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Reply #60 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 12:48pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 12:34pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 12:26pm:

Come back with better than 'what riots'. Your pure denial of anything other than what is in your head does not do you justice.

What on Earth are you talking about? Shocked

What centrally coordinated global; riots ARE you talking about? Have I missed something in the news his morning?

One at a time for you then.

Have you seen the riots accross the globe?

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #61 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 1:10pm [quote author=smcgill link=1307788448/60#60 date=130784690 One at a time for you then. Have you seen the riots accross the globe? [/quote] No. I have no idea what you are talking about. Source, or it didn't happen.
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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #62 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 4:58pm Does ANYONE know what proglol is on about with these riots?
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Reply #63 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 9:42pm

stryder wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 8:52pm:

MOST AUSTRALIANS DONT LIKE THE LOOK, THE SOUND AND SMELL OF THIS NEW TAX,

But unfortunatley we are with a silly unpleasant looking prime minister who seems to LISTEN TO SCIENTISTS AND ACTIVISTS THAN THE SILENT MAJORITY .

John Howard also listened to the science.....Tony Abbott is all on his own when it comes to political leaders who accept fiction over science!!!

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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #64 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 9:49pm Quote: John Howard also listened to the science.....Tony Abbott is all on his own when it comes to political leaders who accept fiction over science!!! REALLY EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF CONCRETE IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE, ?????
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Reply #65 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 9:59pm

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 9:49pm:

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John Howard also listened to the science.....Tony Abbott is all on his own when it comes to political leaders who accept fiction over science!!!

REALLY EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF CONCRETE IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE, ?????

Do you deny that CO2 levels have increased by almost 40% in the last 200 years?

Do you deny that CO2 traps heat?

Do you deny that the planet is accumulating heat?

Which of the facts to you dispute?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #66 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:26pm

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Do you deny that CO2 levels have increased by almost 40% in the last 200 years?

Do you deny that CO2 traps heat?

Do you deny that the planet is accumulating heat?

THE FACT IS

THERE IS NOOOO CONCRETE, IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE OF MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE ANYWHERE BECAUSE ITS MOSTLY RESTRICTED TO EARTH BASED OBSERVATIONS

AND WHEN YOUR ASKING A PEOPLE THAT YOU MAY PAY EXTRA FOR THIS MASSIVE NEW TAX, YOU ARE GOING TO GET A MAJORITY OF A PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SUSPICIOUS AND KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS AFTER MORE TAX DOLLARS THAN EXPECTING A CLIMATE FIX.

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Reply #67 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:28pm

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Do you deny that CO2 levels have increased by almost 40% in the last 200 years?

Do you deny that CO2 traps heat?

Do you deny that the planet is accumulating heat?

Which of the facts to you dispute?

What do you think ??

Do you think these are good staring points for MANIPULATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS, ???

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Reply #68 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:35pm

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

THE FACT IS

THERE IS NOOOO CONCRETE, IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE OF MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE ANYWHERE BECAUSE ITS MOSTLY RESTRICTED TO EARTH BASED OBSERVATIONS

Yes there is.

CO2 levels have risen

CO2 traps heat

The planet is accumulating heat.

QED

Disprove any of those facts or STFu.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

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Reply #69 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:38pm

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:28pm:

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Do you deny that CO2 levels have increased by almost 40% in the last 200 years?

Do you deny that CO2 traps heat?

Do you deny that the planet is accumulating heat?

Which of the facts to you dispute?

What do you think ??

Do you think these are good staring points for MANIPULATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS, ???

stryder they had a lass on TV during the week saying that her home [small island]which she hadnt been to in a long long time was being swallowed by the ocean..and we see pounding seas.lapping th shore.. we also see the size of said island that acually look like a sand bar..you can see one side of the island from the otherside.. it was as flat as a tack..

of course it will be swallowed by the ocean all in good time along with many before it .. probably in another 1000 years the british isles will also be swallowed up..this tiny island would go there is nothing that will stop it.

but its alright for a news PANIC isnt it..

I see where Cate Blanchett has bought a beach front lot in Vanuatu.right on the front..where the big waves come crashing down.24/7..

must be on the side of the island that wont get swallowed by the ocean.due to Climate Change..and smelly gas works..lol

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Reply #70 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:41pm

Its still just a theory, is just conjecture given POLITICAL WEIGHT,

THERE IS NO ACTUAL CONCRETE EVIDENCE OUT THERE EXCEPT HERSAY FROM MANY SCIENTISTS WHO PASSIONALTEY BELIEVE IN IT AND MAY BE SOME WHO ARE POLTICALLY MOTIVATED ENOUGH TO SEE EVERY EFFORT TO PUSH THIS THEORITICAL SCIENCE FORWARD IN THE HANDS OF POLITICIANS WITH A LEFTIST BENT, AND BEYOND

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Reply #71 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:46pm

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:41pm:

Its still just a theory, is just conjecture given POLITICAL WEIGHT,

A theory, yes, a scientific theory:

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[i]A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.[1]

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THERE IS NO ACTUAL CONCRETE EVIDENCE OUT THERE EXCEPT HERSAY FROM MANY SCIENTISTS WHO PASSIONALTEY BELIEVE IN IT AND MAY BE SOME WHO ARE POLTICALLY MOTIVATED ENOUGH TO SEE EVERY EFFORT TO PUSH THIS THEORITICAL SCIENCE FORWARD IN THE HANDS OF POLITICIANS WITH A LEFTIST BENT, AND BEYOND

That's a lie. Just because you keep repeating something does not make it true.

I put it to you again, do you deny that:

A. Co2 levels are rising?

B. That CO2 traps heat?

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

Simple yes and no answers will be fine.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

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Reply #72 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:02pm

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via astro-surf:

A. Co2 levels are rising?

B. That CO2 traps heat?

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

A. Co2 levels are rising?

The records show that atmospheric CO2 levels are raising from human emissions of CO2.

B. That CO2 traps heat?

Taken by itself and excluding any feedbacks the science says we will get just over one degree celcius for a doubling of atmospheric CO2. The actual discusion is reference the feedbacks..

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

Where ?..

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Reply #73 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:08pm

Flying Binghi wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:02pm:

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via astro-surf:

A. Co2 levels are rising?

B. That CO2 traps heat?

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

A. Co2 levels are rising?

The records show that atmospheric CO2 levels are raising from human emissions of CO2.

One out of three ain't bad.

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B. That CO2 traps heat?

Taken by itself and excluding any feedbacks the science says we will get just over one degree celcius for a doubling of atmospheric CO2. The actual discusion is reference the feedbacks..

Point to me a negative feedback that will negate the damage already done. Point to me a positive feedback that you think isn't a strong as predicted.

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C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

Where ?..

In the atmosphere and in the oceans

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When the Earth is in energy imbalance, with more energy coming in than radiating back out into space, we experience global warming. How do we know if there's an energy imbalance? This can be determined empirically in two ways. Firstly, by using satellites to directly measure the difference between incoming energy from the sun and outgoing radiation from the earth. Secondly, by adding up the energy content of the atmosphere and ocean over time. The newly published paper An observationally based energy balance for the Earth since 1950 (Murphy 2009) does both.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Measuring-Earths-energy-imbalance.html

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Flying Binghi Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 252 Australia Gender:	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #74 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:24pm . Quote: via astro-surf: Point to me a negative feedback that will negate the damage already done. Point to me a positive feedback that you think isn't a strong as predicted. Your the one selling the scam astro-surf. YOU tell me all about them "feedbacks" that back up yer claims.. .
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