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Reply #15 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:17pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:11pm:

I agree. His positive comments for Gillard, IMO, is his way of revenge, ie doing what she did to him this time last year - pretend that she supported him, then knifing him just days later. I will walk naked from Sydney to Canberra if she is still PM in 2013.

I beg you to take that back. I doubt any would want to see that Sad

No, I will stick by word honey, unlike JuLIAR.

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Reply #16 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:18pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 5:52pm:

quite simple. She dropped to his level. If you look at the polls, it wasn't that he gained on Gillard, it's that she dropped on him. Says quite a lot. Australian people, just like many here you call the left, don't want either and see each "leader" with the same contempt.

True that it's more her dropping than him rising, but that was the one thing that to which the left have been clinging, and they don't even have that anymore.

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Reply #17 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:19pm

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:17pm:

No, I will stick by word honey, unlike JuLIAR.

Well I for one hope that when you do walk naked from Sydney to Canberra the AFP at least drive beside you and cover you up with a shield. For the sake of other unfortunate people who'd be driving in for a relaxing holiday, or for truckies who surely will swerve and cause an accident.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #18 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:11pm:

I agree. His positive comments for Gillard, IMO, is his way of revenge, ie doing what she did to him this time last year - pretend that she supported him, then knifing him just days later. I will walk naked from Sydney to Canberra if she is still PM in 2013.

And now Gillard is getting desperate to gain some public support.
Gillard knows that the Australian people hate Rudd, really hate rudd for what he was like as a Prime Minsiter, and hate Rudd even more since he has been flagrently wasting millions on his world tours which have nothing to do for the betterment of Australia, but all about gaing support for his own UN seat.
SO now Gillard is trying to cash in on that hatred for Rudd by "spilling the beans".

"Why I rolled Kevin Rudd: Prime Minister Julia Gillard"

JULIA Gillard has revealed that she knocked off Kevin Rudd as prime minister because he had no sense of purpose or plan for the future.

As her approval rating sits at a record low amid renewed speculation about her leadership, Ms Gillard indicated it was Mr Rudd's political paralysis, rather than poor opinion polls, that led her to make the biggest decision of her life.

Speaking ahead of the first anniversary of Mr Rudd's dramatic overthrow, Ms Gillard gave the Herald Sun a rare insight as to why she toppled her leader.

"We had lost a sense of purpose and plan for the future," she said.

"We didn't have a clear plan as to how we were going to deal with a set of difficult questions or a clear plan generally about where the Government was driving towards.

"What I've done as Prime Minister is inject that sense of clarity of purpose."
Ms Gillard approaches Friday's anniversary with her personal approval rating in Newspoll at 30 per cent as she prepares to release the controversial carbon tax package in the next few weeks.

She warned that poll numbers might not lift until after the tax begins in July next year and anxious voters "live it" and see the effect of the whole package and compensation on their daily life.

Labor's primary vote is at its second worst level of 31 per cent. The worst was 30 per cent in March.

Mr Rudd's numbers were never that low and there have been rumblings this week that he wants to return to the leadership, although his support in the caucus is said to be barely 11 votes out of 100.

Mr Rudd yesterday rejected as "just a fabrication" reports that he and Ms Gillard had a screaming match on Thursday and denied he wanted to be PM again.

"Everyone needs to pop a Mogadon here. The answer to your question is no," he told ABC TV.

Appearing on The Circle on Channel 10, he said he was not after Ms Gillard's job and she would lead Labor to the next election.

On the day she became PM, Ms Gillard said Labor was a good government that had "lost its way" and she specifically named the super profits mining tax, asylum seeker policy and climate change as the three problem issues.

A year later all three issues continue to be problems for the Government.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Mr Rudd should feel "ripped off".

"The change from Rudd to Gillard has been like Burke handing over to Wills. The Government is now more lost than ever."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/why-i-rolled-kevin-rudd-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fn7x8me2-1226077339474

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #19 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:18pm:

True that it's more her dropping than him rising, but that was the one thing that to which the left have been clinging, and they don't even have that anymore.

