will be a force to be reckoned with at the next federal and Queensland polls.

The colourful federal independent, who on Friday had lodged registration papers for Katter's Australian Party, on Sunday called for candidates, volunteers and donations to get his party off the ground.

Mr Katter said he had no choice, believing that the group of independents in Canberra - who decided the balance of power after last year's election and delivered a hung parliament - had achieved nothing.

"In the last election the people of Australia said, 'We're not going to vote for you any longer, we've had enough'," he said.

But voters had only got more of the same, he said.

Mr Katter said he would appeal to both city and country voters under his new banner, but would unashamedly represent agriculture.

Among his policies are:

- Repeal a carbon tax, if in place;
- Legislate to limit Woolworth and Coles to 22.5 per cent market share each;
- Deregulate industries like dairy;
- Make ethanol mandatory to reduce petrol prices;
- Significantly increase customs duty on products coming into Australia; and
- Relax recreational fishing rules.

Mr Katter said he would concentrate on winning seats in the upcoming Queensland election, due in early 2012, before contesting the next federal poll.

He asked for men and women who believed in something and would stand up for their constituents over the party machine to throw their hats in the ring.

"For those people that have been out there in a comfortable cocoon of big-party endorsement, well, happy days are at an end my friends," he said as a warning to the major parties.

"You're going to have to stand up and represent your people or you're going to lose your seat.

"We're coming after you."

But Mr Katter would not speculate on what kind of success he hoped for, instead referring to the achievements of One Nation in its heyday.

"If you'd told me when One Nation kicked off that they'd get 11 seats (at the 1998 Queensland election) I would have thought you were mad, you know," he said.

Mr Katter would not reveal candidates-in-waiting, saying he had to wait for the registration to be completed first.

He also called on politicians to jump ship and join him, although he said he was unsure he would want Queensland LNP politicians who had let the party machine dictate their leader.

Queensland LNP leader Campbell Newman said he doubted any of his team would want to switch, although he said he hadn't broached the issue with MPs.

But Mr Newman would not be drawn on whether Mr Katter would erode his vote.

"I'll leave that to the political commentators," he told reporters on Sunday.

"People need to understand that if they dabble with independents or minor parties they'll see (Premier) Anna Bligh get back in potentially.

"If you want change ... then you need to vote for the LNP team."



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Reply #49 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:23pm
 
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 1:11pm:
matty wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:49pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:43pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:41pm:
matty wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:34pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Won't matter anyway, Katter's a dead pollie walking. He knows that, and he knows he is only there until the next election anyway.

And love the bit about 21st Century NBN LOL
It's already outdated and there's still about 90 years to go!!!



creep, I think that you have Windsor confused with Katter Katter is the decent MP of Kennedy, who sided with the Coalition. Windsor is the traitor MP of New England, who betrayed his constituents and sided with Labor. He is also so concerned about our environment, that he sold his farm to a coal mining company.



Ummm noooo
the three independents (Katter, Oakeshott & Windsor) aligned with the GALP

Im not so sure you are correct. I think Katter knows that independants of all flavours will be a dead duck, so may have formed the party so as not to be an independant. I respect the man for saying no and having some choice words, to labor.


Unfortunately, Windsor and Oakeshott have tainted the independent 'brand'. In the recent NSW state election, 3/4 of the independent MPs in Windsor and Oakeshott's regons were thrashed by the Nationals. The only one who won, apparently made a point of not being aligned with Windsor.



Katter says he would support the GALP even though he has told "officially" Abbott that he is supporting him.



Good point, and I don't like how long Bob took to announce his decision, but in the end, he did do the right thing.

Listen to him here:

[url]  http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=621618&vId=2459818 [/url]

He does seem to care about his fellow Australians, and he is sincere and fair dinkum. Lol at his comment about the Greens.

I wonder how his and Pauline's party will coincide.
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Reply #50 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
Tony Bradshaw wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:29pm:
The party already has a pretty decent looking website up and running.

http://www.ausparty.org.au/


Colour scheme makes me think Labor.

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Unfortunately, Windsor and Oakeshott have tainted the independent 'brand'.


Oxymoron.



Indeed. That's why I put in quotation marks.
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Reply #51 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:36pm
 



The web-site is a bit in-your-face - to the point of being uncomfortable for the eyes to look at...

Oh, and there's stuff like this: -

http://www.ausparty.org.au/issues/end-to-nanny-state.html

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End to "Nanny State"

“Australian's all let us rejoice

For we are young and free"

… well kinda free as long as you don't upset noisy minority green groups and overly controlling governments.

Are you sick and tired of being told what to do?

States and Territories throughout Australia are increasingly becoming more and more restrictive, to the point they are often referred to as amongst the most litigious in the developed world. Laws exist constantly telling us where we can and can't go, what we can
and can't do and when we can and can't do it.

