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The Greens "You can see it in the weather"
Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:49am

Just saw the Greens advert about climate change, advocating that it is happening because "you can see it in the weather"

MMMMMMMMM, yes we can can't we.
Is that why when we have cold days the global warmists change their tune to saying that cold days are weather and not climate? Yet when we have hot days then that is climate and not weather?

Do the Greens know that our planet is actually cooling?
Or are the Greens in denial about that too.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/

More Co2 is needed not less!

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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather" Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:52am Quote: Just saw the Greens advert about climate change, advocating that it is happening because "you can see it in the weather" , I cannot believe this crap. The Greenies must be under the illusion that the majority of australians are stupid.
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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:53am

stryder wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:52am:

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Just saw the Greens advert about climate change, advocating that it is happening because "you can see it in the weather"

, I cannot believe this crap.

The Greenies must be under the illusion that the majority of australians are stupid.

There is no illusion. 10% of Austrtalians are truelly stupid according to the polls that support the greens.

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather"
Reply #3 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:55am

creep wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

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Do the Greens know that our planet is actually cooling?
Or are the Greens in denial about that too.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-in-the-past-12-months/

More Co2 is needed not less!

You idiot. That article is three years old! Grin

2010 was one of the warmest years on record and ended the warmest decade on record. You really are complete delusional.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #4 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:00am

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:53am:

stryder wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 10:52am:

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Just saw the Greens advert about climate change, advocating that it is happening because "you can see it in the weather"

, I cannot believe this crap.

The Greenies must be under the illusion that the majority of australians are stupid.

There is no illusion. 10% of Austrtalians are truelly stupid according to the polls that support the greens.

Well the greens are stupid we all know that, as are a lot of ALP supporters.

A perfect example was shown above who claims that global cooling is referring to 2008. What the idiot failed to see was that was over a 100 year period.
And then the idiotic footy wanted to compare a 100 years of data with a single year to prove global warming Cheesy

Yes as I said, we all know that the greens are stupid.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather" Reply #5 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:12am astro told us point blank.. that weather has nothing to do with climate.. where have the greens been all this time??? is Al Gore a scientist?????.
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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #6 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:15am

creep wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

Well the greens are stupid we all know that, as are a lot of ALP supporters.

A perfect example was shown above who claims that global cooling is referring to 2008. What the idiot failed to see was that was over a 100 year period.
And then the idiotic footy wanted to compare a 100 years of data with a single year to prove global warming Cheesy

Yes as I said, we all know that the greens are stupid.

You're not very smart are you, you poor boy Roll Eyes

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-[size-15]in-the-past-12-months[/size]/

Where is this "00 years of cooling" then, genius??? Cheesy

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/giss-jan08-520.pngw=640

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #7 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am

astro_surf wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:15am:

creep wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

Well the greens are stupid we all know that, as are a lot of ALP supporters.

A perfect example was shown above who claims that global cooling is referring to 2008. What the idiot failed to see was that was over a 100 year period.
And then the idiotic footy wanted to compare a 100 years of data with a single year to prove global warming Cheesy

Yes as I said, we all know that the greens are stupid.

You're not very smart are you, you poor boy Roll Eyes

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-[size-15]in-the-past-12-months[/size]/

Where is this "00 years of cooling" then, genius??? Cheesy

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/giss-jan08-520.png?w=640

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #8 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:26am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

The tax won't do that at all so you point is redundant. The evidence is quite clear, putting a price on carbon is BY FAR the cheapest way to reduce emissions.

Why do you care, it's not like you live in this country. Shouldn't you be more concerned with California/Englands plans to price carbon?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #9 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:27am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:15am:

creep wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

Well the greens are stupid we all know that, as are a lot of ALP supporters.

A perfect example was shown above who claims that global cooling is referring to 2008. What the idiot failed to see was that was over a 100 year period.
And then the idiotic footy wanted to compare a 100 years of data with a single year to prove global warming Cheesy

Yes as I said, we all know that the greens are stupid.

