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Re: Our effect on the Earth is real
Reply #45 - Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:45pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:36pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:33pm:
Well you do.   You advise that the reports produced are wrong and provide us information about how.  You don't question the science, but refute it based on your own knowledge.  I once again ask, what is your education? Shouldn't be hard to answer, Maqqa!  Why are you deferring from answering?

Maybe because it isnt important. I dont know why you guys give us information from dipsh.ts when we give you scientists of any kind, you go into a wave of why they are not qualified to give that information.

Your information you provide is just as much fair game as the information we provide.

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I'm sorry, I haven't seen any information you provide from scientists of any kind. I only see you provide Alan reviews. But... Alan isn't a scientist... is he?

Anyway, why bother with ya? After all, I've given up trying to convert a skeptic! Grin  I only like playing around with Maqqa because it's fun seeing him twist and turn.

If you say I quote Alan Jones, then you must quote donald duck.
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Reply #46 - Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:51pm
 
YOU NOTICE HOW ITS NEVER THE IMPERIALISTS FAULT - ITS NEVER THE SCIENTISTS FAULT...


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ITS NEVER THE FAULT OF BIG BUSINESS, THE MASTER RACE & THE CLASS ENEMY OR THEIR GREED

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ITS NEVER THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT

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ITS NEVER JULIAR DILLARDS FAULT

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ITS NEVER THE LOVELY 7 PRIVILAGED CARBON CATES FAULT

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NO THEY WANT TO ASSIGN BLAME TO YOU, THE CONSUMER, YOU THE ELDERLY OR DISABILITY PENSIONER, YOU THE LOW PAID WORKER, YOU THE POOR, YOU THE TOO UGLY, NOT BLONDE ENOUGH, NOT SMART ENOUGH, NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH, NOT RICH ENOUGH - ITS ALL YOUR FAULT IF YOU BELIEVE THEIR HILLARIOUS LATEST ATTEMPT AT A BLOOD LIBEL AND BLAME ASSIGNMENT ONTO THE WEAKEST LINK.

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Re: Our effect on the Earth is real
Reply #47 - Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:51pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:45pm:
If you say I quote Alan Jones, then you must quote donald duck.


You don't quote ANYONE, I don't think I've ever seen you post a link to support your claims. You just regurgitate generic and long-ago discredited denialist talking points, of the EXACT kind being spewed out by Alan Jones and all of the rest of the shlock-jock media (and that includes your pet News ltd. trollumnists).
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Reply #48 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:06am
 
astro_surf wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:51pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:45pm:
If you say I quote Alan Jones, then you must quote donald duck.


You don't quote ANYONE, I don't think I've ever seen you post a link to support your claims. You just regurgitate generic and long-ago discredited denialist talking points, of the EXACT kind being spewed out by Alan Jones and all of the rest of the shlock-jock media (and that includes your pet News ltd. trollumnists).

You would think with all the stuff you spout, you would remember  if there were references. I guess you just go off looking at your daily links before reading the whole post.
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Reply #49 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:12am
 

i entirely agree that apopulation of some 7 billion, who have chopped down at a complete guess 70 % of the worlds forests  does have a huge effect on the globe.

that's before you throw in pollution, cars, planes, plastics, ...................

there's only a few answers i can see.
none lefties would like
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Reply #50 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:20am
 
There are a few solutions I can think of too - none of which the Imperialists, fascists, nazis, scientists, Drs , the Rich, the master race ect would like.... Cool
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Reply #51 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:39am
 

uhuh, so you have solutions that only the poor losers of the globe will enact.

i rate it 0% chance of eventuating

poor losers are like that
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Reply #52 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:44am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:39am:
uhuh, so you have solutions that only the poor losers of the globe will enact.

i rate it 0% chance of eventuating

poor losers are like that

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Reply #53 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:48am
 
astro_surf wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 8:36pm:
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An old story retold
Why was a really famous geologist writing this when human population was just one third, and CO₂ emissions from burning fossil fuel just 10%, of today’s rates?

For one thing Woodward was aware of the work of another giant of science – the Swedish chemist and Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius whose name is still part of the everyday chemistry vernacular.

Arrhenius demonstrated the greenhouse effect of CO₂ in 1896 estimating that a doubling of atmospheric CO₂ would lead to a temperature rise of 5-6°C. A few years later he settled on a 1.6°C warming, not far off the current consensus of 2-4.5°C.

