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Reply #45 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:01am

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Acts 4:27-KJV reads, "Thy holy child, Jesus." NKJV, NASV and RSV change "holy child" to "holy servant."

Acts 8:9-KJV reads, "bewitched the people." NKJV and NASV change "bewitched" to "astonished." NIV and RSV change "bewitched" to "amazed."

Romans 4:25-KJV reads, "Who was delivered for our offenses and was raised again for our justification." NKJV and NASV change "for" to "because of." (Even the NIV and RSV use the correct word, "for").

Colossians 3:2-KJV reads, "Set your affection on things above." NKJV, NASV, NIV and RSV change "affection" to "mind."

2 Timothy 2:15-KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God." NKJV and NASV change "study" to "be diligent." NIV and RSV change "study" to "do your best."

The above proves my point. in every single case where you complain about the changes in wording the reason is due to the changes in the meaning of english language.

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Reply #46 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

You really, really need to read Romans again and perhaps to make it clearer since it is a heavy book, try a more modern translation. You seem to have a very limited understanding of the Atonement and the fulfillment of the Law of Moses meaning it DOES NOT APPLY any more.

We are not, and can never be, justified by the law.

That is true.

But are you suggesting that God's law, is of no effect ?

Righteousness, is the law.

Isn't it ?

Isaiah 58:1
Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

Isaiah 59:1
Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

Jeremiah 9:1
Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people!
2 Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.
3 And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.
5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.
6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.

Why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

Weren't Jesus disciples, the members of Jesus 'church' ???

Again, why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

FACT;
Jesus was a Torah law teacher.

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Why ???

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

.....or do you go to church on saturday?

Did Jesus keep the Sabbath ?

Or was Jesus a '1st day of the week' guy ?

The purpose of the Sabbath was that it was to be a day of rest and contemplation [meditation].

How do we keep Sunday ?

Exodus 31:13
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Are we a part of a worldly church [which has instituted a new day of worship, Sunday] ?

Or, are we God's children ?

How can we tell ?

"Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep...for it is a sign between me and you"

Sunday worship ???

Matthew 15:3
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Exodus 20:8
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Death Sentence in Tenn. Reply #47 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:31am Just as I thought... you are still stuck in LAW and dont understand that it has been fulfilled and is of NO AFFECT on new convenant christians. and the sabbath is SATURDAY - not sunday. BTW you dont have to copy and past large screeds of scripture to make your case. you can do actually make your point in shorter form!
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Reply #48 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:34am

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Why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

Weren't Jesus disciples, the members of Jesus 'church' ???

Again, why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

This shouldnt be complex but you make it so.

A) Jesus was raised and lived UNDER THE LAW. prior to His death and resurrection the Law was in effect. Therfore He obviously was required to obey the Law and those that followed Him likewise

B) Jesus didnt form a 'church'

C) His death and resurrection FULFILLED the Law and made it of no effect to believers. That is the essence of the New Covenant.

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Reply #50 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:01am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:01am:

Quote:

Acts 4:27-KJV reads, "Thy holy child, Jesus." NKJV, NASV and RSV change "holy child" to "holy servant."

Acts 8:9-KJV reads, "bewitched the people." NKJV and NASV change "bewitched" to "astonished." NIV and RSV change "bewitched" to "amazed."

Romans 4:25-KJV reads, "Who was delivered for our offenses and was raised again for our justification." NKJV and NASV change "for" to "because of." (Even the NIV and RSV use the correct word, "for").

Colossians 3:2-KJV reads, "Set your affection on things above." NKJV, NASV, NIV and RSV change "affection" to "mind."

2 Timothy 2:15-KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God." NKJV and NASV change "study" to "be diligent." NIV and RSV change "study" to "do your best."

The above proves my point. in every single case where you complain about the changes in wording the reason is due to the changes in the meaning of english language.

longweekend58,

You see one thing, and yet, i see something completely different.

Why is that ?

e.g.
Take one of the verse examples above....

2 Timothy 2:15-KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God." NKJV and NASV change "study" to "be diligent." NIV and RSV change "study" to "do your best."

Should we seek to, "Study to shew [ourselves] approved unto God." ???
OR,
Should we merely seek to, "study" to "do [our] best." ???

longweekend58,

I see a world of difference in those two differing forms of words.

The form of words used in the KJV accord perfectly with the sentiment expressed in this following verse;

Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Whereas,
....the form of words used in the NIV and RSV make the seeking of mankind's own accomplishment(s) [his very self justification], the prime importance, and the emphasis.

Can't you see the difference ???

Can't you see the 'humanist' [God hating] influence, which is being expressed in the NIV and RSV form of words being used ???