The difficulties involved in taking your kid fishing, visiting a national park, lighting a camp fire and boiling a billy, along with the restrictions on what you can do on your own land, have progressed to see us live in not the 'free country' we like to claim, but in an overly controlling nanny state that treats us like children, incapable of making decisions.

Like you, The Australian Party has had enough of this 'Big Brother' attitude and believes rights and responsibilities should be returned to the people who have earned them. If we want to catch a fish for dinner, or build a tree house for our kids, we should be able to do so
- and to do so without having someone looking over our shoulder all the time.

So committed to the return of our personal rights and freedoms is Katter's Australian Party, it has been fixed into the Core Values and Principles of the party and enshrined in our
constitution. We must not, and will not sit idly by and watch the continual erosion of such rights that should be enjoyed by all Australians, and we will continue to fight for a freer Australia, in which the people are free to enjoy every our great country has to offer.

Quote:
    * "Australians must have the freedom to pursue outdoor recreational activities of their choice including hunting, shooting, fishing, boating, camping, 4-wheel driving, horse riding, rock climbing, and bushwalking without unnecessary limitations and restrictions.
    * Vacant land such as State Forest and some unallocated lands and seas now designated as "off-limits" are to be owned and accessible by the people. They are not the exclusive domain of the "Crown".
    * Government interference in people's lives must finish at the family fence or property boundary. Legislation overriding all other laws must provide that intrusion and interference upon that household can only occur where human health and life is in serious and immediate jeopardy".

Core Values and Principles, #10,11 and 15




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Reply #52 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:42pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 3:40pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:49pm:
remember_when64 wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:30pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:20pm:
"Surpassed" by WHAT ?


Did you have to ask, now the thread will meander down an experiment in Germany path Sad




Yep, and so it should as the german "experiment" will pave the way for greater developement.

For it to claim that the NBN is 21st century technology shows how out of date it is.




... and that "German experiment used the SAME optic fibre







Then you agree that the optic fibre's potential has yet to be fully realised!!!


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

In fact it is no where near full potential!
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Reply #53 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:38pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:26pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Won't matter anyway, Katter's a dead pollie walking. He knows that, and he knows he is only there until the next election anyway.





Long term resident from the seat of Kennedy are we?

The bloke holds a double digit swing in that seat and has done for at least a couple of decades.

A rather stupid comment.




Yes you have made rather a stupid comment.
Katter was initially from the National Party for 10 years, you conveniently forgot to mention that.
And you also conveniently forgot tomention the alliance that Katter took up with the GALP - something that his constituents did NOT want and wish to remind him of at the next opportunity.
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I didn't conveiniently forget anything, it wasn't stated because it is not relevant to your initial statement.

Katter is an independant, and he did not alighn with the alp, in fact he stood alone on that matter you fool.

Go back to the kids table, you're making a fool of yourself here with the adults.

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Reply #54 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:47pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:44pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:38pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:26pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Won't matter anyway, Katter's a dead pollie walking. He knows that, and he knows he is only there until the next election anyway.





Long term resident from the seat of Kennedy are we?

The bloke holds a double digit swing in that seat and has done for at least a couple of decades.

A rather stupid comment.




Yes you have made rather a stupid comment.
Katter was initially from the National Party for 10 years, you conveniently forgot to mention that.
And you also conveniently forgot tomention the alliance that Katter took up with the GALP - something that his constituents did NOT want and wish to remind him of at the next opportunity.
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I didn't conveiniently forget anything, it wasn't stated because it is not relevant to your initial statement.

Katter is an independant, and he did not alighn with the alp, in fact he stood alone on that matter you fool.

Go back to the kids table, you're making a fool of yourself here with the adults.





Yes you did conveniently exclude that aspect of Katter.
And as for Katter's alignment, youre wrong on that as well, which has already been posted but here you go again. Otherwise youre making a bigger embarrassment of yourself
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201009/r634643_4351171.asx
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Reply #55 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:52pm
 
Equitist wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:36pm:
The web-site is a bit in-your-face - to the point of being uncomfortable for the eyes to look at...

Oh, and there's stuff like this: -

http://www.ausparty.org.au/issues/end-to-nanny-state.html

Quote:
End to "Nanny State"

“Australian's all let us rejoice

For we are young and free"

… well kinda free as long as you don't upset noisy minority green groups and overly controlling governments.

Are you sick and tired of being told what to do?

States and Territories throughout Australia are increasingly becoming more and more restrictive, to the point they are often referred to as amongst the most litigious in the developed world. Laws exist constantly telling us where we can and can't go, what we can
and can't do and when we can and can't do it.