You're not very smart are you, you poor boy Roll Eyes

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globally-cooler-[size-15]in-the-past-12-months[/size]/

Where is this "00 years of cooling" then, genius??? Cheesy

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/giss-jan08-520.png?w=640

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

especially as a lot of the figures are based on long before electricity or industry was the vogue.

I am a bit sick of hearing what happened millions of years ago or even 50 years if you like..I remember my parents putting a penny in the slot to use electricity...now we take it so much for granted we dont think about how much is used just to use a petrol pump we take it for granted.same with computers...

I am waiting for the day someone tells us its computers that are our biggest problem.. next to cows of course.

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:29am

astro_surf wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:26am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

The tax won't do that at all so you point is redundant. The evidence is quite clear, putting a price on carbon is BY FAR the cheapest way to reduce emissions.

Why do you care, it's not like you live in this country. Shouldn't you be more concerned with California/Englands plans to price carbon?

Pretty sure you haven't read the plans.
The tax will be put on the supplier, who will pass it through the supply chain to the consumer - thus raising the prices.

Thus raising the cost of living.

The Government has already said those of us who earn over $150k will get no compensation.

Is the plan to provide compensation every year for everyone else?

No, don't think so.

The carbon tax is a stupid idea.
Kinda explains why Labor is polling the worst EVER as well.

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #11 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:26am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

The tax won't do that at all so you point is redundant. The evidence is quite clear, putting a price on carbon is BY FAR the cheapest way to reduce emissions.

Why do you care, it's not like you live in this country. Shouldn't you be more concerned with California/Englands plans to price carbon?

Pretty sure you haven't read the plans.
The tax will be put on the supplier, who will pass it through the supply chain to the consumer - thus raising the prices.

Thus raising the cost of living.

The Government has already said those of us who earn over $150k will get no compensation.

Is the plan to provide compensation every year for everyone else?

No, don't think so.

The carbon tax is a stupid idea.
Kinda explains why Labor is polling the worst EVER as well.

Andrei, you're posting to a denialist
Wont matter about the facts northe logic, the footy has been kicked about the head so much it is incapable of cpmrehension.

As I posted earlier, it wanted to compare one year to claim global warming with that of a hundred years of global cooling

"Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down. "

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Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather
Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

astro_surf wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:26am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

So what's your answer?

A tax that increases cost of living for everyone?

The tax won't do that at all so you point is redundant. The evidence is quite clear, putting a price on carbon is BY FAR the cheapest way to reduce emissions.

Why do you care, it's not like you live in this country. Shouldn't you be more concerned with California/Englands plans to price carbon?

Pretty sure you haven't read the plans.
The tax will be put on the supplier, who will pass it through the supply chain to the consumer - thus raising the prices.

Thus raising the cost of living.

The Government has already said those of us who earn over $150k will get no compensation.

Is the plan to provide compensation every year for everyone else?

No, don't think so.

The carbon tax is a stupid idea.
Kinda explains why Labor is polling the worst EVER as well.

I've seen the economic modelling and the very small rise in the cost of living will be more than offset by compensation. Indeed, deregulation and infrastructure investment will increase electricity prices FAR more than the carbon tax will, electricity will be going up to $0.30 per kW/h in WA by 2014. Petrol prices fluctuate to a greater degree every week than what the carbon tax will add to the price.

Plus, companies that do pass on costs will ALWAYS be undercut by a more competitive business that will find a way of providing the same service for less (ie. developing novel ways of reducing their carbon footprint), that's capitalism, baby! And individuals can find ways to reduce their carbon footprint and thereby reduce their cost of living. The smart will prosper, as always.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:55am

So what of those of us on over $150k per year?
We should just suck it and see our costs increase and get nothing?

Oh if this is such a good idea -

How come Labor and Julia Gillard in particular are polling the worst levels of support since opinion polling began?
Why have their support dropped like a stone and they face certain defeat in an election?

Good ideas tend to be popular you know.....

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Greens "You can see it in the weather" Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2011 at 11:56am Actually wait, don't tell me, I know .......... "it's all the media's fault"
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