Some of the left, perhaps. But I'm more concerned about the fact that she is dropping and he isn't rising, and their approval ratings are virtually the same. Just goes to show that the current standing in our political landscape is that the majority don't want either. So nothing to be happy about.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #20 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:40pm

creep wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:11pm:

I agree. His positive comments for Gillard, IMO, is his way of revenge, ie doing what she did to him this time last year - pretend that she supported him, then knifing him just days later. I will walk naked from Sydney to Canberra if she is still PM in 2013.

And now Gillard is getting desperate to gain some public support.
Gillard knows that the Australian people hate Rudd, really hate rudd for what he was like as a Prime Minsiter, and hate Rudd even more since he has been flagrently wasting millions on his world tours which have nothing to do for the betterment of Australia, but all about gaing support for his own UN seat.
SO now Gillard is trying to cash in on that hatred for Rudd by "spilling the beans".

"Why I rolled Kevin Rudd: Prime Minister Julia Gillard"

JULIA Gillard has revealed that she knocked off Kevin Rudd as prime minister because he had no sense of purpose or plan for the future.

As her approval rating sits at a record low amid renewed speculation about her leadership, Ms Gillard indicated it was Mr Rudd's political paralysis, rather than poor opinion polls, that led her to make the biggest decision of her life.

Speaking ahead of the first anniversary of Mr Rudd's dramatic overthrow, Ms Gillard gave the Herald Sun a rare insight as to why she toppled her leader.

"We had lost a sense of purpose and plan for the future," she said.

"We didn't have a clear plan as to how we were going to deal with a set of difficult questions or a clear plan generally about where the Government was driving towards.

"What I've done as Prime Minister is inject that sense of clarity of purpose."
Ms Gillard approaches Friday's anniversary with her personal approval rating in Newspoll at 30 per cent as she prepares to release the controversial carbon tax package in the next few weeks.

She warned that poll numbers might not lift until after the tax begins in July next year and anxious voters "live it" and see the effect of the whole package and compensation on their daily life.

Labor's primary vote is at its second worst level of 31 per cent. The worst was 30 per cent in March.

Mr Rudd's numbers were never that low and there have been rumblings this week that he wants to return to the leadership, although his support in the caucus is said to be barely 11 votes out of 100.

Mr Rudd yesterday rejected as "just a fabrication" reports that he and Ms Gillard had a screaming match on Thursday and denied he wanted to be PM again.

"Everyone needs to pop a Mogadon here. The answer to your question is no," he told ABC TV.

Appearing on The Circle on Channel 10, he said he was not after Ms Gillard's job and she would lead Labor to the next election.

On the day she became PM, Ms Gillard said Labor was a good government that had "lost its way" and she specifically named the super profits mining tax, asylum seeker policy and climate change as the three problem issues.

A year later all three issues continue to be problems for the Government.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Mr Rudd should feel "ripped off".

"The change from Rudd to Gillard has been like Burke handing over to Wills. The Government is now more lost than ever."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/why-i-rolled-kevin-rudd-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fn7x8me2-1226077339474

creep, her desperation and patheticness (yes, I know that that's not a word) really know no bonds, do they? She just continues to sink and sink and sink. Everyone was predicting that their primary vote would fall below 30% soon, and alas, it has.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #21 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:40pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:19pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:17pm:

No, I will stick by word honey, unlike JuLIAR.

Well I for one hope that when you do walk naked from Sydney to Canberra the AFP at least drive beside you and cover you up with a shield. For the sake of other unfortunate people who'd be driving in for a relaxing holiday, or for truckies who surely will swerve and cause an accident.

No need, dear, because she won't be there.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #22 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:18pm:

True that it's more her dropping than him rising, but that was the one thing that to which the left have been clinging, and they don't even have that anymore.

Some of the left, perhaps. But I'm more concerned about the fact that she is dropping and he isn't rising, and their approval ratings are virtually the same. Just goes to show that the current standing in our political landscape is that the majority don't want either. So nothing to be happy about.

Decent post. I do have my doubts about Tony Abbott, I must admit. It is worrying that both have far more dissatisfaction than satisfaction, isn't it?

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Reply #23 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:48pm

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:40pm:

creep wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:

And now Gillard is getting desperate to gain some public support.
Gillard knows that the Australian people hate Rudd, really hate rudd for what he was like as a Prime Minsiter, and hate Rudd even more since he has been flagrently wasting millions on his world tours which have nothing to do for the betterment of Australia, but all about gaing support for his own UN seat.
SO now Gillard is trying to cash in on that hatred for Rudd by "spilling the beans".