The difficulties involved in taking your kid fishing, visiting a national park, lighting a camp fire and boiling a billy, along with the restrictions on what you can do on your own land, have progressed to see us live in not the 'free country' we like to claim, but in an overly controlling nanny state that treats us like children, incapable of making decisions.

Like you, The Australian Party has had enough of this 'Big Brother' attitude and believes rights and responsibilities should be returned to the people who have earned them. If we want to catch a fish for dinner, or build a tree house for our kids, we should be able to do so
- and to do so without having someone looking over our shoulder all the time.

So committed to the return of our personal rights and freedoms is Katter's Australian Party, it has been fixed into the Core Values and Principles of the party and enshrined in our
constitution. We must not, and will not sit idly by and watch the continual erosion of such rights that should be enjoyed by all Australians, and we will continue to fight for a freer Australia, in which the people are free to enjoy every our great country has to offer.

Quote:
   * "Australians must have the freedom to pursue outdoor recreational activities of their choice including hunting, shooting, fishing, boating, camping, 4-wheel driving, horse riding, rock climbing, and bushwalking without unnecessary limitations and restrictions.
   * Vacant land such as State Forest and some unallocated lands and seas now designated as "off-limits" are to be owned and accessible by the people. They are not the exclusive domain of the "Crown".
   * Government interference in people's lives must finish at the family fence or property boundary. Legislation overriding all other laws must provide that intrusion and interference upon that household can only occur where human health and life is in serious and immediate jeopardy".

Core Values and Principles, #10,11 and 15






I have to say that I don't understand the colour. Why red?
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Reply #56 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:53pm
 


More from Katter's site: -

http://www.ausparty.org.au/issues/keep-our-state-assets.html

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Keep our State Assets

    * The Australian Party will stop the Labor Party and the LNP selling off Queensland’s State owned power stations.
    * We will stop the sale of the Abbott point Coal terminal
    * We will stop any further sales of our strategic State owned assets and we will implement strategies to see a reversal of past asset sales where practicable.

Our state owned assets should be kept as state owned assets!

Australians have worked hard over the years to build and develop these assets and today, should be reaping their rewards and benefits. Our roads, ports and railways, water and electricity, the Snowy River Scheme are all infrastructure we should be immensely proud of.

The situation though, is that both of today’s bigger political parties seem determined to place these assets in the hands of multi- national corporations, selling them off in order to fund superficial projects aimed, not at bettering our country, but at protecting their own jobs at the next election. Time and time again, this has proven to deliver nothing but higher prices, and the loss of jobs.

This is something you will notice every time you pay for your electricity.

Since 2004, your average household bill has risen over $500 and is now flagged to rise again. One can only imagine the rise we will suffer if more of our electricity is sold to money- hungry corporations.

It's just not right that corporations (many foreign owned) end up getting the benefit of what has taken hard working Australians generations to build and pay off. Particularly when the generations that follow are left to pay the price, every day.


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     "Governments should provide essential services such as airports, water, electricity, gas, health services, road networks, public transport and communications. Where such services are not provided by government, government should ensure that the services are affordable for all and of a reasonable standard".

Core Values and Principles, #9




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Why the red!?

NFI - other than that some colour blind people are unable to distinguish it from green!?

Oh, and perhaps that Katter is looking to associate his party with Andrew Bolt!?
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Meantime, back at Red Hatt Ranch: -

http://www.ausparty.org.au/issues/free-trade.html

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Free Trade

Why are we supporting jobs in China, shutting down our industries and selling off our country to overseas corporations?

Back in 1986, when Paul Keating started the push for a ‘free market’, the Australian economy was stripped of all its defences. The Howard government continued the work with even more zeal and now both major parties champion the scrapping of subsidies, tariffs and government preferences for Australian manufacturing – All in the name of “Free Trade”.

These policies left only 2 possibilities;

1. Work under Chinese conditions – wage levels, environmental standards and work settings ...or.2. Close down all our manufacturing, agriculture and industry.

Since that time, it’s fairly obvious to see the effect on our industries.

   * 86% of cars on our roads used to be Australian made. Now only 21%,
   * One of Australia’s biggest ship builders, NQEA used to employ 1000 people. Now 60. The story for untold numbers of other companies across all markets is the same.
   * We were once 95% self-sufficient in oil, now we’re only 65%. So now we’re at the mercy of the world’s major oil producing nations for our supply and the corporation controlled markets for our price.
   * Our mining industry was once almost entirely Australian owned, as was dairy, sugar, meat process, railways and major construction. This is most certainly not the case today.
   * Sheep numbers have dropped from 174 million to 68million (In 1990, 15% of all Australian exports came from wool)
   * We used to have 33 million cattle. Now only 26 million.

