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Reply #151 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 9:03pm

stryder wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 5:03pm:

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ccording to the likes of Stryder, Maqqa, LW, the Creep, Cods etc, anyone who does not believe the "Right Mantra", is a leftie/Leftard.

By Perception now

YOU DAMN RIGHT I THINK SO,

There is the left and the right within our political spectrum, Now its very hard to stay on the centre because whatever issue you tend to try and understand youll either swing to the left or to the right viewpoint of the issue

For me its hard for any human being to try and stay politically unbias, because there is tendency of human nature to SWING either to the left or right NO MATTER HOW UNBIAS OR IN YOUR CASE,

REAL

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NOW ITS QUITE OBVIOUS, PERCEPTIONS YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CARBON ISSUE FROM THE LEFTS POINT OF VIEW, AND YOU SUPPORT IT FROM THERE VIEW.

AND YOU GOT THE HIDE TO TELL ME YOU DONT LEAN TO THE LEFT

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YOU TAKE A GOOD READ OF EVERYTHING YOU POSTED ABOUT THE CARBON ISSUE

AND YOU TELL ME IF ITS LEANING ON THE RIGHT OR THE CENTRE,

AND LETS SEE HOW MUCH OF A REALIST YOU REALLY ARE.

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Then why would I have said, on many ocassions, that Labor's Carbon Tax was PRIMARILY a Tax Revenue raiser and that it WILL NOT SOLVE THE CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUE?

Like I said, I tell it as I see it and I don't see it purely from the Right or Left eye, I see things as a whole and over the correct time span!

Btw, whilst I disagree with Labor's Carbon plan and also think very little of the Liberal plan, the Climate Change issue is very real and still requires urgent action, if there is to be any chance of a reasonable life, for future generations.

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Reply #152 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 9:41pm

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Everything in that post of mine is factually accurate, including the start where I said, as I have often done, that both the Right & Left of Politics are into SPIN and neither has any interest in the truth.

You and others, simply turn off & put people into buckets of either Right or Left, that's your problem!

I simply post what I see as factually correct, after researching the issues and you may like to bear in mind that my background is/was some 40 years in the financial sector, mainly insurance with a little banking.

Sometimes, my opinion will happen to co-incide with what you call the Left & sometimes it will co-incide with what you would call the Right, but on all ocassions my opinions are what I understand to be correct, given my indenpendent view on reality, as you may have cause to think on after my next post!

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Well, for starters, the real truth is not something that diehard Liberal or Labor supporters, PR SPIN MASTERS or Politicians, have any remote interest in!

That said, the truth is that the Global Climate is changing, that change is materially affected by human input, as the majority of world scientists agree and the leading edge of that Climate Change is already starting to impact the Australian & Global Economy, via events such as Floods (in OZ & elsewhere), severe hurricanes/cyclones, droughts/heatwaves & more!

However, Climate Change is not the only thing different, there is actually a paradigm change in progress, where a number of factors are coming together, at around the same time, the overall effect of those factors, on the OZ & Global Economy, are adverse and that trend is only just commencing!

By Perceptions Now

LIKE I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS POST OF YOURS LEANS ON, ??? THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT ???

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Reply #153 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 9:49pm

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Well, now that I've had time to contemplate my statements and reviewed the thoughts that you, Maqqa, stryder, the creep & others have put into your comments, I would like to say that my earlier comment of "you are a bona fide idiot", STILL STANDS!

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Actually, you're worse, you are a "mouth piece" for the SPIN MACHINE of a Political Party and the Liberal/CONServatives, at that!!!

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You went out of your way to try and offend myself and other people who believe in the right/conservative side of POLITICS ????

IN YOUR SO CALL REALISM, THERE IS PATTERN OF BIAS MOSTLY AGAINST THE RIGHT AND MOSTLY UNBIAS FOR THE LEFT, DESPITE THE FACT YOU MAY HAVE A GO AT LABOR SOMETIMES COMPARED TO THE LIBERALS WHICH YOU NEARLY HAVE A GO ALL THE TIME,

My Opinion still stands, you lean mostly to the left.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #154 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:00pm hello SHOUTY DOES SHOUTING MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT MORE VALID?
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #155 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:03pm Quote: hello SHOUTY DOES SHOUTING MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT MORE VALID? OH IT DOES, So why dont you do yourself a favour and find a road, stand in the middle, and just stand there.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #156 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:05pm stryder wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:03pm: Quote: hello SHOUTY DOES SHOUTING MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT MORE VALID? OH IT DOES, So why dont you do yourself a favour and find a road, stand in the middle, and just stand there. BUSY OR COUNTRY?
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #157 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:07pm Quote: BUSY OR COUNTRY? Take your pick, couldnt care less.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #158 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:11pm WERE YOU ON Q&A ON MONDAY?
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Reply #159 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:17pm

stryder wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 9:41pm:

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Everything in that post of mine is factually accurate, including the start where I said, as I have often done, that both the Right & Left of Politics are into SPIN and neither has any interest in the truth.