"Why I rolled Kevin Rudd: Prime Minister Julia Gillard"

JULIA Gillard has revealed that she knocked off Kevin Rudd as prime minister because he had no sense of purpose or plan for the future.

As her approval rating sits at a record low amid renewed speculation about her leadership, Ms Gillard indicated it was Mr Rudd's political paralysis, rather than poor opinion polls, that led her to make the biggest decision of her life.

Speaking ahead of the first anniversary of Mr Rudd's dramatic overthrow, Ms Gillard gave the Herald Sun a rare insight as to why she toppled her leader.

"We had lost a sense of purpose and plan for the future," she said.

"We didn't have a clear plan as to how we were going to deal with a set of difficult questions or a clear plan generally about where the Government was driving towards.

"What I've done as Prime Minister is inject that sense of clarity of purpose."
Ms Gillard approaches Friday's anniversary with her personal approval rating in Newspoll at 30 per cent as she prepares to release the controversial carbon tax package in the next few weeks.

She warned that poll numbers might not lift until after the tax begins in July next year and anxious voters "live it" and see the effect of the whole package and compensation on their daily life.

Labor's primary vote is at its second worst level of 31 per cent. The worst was 30 per cent in March.

Mr Rudd's numbers were never that low and there have been rumblings this week that he wants to return to the leadership, although his support in the caucus is said to be barely 11 votes out of 100.

Mr Rudd yesterday rejected as "just a fabrication" reports that he and Ms Gillard had a screaming match on Thursday and denied he wanted to be PM again.

"Everyone needs to pop a Mogadon here. The answer to your question is no," he told ABC TV.

Appearing on The Circle on Channel 10, he said he was not after Ms Gillard's job and she would lead Labor to the next election.

On the day she became PM, Ms Gillard said Labor was a good government that had "lost its way" and she specifically named the super profits mining tax, asylum seeker policy and climate change as the three problem issues.

A year later all three issues continue to be problems for the Government.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Mr Rudd should feel "ripped off".

"The change from Rudd to Gillard has been like Burke handing over to Wills. The Government is now more lost than ever."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/why-i-rolled-kevin-rudd-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fn7x8me2-1226077339474

creep, her desperation and patheticness (yes, I know that that's not a word) really know no bonds, do they? She just continues to sink and sink and sink. Everyone was predicting that their primary vote would fall below 30% soon, and alas, it has.

Gillards new objective.....to have an approval rating of 10% whilst being PM!

Gillard is right on course to achieve this.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #25 - Jun 18^th, 2011 at 11:07pm

creep wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:48pm:

matty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:40pm:

creep wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:

And now Gillard is getting desperate to gain some public support.
Gillard knows that the Australian people hate Rudd, really hate rudd for what he was like as a Prime Minsiter, and hate Rudd even more since he has been flagrently wasting millions on his world tours which have nothing to do for the betterment of Australia, but all about gaing support for his own UN seat.
SO now Gillard is trying to cash in on that hatred for Rudd by "spilling the beans".

"Why I rolled Kevin Rudd: Prime Minister Julia Gillard"

JULIA Gillard has revealed that she knocked off Kevin Rudd as prime minister because he had no sense of purpose or plan for the future.

As her approval rating sits at a record low amid renewed speculation about her leadership, Ms Gillard indicated it was Mr Rudd's political paralysis, rather than poor opinion polls, that led her to make the biggest decision of her life.

Speaking ahead of the first anniversary of Mr Rudd's dramatic overthrow, Ms Gillard gave the Herald Sun a rare insight as to why she toppled her leader.

"We had lost a sense of purpose and plan for the future," she said.

"We didn't have a clear plan as to how we were going to deal with a set of difficult questions or a clear plan generally about where the Government was driving towards.

"What I've done as Prime Minister is inject that sense of clarity of purpose."
Ms Gillard approaches Friday's anniversary with her personal approval rating in Newspoll at 30 per cent as she prepares to release the controversial carbon tax package in the next few weeks.

She warned that poll numbers might not lift until after the tax begins in July next year and anxious voters "live it" and see the effect of the whole package and compensation on their daily life.