Over the last 10 years Australia has signed free trade agreements With Singapore, Thailand and the USA.  According to a report Commissioned by the Victorian Branch of the Electrical Trades Union, even the Singapore free trade agreement has cost us jobs in the
manufacturing sector.

It is estimated that in total the three agreements have cost Australia 26,000 manufacturing jobs.

In the case of each country our imports have increased faster than our exports and, in the case of Singapore, our exports have gone backwards.

In the case of Thailand the composition of our trade has changed. Exports of vehicles fell from $4.6 million in 2005 to $1.8 million in 2007 while imports of motor vehicles tripled from $1 billion in 2004 to $3 billion.

If Julia Gillard has her way Australia will sign a free trade agreement with China. According to the ETU’s report, the best we could hope for is to lose another 7,000 jobs to China. The worst case would be the loss of another 160,000 jobs.

The Australian Party is committed to providing support and protection to Australian industries and reversing this madness, bringing jobs back home and reviving our once proud manufacturing and agriculture industries. To see this happen, we will push to ensure;

   * Australia does not sign any more free trade agreements, especially with countries like China, the social, labour, environment and financial policies of which make it impossible for Australia to compete.
   * A law is implemented requiring the Parliament to approve treaties before they are signed. Presently the Government of the day simply signs the Australian people up to watever international treaty takes their fancy without any requirement to consult the parliament of the people.
   * All Governments, where practical to purchase Australian goods only. The very first place where this should be implemented is through the purchase of Australian made cars for all governmental departments. Where governments can’t source locally made products they should be required to purchase imported product through Australian companies to allow opportunities for value adding, innovation, employment and the development of local warranty, repair and support facilities.

Lets once again become proud to be Australian Made.

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Core Values and Principles, # 5

Sovereignty

Australia’s sovereignty and independence as a nation requires australia to:

  1. have a sufficient Defence Force to deter invasion and to prevent any territorial intrusion or threat;
  2. maintain strategic defence industry capabilities to ensure Australia is self-sufficient in the manufacture of strategic Defence requirements;
  3. establish and nurture relationships and alliances to secure support and assistance in times of peril;
  4. exercise appropriate stewardship and development of our resources;
  5. have a strong economy which is as self-sufficient as is Practicable;
  6. be self-sufficient in the production of food and to ensure security of food supply;
  7. ensure that Australia’s food is produced in a disease-free environment and that the importing of diseases which threaten our food  supply does not occur;
  8. ensure security of strategic resources, including minerals;
  9. have a sufficient population and for that population to be so distributed as to demonstrate occupation, control and utilisation of our land, water and other resources; and
 10. # put Australia’s interests first in respect to ownership of agricultural and, corporations, utilities, resources, and the means of production and ensure that foreign ownership or control of resources and agricultural production only occurs when it is in the national interest and does not undermine or threaten Australia’s independence and sovereignty.

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Re: MP Bob Katter registered Katter's Australian Party
Reply #59 - Jun 5th, 2011 at 5:12pm
 
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 4:42pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 3:40pm:
creep wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:49pm:
remember_when64 wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:30pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 5th, 2011 at 2:20pm:
"Surpassed" by WHAT ?


Did you have to ask, now the thread will meander down an experiment in Germany path Sad




Yep, and so it should as the german "experiment" will pave the way for greater developement.

For it to claim that the NBN is 21st century technology shows how out of date it is.




... and that "German experiment used the SAME optic fibre







Then you agree that the optic fibre's potential has yet to be fully realised!!!


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

In fact it is no where near full potential!






26Tbps Record Speed Proves NBN Fibre Longevity

26/05/2011



A 26 terabit per second fibre optic data transmission speed test which smashed the previous 10 terabit broadband speed record set back in 2010
essentially proves the decision was right to use fibre optic cable over other competing technologies
for Australia’s national broadband network construction.


Scientists at Germany’s Karlsruhe Institute of Technology have finally given the Gillard Government and NBN Co chief Mike Quigley something to smile about when they set a new data transmission speed record that could effectively send the equivalent of 200,000 high res images, 400 million phone calls or 700 DVDs across 50km in one second.

This type of technology could perhaps one day transmit similar super fast speeds over distances of 50 to 100km, or even further if amplified, and would act as an excellent transmission method for bandwidth hungry cloud computing, 3D television and high quality teleconferencing services. This is not to mention yet to be invented future virtual reality applications and automation services that we’ll all be using in years to come.


After hearing the news of the record breaking broadband speed test, NBN Co chief technology officer Gary McLaren was believed to have stated that
the respective results indicate the decision to use fibre to 93% of Australia’s population was the right way to go
and that we can now be confident
the NBN Co are implementing the right technology to ensure longevity for a fibre optic broadband network for decades to come



http://broadbandguide.com.au/blogs/2011/05/26tbps-record-speed-proves-nbn-fibre-...



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