You and others, simply turn off & put people into buckets of either Right or Left, that's your problem!

I simply post what I see as factually correct, after researching the issues and you may like to bear in mind that my background is/was some 40 years in the financial sector, mainly insurance with a little banking.

Sometimes, my opinion will happen to co-incide with what you call the Left & sometimes it will co-incide with what you would call the Right, but on all ocassions my opinions are what I understand to be correct, given my indenpendent view on reality, as you may have cause to think on after my next post!

By Perceptions Now

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Well, for starters, the real truth is not something that diehard Liberal or Labor supporters, PR SPIN MASTERS or Politicians, have any remote interest in!

That said, the truth is that the Global Climate is changing, that change is materially affected by human input, as the majority of world scientists agree and the leading edge of that Climate Change is already starting to impact the Australian & Global Economy, via events such as Floods (in OZ & elsewhere), severe hurricanes/cyclones, droughts/heatwaves & more!

However, Climate Change is not the only thing different, there is actually a paradigm change in progress, where a number of factors are coming together, at around the same time, the overall effect of those factors, on the OZ & Global Economy, are adverse and that trend is only just commencing!

By Perceptions Now

LIKE I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS POST OF YOURS LEANS ON, ??? THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT ???

I've already answered that!

In fact, I answer much more than you lot do and usual provide reasons and back up information, which you lot usually don't.

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Reply #160 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:29pm

stryder wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 9:49pm:

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Well, now that I've had time to contemplate my statements and reviewed the thoughts that you, Maqqa, stryder, the creep & others have put into your comments, I would like to say that my earlier comment of "you are a bona fide idiot", STILL STANDS!

by Perceptions Now

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Actually, you're worse, you are a "mouth piece" for the SPIN MACHINE of a Political Party and the Liberal/CONServatives, at that!!!

by Perceptions Now

You went out of your way to try and offend myself and other people who believe in the right/conservative side of POLITICS ????

IN YOUR SO CALL REALISM, THERE IS PATTERN OF BIAS MOSTLY AGAINST THE RIGHT AND MOSTLY UNBIAS FOR THE LEFT, DESPITE THE FACT YOU MAY HAVE A GO AT LABOR SOMETIMES COMPARED TO THE LIBERALS WHICH YOU NEARLY HAVE A GO ALL THE TIME,

My Opinion still stands, you lean mostly to the left.

To be honest, which is something lacking in some comments on these boards, I find some of what you & some others on the "Right" side of Politics say, is self-serving, obnoxious, sanctimonious, claptrap, as well as being just plain wrong, even more so than some comments that come from those on the Left.

In terms of you saying, that I nearly always have a go at the Liberals, that may well be correct, because I think the Liberal policies, on balance, are even worse than Labors and theirs are not flash, which I clearly say, also.

Finally, you are entitled to your opinions, as am I to mine.

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #161 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:30pm stryder wrote on Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:03pm: Quote: hello SHOUTY DOES SHOUTING MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT MORE VALID? OH IT DOES, So why dont you do yourself a favour and find a road, stand in the middle, and just stand there. Talking about being offensive?
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Reply #162 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:33pm

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In terms of you saying, that I nearly always have a go at the Liberals, that may well be correct, because I think the Liberal policies, on balance, are even worse than Labors and theirs are not flash, which I clearly say, also.

THERE YOU GO YOUR MOSTLY BIAS AGAINST THE RIGHT.

NOW WAS THAT SOOO BAD TO ADMIT.????

I REST MY CASE

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #163 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:35pm WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOUTY and BOLD
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #164 - Jun 14^th, 2011 at 10:38pm Quote: WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOUTY and BOLD By dsmithy Quote: Talking about being offensive? by Perceptions Now Well she wanted to have a little dig at me first, I RESPONDED IN KIND, , JUST LIKE I DID WITH YOU. !
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