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Re: Death Sentence in Tenn.
Reply #51 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:06am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:34am:

Quote:

Why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

Weren't Jesus disciples, the members of Jesus 'church' ???

Again, why did Jesus teach his disciples to respect Moses law ???

This shouldnt be complex but you make it so.

A) Jesus was raised and lived UNDER THE LAW. prior to His death and resurrection the Law was in effect. Therfore He obviously was required to obey the Law and those that followed Him likewise

B) Jesus didnt form a 'church'

C) His death and resurrection FULFILLED the Law and made it of no effect to believers. That is the essence of the New Covenant.

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Matthew 18:17
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

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Re: Death Sentence in Tenn.
Reply #52 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:14am

Yadda wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:01am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:01am:

Quote:

Acts 4:27-KJV reads, "Thy holy child, Jesus." NKJV, NASV and RSV change "holy child" to "holy servant."

Acts 8:9-KJV reads, "bewitched the people." NKJV and NASV change "bewitched" to "astonished." NIV and RSV change "bewitched" to "amazed."

Romans 4:25-KJV reads, "Who was delivered for our offenses and was raised again for our justification." NKJV and NASV change "for" to "because of." (Even the NIV and RSV use the correct word, "for").

Colossians 3:2-KJV reads, "Set your affection on things above." NKJV, NASV, NIV and RSV change "affection" to "mind."

2 Timothy 2:15-KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God." NKJV and NASV change "study" to "be diligent." NIV and RSV change "study" to "do your best."

The above proves my point. in every single case where you complain about the changes in wording the reason is due to the changes in the meaning of english language.

longweekend58,

You see one thing, and yet, i see something completely different.

Why is that ?

e.g.
Take one of the verse examples above....

2 Timothy 2:15-KJV reads, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God." NKJV and NASV change "study" to "be diligent." NIV and RSV change "study" to "do your best."

Should we seek to, "Study to shew [ourselves] approved unto God." ???
OR,
Should we merely seek to, "study" to "do [our] best." ???

longweekend58,

I see a world of difference in those two differing forms of words.

The form of words used in the KJV accord perfectly with the sentiment expressed in this following verse;

Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Whereas,
....the form of words used in the NIV and RSV make the seeking of mankind's own accomplishment(s) [his very self justification], the prime importance, and the emphasis.

Can't you see the difference ???

Can't you see the 'humanist' [God hating] influence, which is being expressed in the NIV and RSV form of words being used ???

Im not going to continue debating this with you, Yadda. as an SDA you have a deeply flawed understanding of the new covenent and your uncritical use of the KJV and your rather ridiculous statement about 'God-hating' translators means your mind is closed. it is the nature of a cult to presume evil-intent on anyone that challenges their beliefs. and oddly enough, it is a very very common attribute of cults to demand the use of the KJV exclusively. The reasons is that the KJVs language is difficult to understand nowadays and thus is much easier to be misinterpreted and for false doctrine to be taught to the (unfortunately) uncritical masses.

Enjoy 'church' on saturday. the rest of us have been freed from the condemnation of the Law and moved into the New Convenant which Jesus bought with His blood and which includes freedom from the law of the sabbath.

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Reply #53 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:15am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:36am:

You are SDA.... of course. it all makes sense now!

Because i respect scripture.

Because i seek guidance in my journey, from scripture.

Because scripture confirms that we should keep the Sabbath, you are sure, that i am a Seventh Day Adventist ?

Sorry, wrong.

I do not have an association with that church.

And, i have never had an association with that church.

I am merely someone who seeks guidance in my journey, from God's word.

And i DO look upon God's word as something very, very, special.

That is my grievous 'fault' longweekend58 . Grin

Do you read the bible often longweekend58 ???

"The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible."

Dwight L. Moody (American Evangelist, 1837-1899)

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Reply #54 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:32am

Yadda wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 9:36am:

You are SDA.... of course. it all makes sense now!

Because i respect scripture.

Because i seek guidance in my journey, from scripture.

Because scripture confirms that we should keep the Sabbath, you are sure, that i am a Seventh Day Adventist ?

Sorry, wrong.

I do not have an association with that church.

And, i have never had an association with that church.

I am merely someone who seeks guidance in my journey, from God's word.

And i DO look upon God's word as something very, very, special.

That is my grievous 'fault' longweekend58 . Grin

Do you read the bible often longweekend58 ???

"The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible."

Dwight L. Moody (American Evangelist, 1837-1899)

so where do you go to church? what denomination? and just to avoid being silly, dont assume someone with a different viewpoint to you doesnt read the Bible. I read it daily. NKJV actually.

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Reply #55 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:08am

As a baby, i was christened as an Anglican.