The scientific basis for the CO₂ greenhouse effect was established over 100 years ago, before Einstein and relativity, before the Curies and radioactivity, and before Fleming and antibiotics, not to mention DNA, quantum mechanics and plate tectonics.

In fact it precedes just about everything we think of as modern science, not to mention Leninism.

In his 1923 book, Sherlock commented “Man’s work is … as worthy of a place in geological text-books as are the actions of the sea or the rivers".

The dawning of a new geological era
It would be no surprise to Sherlock or Woodward that the international geological community is now considering inaugurating a new geological epoch – named the Anthropocene – in recognition of the geological impact of our own species.

While climate sceptics are surely not alone in having a sense of disbelief in the immense scale of human activity, these figures speak for themselves.

We are indeed a geological agent of unprecedented power.

Faced with that stark reality now, it would be folly at best to maintain the fiction that we are too puny to impact the planet – at worst, it is just plain reckless.

Whether we like it or not, for better or for worse, we are already engineering our planet.

This is the fourth part of our series Clearing up the Climate Debate. To read the other instalments, follow the links below:

Part One: Climate change is real: an open letter from the scientific community.

Part Two: The greenhouse effect is real: here’s why.

Part Three: Speaking science to climate policy.



The Graduate Diploma lady is under "Part One" link
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Reply #54 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:53am
 
There's a junkie - alcoholic with a gunshot wound after shaggin a HIV homosexual saying "Whats the problem?" Huh
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Reply #55 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 1:05am
 
The Khmer Rouge correctly assigned blame onto the fascists like Lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers, scientists and professional people in any field including the army.  Some of their methods may have seemed crude, but when you are aware of the ruthlessness of the predator class and what their ideology is and what they are capable of it was perfectly understandable they protect the Earth and humanity from this plague of greed and corruption. Smiley
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Reply #56 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 2:30am
 
Those making the most noise about the Carbon footprint - the scientists ect are the ones most responsible for climate change and AGW - remember its they who have failed - it is they who have the unsustainable solution.

The peasant revolution offers the solution to global carbon emissions and sustainability that the global earth rapists cannot - wilol not.  Their only solution is to tax the poor. Smiley
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Reply #57 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 6:55am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 9:30pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 9:18pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 9:17pm:
The author's claim to fame is a Graduate Diploma in Journalism in 2010 is a bonus

She also used an interesting comments


Today, The Conversation launches a two-week series from the nation’s top minds on the science behind climate change and the efforts of “sceptics” to cloud the debate.

The overwhelming scientific evidence tells us that human greenhouse gas emissions are resulting in climate changes that cannot be explained by natural causes.



Interesting words "cloud the debate"

Then she used the words "human greenhouse gas emissions"

greenhouse gas emissions is all encompassing and not just carbon - it includes

water vapor
carbon dioxide
methane
nitrous oxide
ozone
chlorofluorocarbons

So are we having a Greenhouse Gas tax or Carbon Tax?

If we are going to have a CARBON Tax - then are we looking to have a tax on all the other gases as well?

Water Vapor Tax
Methane Tax (Fart Tax)
Nitrous Oxide Tax (laughing gas tax?)
Ozone Tax
Chlorofluorocarbon Tax

and we are to take this expert advice and summary from a little girl who just graduated with a Grad Dip in Journalism?


Maqqa, what's your education? After all, it seems you are constantly trying to prove climate change is rubbish. So, if we are to listen to you, I think we are at least entitled to know your background? So, what's your education?



Still only a Grad Dip in Journalism trying to give advice about climate change


Admittedly not as qualified as Garnaut being a Professor of Economics though maqqa. Smiley
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Reply #58 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 9:21am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:35pm:
astro_surf wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:32pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:27pm:
Professor of Geology
Is that a climatologist?


Considering he is talking about GEOLOGICAL PROCESSES I hardly see how that is relevant. try reading the article before posting next time, numb nuts.

Well it is good to know that this thread has nothing at all to do with climate change.



did the atom bomb or the hydrogen bomb have any impact on climate.. they were both invented by scientists were they not? also our rockets that we blast off into outer space all born out of science.

I still think the cows have a lot to answer for prog.well its certainly isnt anything I have done so there!!
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Reply #59 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 9:40am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 17th, 2011 at 6:55am:
Admittedly not as qualified as Garnaut being a Professor of Economics though maqqa. Smiley


Yes, a professor of economics discussing how to transform our ECONOMY into a low carbon emission one.

But I guess you're right...only shockjocks and people with "life experience" have the right expertise to work that out, ey? Grin
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