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Reply #75 - Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:26pm

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I put it to you again, do you deny that:

A. Co2 levels are rising?

B. That CO2 traps heat?

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

Simple yes and no answers will be fine.

I will play your game if you play mine ??? Astro surf

IS CO2 ONE OF THE SEVEN GASES ESSENTIAL TO LIFE ON EARTH ?

DO PLANTS BREATHE CO2 ?

DOES MAN MADE CO2 CONTRIBUTE TO 3% OF GLOBAL CARBON EMMISSIONS WHILE NATURE CONTRIBUTES 97% OF GLOBAL CARBON EMMSSIONS, ??

NOW REMEMBER JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL BE FINE

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Reply #76 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:03am

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:26pm:

I will play your game if you play mine ??? Astro surf

IS CO2 ONE OF THE SEVEN GASES ESSENTIAL TO LIFE ON EARTH ?

DO PLANTS BREATHE CO2 ?

DOES MAN MADE CO2 CONTRIBUTE TO 3% OF GLOBAL CARBON EMMISSIONS WHILE NATURE CONTRIBUTES 97% OF GLOBAL CARBON EMMSSIONS, ??

NOW REMEMBER JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL BE FINE

Yes to all of them, none of which in any way contradict the science of AGW. Now are you going top answer my questions?

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Reply #77 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:07am

Flying Binghi wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:24pm:

Your the one selling the scam astro-surf. YOU tell me all about them "feedbacks" that back up yer claims..

I'm not the one making 'claims'. I am stating scientific facts, you are disputing them, it's up to you to support WHY you dispute them.

But, since I am on the side of scince, what the hell. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

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Reply #78 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:12am

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via astro-surf:

I'm not the one making 'claims'. I am stating scientific facts, you are disputing them, it's up to you to support WHY you dispute them.

But, since I am on the side of science, what the hell. Here you go:

"I am stating scientific facts"

astro-surf, where are you stating scientific 'facts' ?.. Huh

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Reply #79 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:29am

astro_surf wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:35pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

THE FACT IS

THERE IS NOOOO CONCRETE, IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE OF MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE ANYWHERE BECAUSE ITS MOSTLY RESTRICTED TO EARTH BASED OBSERVATIONS

Yes there is.

CO2 levels have risen

CO2 traps heat

The planet is accumulating heat.

QED

Disprove any of those facts or STFu.

Given that CO2 traps heat and MAN only contributes 3% to the equation

then how does reducing this 3% make any difference

more importantly how does reducing 10% of 1.5% of 3% make any difference?

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #80 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:33am

astro_surf wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:07am:

Flying Binghi wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 11:24pm:

Your the one selling the scam astro-surf. YOU tell me all about them "feedbacks" that back up yer claims..

I'm not the one making 'claims'. I am stating scientific facts, you are disputing them, it's up to you to support WHY you dispute them.

But, since I am on the side of scince, what the hell. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback

3rd paragraph

"Some observed and potential effects of global warming are positive feedbacks, which contribute directly to further global warming"

As I have said - this is an Observational Science at best

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #81 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:39am

same reference from astro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback#Positive

There have been predictions, and some evidence, that global warming might cause loss of carbon from terrestrial ecosystems

That inspires confidence doesn't it?

"PREDICTIONS and SOME EVIDENCE"

next paragraph

"Observations show that soils in England have been losing carbon at the rate of four million tonnes a year for the past 25 years"

"OBSERVATIONS show"

England's land mass is barely 2% the size of the Australian land mass but because it's OBSERVED in England therefore it must be occurring EVERYWHERE else around the global

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #82 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 9:57am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:39am:

same reference from astro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback#Positive

There have been predictions, and some evidence, that global warming might cause loss of carbon from terrestrial ecosystems

That inspires confidence doesn't it?

"PREDICTIONS and SOME EVIDENCE"

next paragraph

"Observations show that soils in England have been losing carbon at the rate of four million tonnes a year for the past 25 years"

"OBSERVATIONS show"

England's land mass is barely 2% the size of the Australian land mass but because it's OBSERVED in England therefore it must be occurring EVERYWHERE else around the global

all this science really has a chrystal ball feel about it dont you think?...

maybe that why us skeptics..are skeptic after all..lol.