Many years ago [as i was forming my beliefs], i tried a number of churches.

But i was a bible student even then, and i 'didn't fit'.

The best way to describe myself today, would be to say that i am non-denominational Christian.

But i clearly, i am not a member of your Church, so you can safely categorise me as 'a member of a cult'.

Right ? Grin

Jesus said...
"...thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
Revelation 2:6
Revelation 2:15

Nicolaitans???

'Nicolaitan', refers to those who [Nico] 'rule over' or 'conquer', and [the laity] 'the people'.

Jesus in Revelation, and, in the Gospels, said that he hated those hypocrites, who use the authority of 'religion' [a false, worldly 'spirituality'], to rule over men.

Matthew 20:25
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Popes???

'Papa'?

"....And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
"...But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
Matthew 23:1-13

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

But you know all of this longweekend58,
....because you read the Bible daily.

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I am not a member of your Church.

What if i am accepted of God longweekend58, does that count for anything in your Church ?

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

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Hosea 4:1
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

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Reply #56 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:14am

Yadda wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:08am:

As a baby, i was christened as an Anglican.

Many years ago [as i was forming my beliefs], i tried a number of churches.

But i was a bible student even then, and i 'didn't fit'.

The best way to describe myself today, would be to say that i am non-denominational Christian.

But i clearly, i am not a member of your Church, so you can safely categorise me as 'a member of a cult'.

Right ? Grin

Jesus said...
"...thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
Revelation 2:6
Revelation 2:15

Nicolaitans???

'Nicolaitan', refers to those who [Nico] 'rule over' or 'conquer', and [the laity] 'the people'.

Jesus in Revelation, and, in the Gospels, said that he hated those hypocrites, who use the authority of 'religion' [a false, worldly 'spirituality'], to rule over men.

Matthew 20:25
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

Popes???

'Papa'?

"....And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
"...But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
Matthew 23:1-13

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

But you know all of this longweekend58,
....because you read the Bible daily.

+++

I am not a member of your Church.

What if i am accepted of God longweekend58, does that count for anything in your Church ?

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

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Hosea 4:1
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

which means you dont attend a church at all? that is not healthy.

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Reply #57 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:52am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:14am:

which means you dont attend a church at all? that is not healthy.

It is not healthy for Israel [the Jewish people] either, to be shunned and treated as a pariah, a scapegoat, by the world community.

Because men hate Israel [God's people], does that mean that God hates, has forsaken Israel [his people] ???

Romans 11:1
I say then, Hath God cast away his people?....
...
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

If all of the world would come against Israel, and condemn Israel, should i fear what man can do, or should i fear God ???

Psalms 85:8-11

Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:
7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 41:8-14

Isaiah 43:1-7

Isaiah 44:1-8

Isaiah 54:4-8

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Reply #58 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 12:01pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 11:14am:

which means you dont attend a church at all? that is not healthy.

It is not healthy for Israel [the Jewish people] either, to be shunned and treated as a pariah, a scapegoat, by the world community.

Because men hate Israel [God's people], does that mean that God hates, has forsaken Israel [his people] ???

Romans 11:1
I say then, Hath God cast away his people?....
...
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

If all of the world would come against Israel, and condemn Israel, should i fear what man can do, or should i fear God ???

Psalms 85:8-11

Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:
7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 41:8-14

Isaiah 43:1-7

Isaiah 44:1-8

Isaiah 54:4-8

to what question was that an answer? I asked if you attend a church and your response was this off-topic diatribe. when yu dont attend a church you end up losing the plot of Gods continuing work in His people. you should be attending a church.

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Re: Death Sentence in Tenn.
Reply #59 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 12:49pm

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which means you dont attend a church at all? that is not healthy.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

I asked if you attend a church and your response was this off-topic diatribe. when yu dont attend a church you end up losing the plot of Gods continuing work in His people. you should be attending a church.

Why ???

I don't see it as [spiritually] healthy to attend a Christian church, in this age.

I will not join myself, with those who have embraced 'Replacement Theology'.

I will not join myself, with those who declare their hatred for the last remnant of God's covenant people.

I will not join myself, with those who have chosen, to appease a philosophy like ISLAM.

Google;

church "anti israel christians"

Google;

christians, church, israel is the scapegoat

Who are God's watchmen ?

Who are they that call themselves by God's name ??? christ-ians ?

Who are the blind ???

Isaiah 56:10
His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
12 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
.....Isaiah 6:9

John 12:38
That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

If we join ourselves with the wicked, that is, if we ourselves, tolerate what is wicked, we will be judged with the wicked.

Leviticus 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

Deuteronomy 32:8
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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