Labor's primary vote is at its second worst level of 31 per cent. The worst was 30 per cent in March.

Mr Rudd's numbers were never that low and there have been rumblings this week that he wants to return to the leadership, although his support in the caucus is said to be barely 11 votes out of 100.

Mr Rudd yesterday rejected as "just a fabrication" reports that he and Ms Gillard had a screaming match on Thursday and denied he wanted to be PM again.

"Everyone needs to pop a Mogadon here. The answer to your question is no," he told ABC TV.

Appearing on The Circle on Channel 10, he said he was not after Ms Gillard's job and she would lead Labor to the next election.

On the day she became PM, Ms Gillard said Labor was a good government that had "lost its way" and she specifically named the super profits mining tax, asylum seeker policy and climate change as the three problem issues.

A year later all three issues continue to be problems for the Government.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Mr Rudd should feel "ripped off".

"The change from Rudd to Gillard has been like Burke handing over to Wills. The Government is now more lost than ever."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/why-i-rolled-kevin-rudd-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fn7x8me2-1226077339474

creep, her desperation and patheticness (yes, I know that that's not a word) really know no bonds, do they? She just continues to sink and sink and sink. Everyone was predicting that their primary vote would fall below 30% soon, and alas, it has.

Gillards new objective.....to have an approval rating of 10% whilst being PM!

Gillard is right on course to achieve this.

I wouldn't be surprised if the primary vote drops below 25%. Who are the 27% still supporting them??

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Reply #27 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 8:51am

Are you a complete fool? Gillard is PM. Abbott is nowhere, can't actually do anything and has to pay for his own publicity flights.

Who's your daddy then? You believe in polls do you? Well, check them out in 18 months time and see who stands where.

You see the public have to listen to 2 more years of Abbott repeating his same small minded drivel and most will know it for what it is once the carbon price is in and working.

You're dreaming, but it's actually a nightmare as you too think Abbott is PM, like he does. Fraid not.

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #28 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 9:03am

olive wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 4:44pm:

creep wrote on Jun 18^th, 2011 at 4:36pm:

Yes, isn't it great

But let the brain dead zombies follow their leader, it's like watching a bunch of lemmings

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I was reading an article that Kevin now can see where he went wrong and has seen the error of his ways. I am sure he is all geared up (despite what he says) for another go at the leadership. He seems to be saying, "Give me another go, if I get the chance I will listen to Caucus, I will listen to the people, I am a changed man".

The Labor Party are sure to be listening to his pleas...... I hope not though....but for goodness sake, who on earth have they got? Combet, Shorten....scraping the bottom of the barrel now....

not at all olive.. dont agree I think his aim is to see her wiped off the face of the ALP..he wants to see her get a flogging at the polls..and join her mate Latham...

he knows Lazarus will not rise again.and I dont think a leopard ever changes its spots and I dont think anyone else does either.

he is wracking up his fqtflyer points and taking her down little by little..

she has no answer to the polls..she has nothing to offer the public.. they can see right through her...shes shallow and ineffectual.

in other words as a PM a complete failure.

and he is enjoying every moment.... I mean he even went on the Circle for gods sake!!!!!!!!!!!!to publicise the 1st anniversary of his assassination.... how far does a Foreign Minister go for petesake?

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Re: What do the left have to say about this?
Reply #29 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:55am

cods wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 9:03am:

not at all olive.. dont agree I think his aim is to see her wiped off the face of the ALP..he wants to see her get a flogging at the polls..and join her mate Latham...

he knows Lazarus will not rise again.and I dont think a leopard ever changes its spots and I dont think anyone else does either.

he is wracking up his fqtflyer points and taking her down little by little..

she has no answer to the polls..she has nothing to offer the public.. they can see right through her...shes shallow and ineffectual.

in other words as a PM a complete failure.

and he is enjoying every moment.... I mean he even went on the Circle for gods sake!!!!!!!!!!!!to publicise the 1st anniversary of his assassination.... how far does a Foreign Minister go for petesake?

As Gillard has been a complete failure as PM and is probably the worst PM in Australia's history with a succession of failures and no achievements whatsoever. Then rather than being a role model for women and young girls/women to strive for it looks much more likely that Gillard is advocating the role that a woman's place is in the home and not in the workforce!

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