I read my horoscope all the time...if I dont like its predictions I read someone else..

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Reply #83 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 10:17am

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I put it to you again, do you deny that:

A. Co2 levels are rising?

B. That CO2 traps heat?

C. That the planet is accumulating heat?

Simple yes and no answers will be fine.

By astro surf

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Yes to all of them, none of which in any way contradict the science of AGW. Now are you going top answer my questions?

By Astro surf

Well to be fair to Astro,.

A. Yes B. Yes. C. BIG FAT NO

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Reply #84 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:00am

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 9:57am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:39am:

same reference from astro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback#Positive

There have been predictions, and some evidence, that global warming might cause loss of carbon from terrestrial ecosystems

That inspires confidence doesn't it?

"PREDICTIONS and SOME EVIDENCE"

next paragraph

"Observations show that soils in England have been losing carbon at the rate of four million tonnes a year for the past 25 years"

"OBSERVATIONS show"

England's land mass is barely 2% the size of the Australian land mass but because it's OBSERVED in England therefore it must be occurring EVERYWHERE else around the global

all this science really has a chrystal ball feel about it dont you think?...

maybe that why us skeptics..are skeptic after all..lol.

I read my horoscope all the time...if I dont like its predictions I read someone else..

Isn't it interesting how a lefty reading that article can absolutely claim it's a scientific fact

while the rest of us reading the same article immediately spot the voodoo science

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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creep Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1881	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #85 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:07am Maqqa wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:00am: Isn't it interesting how a lefty reading that article can absolutely claim it's a scientific fact while the rest of us reading the same article immediately spot the voodoo science Lefties are handicapped maqqa, that is why we shouldn't show them up too much.
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creep Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1881	Re: MANIPILATION OF CLIMATE AND CARBON FEARS. Reply #86 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:09am cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 9:57am: I read my horoscope all the time...if I dont like its predictions I read someone else.. LOL
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Reply #87 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:42am

creep wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 9:57am:

I read my horoscope all the time...if I dont like its predictions I read someone else..

LOL

do you think astro is having a sleep in this morning comforted in the knowledge this bloody great TAX will fix all this co2.methane,. carbon.dioxide.farting and burping.

and stop the waves and the icemelting. overnight.

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Reply #88 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 8:29am:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:35pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 12^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

THE FACT IS

THERE IS NOOOO CONCRETE, IREFUTABLE AND UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE OF MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE ANYWHERE BECAUSE ITS MOSTLY RESTRICTED TO EARTH BASED OBSERVATIONS

Yes there is.

CO2 levels have risen

CO2 traps heat

The planet is accumulating heat.

QED

Disprove any of those facts or STFu.

Given that CO2 traps heat and MAN only contributes 3% to the equation

then how does reducing this 3% make any difference

more importantly how does reducing 10% of 1.5% of 3% make any difference?

Do you deny the greenhouse effect, Maqqa? How can the planet retain heat if CO2 at 280 ppm DOESN'T retain exactly the level of heat it has been calculated to for well over 150 years? And if it retains that much heat at 280 ppm why WOULDN'T increasing concentrations to 380 ppm or worse still 560 ppm?

Regardless of how small a proportion of the total emissions, that 3% (it's actually more like 2% but why quibble) is the portion that the planet can't naturally absorb and is accumulating in the atmosphere.

You have had this explained to you time and time again yet you STILL deny the facts and keep repeating the same logical fallacy. This is because yiu are a denier-tard.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #89 - Jun 13^th, 2011 at 12:10pm

Maqqa wrote on Jun 13^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

Isn't it interesting how a lefty reading that article can absolutely claim it's a scientific fact

while the rest of us reading the same article immediately spot the voodoo science

Maqqa thinks geology, astronomy, evolution and epidemiology and palaeontology are all voodoo sciences as well. Do you deny plate tectonics, Maqqa? Do you deny cancer research? Do you deny evolution? You sure share a lot of pathological traits with creationist!

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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