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Reply #15 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:14pm

Prevailing wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:03pm:

So, they have discovered what we have always known, that all life forms are carbon based composition and armed with this proof they can accuse us of being a biological infection they must save the Earth from through taxation...Good luck with that Adolf Hitler.

But what are you going to do you Nazi basterd when we send our power bills back and seek to have you prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

http://www.elistmania.com/images/articles/147/Original/Adolf_Hitler.jpg Cheesy

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Reply #16 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:38pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:14pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 1:03pm:

So, they have discovered what we have always known, that all life forms are carbon based composition and armed with this proof they can accuse us of being a biological infection they must save the Earth from through taxation...Good luck with that Adolf Hitler.

But what are you going to do you Nazi basterd when we send our power bills back and seek to have you prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

http://www.elistmania.com/images/articles/147/Original/Adolf_Hitler.jpg Cheesy

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Ohhh Smithy...I love those clips....I've seen so many variations on that piece of film....

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: More Sciencists on Conspiracy payroll Reply #17 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 2:04pm Why put themselves up for the humiliation and rejection when this carbon tax has no future?
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Reply #18 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 2:11pm

By the way, can we get some more threads on the environment please?

There are only 9 on this page at the moment.

Is it me or is everyone obsessed with the fking environment?

Did we spend this amount of time in the 1980s and early 1990s obsessing over this bloody topic.

Geeeez, fair do's some of you need to lighten up and just go and enjoy life a bit.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: More Sciencists on Conspiracy payroll Reply #19 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 4:36pm The joke that is known as the IPCC is being taken over by greenpeace and are giving out unsubstanciated reports and making yet more of a mokery of the IPCC. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/16/a-blunder-of-staggering-proportions-by-the...
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Reply #20 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 9:53pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:05am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:58am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:36am:

There is a board for this called 'environment'. That is where all environmentalists hang out.

Does this sort of article detract from your political slant?
Make your life difficult?
This is a direct result of human intervention much like Climate Change which BTW gets about 6 threads a day half of which are started by denialists to dispute scientific findings with mumbo jumbo from a screaming vested interest backed Queen.
You'd like all these difficult to blunt with 3 word statements articles shoved down on an environment board I'm sure but unless Mozzaok decides to move it it STAYS.
Suck it up.

The article does nothing. The article is not political, it is environmental.

You're the ones determined to make AGW a political football, it's a political issue now and we need to highlight the insanity of your position with the reality of the science. Fortunately, with people like creep and prevailing on your side, you guys are doing a pretty good job of that yourselves! Grin

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: More Sciencists on Conspiracy payroll Reply #21 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 9:57pm progressiveslol wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 4:36pm: giving out unsubstanciated reports Unsubstantiated? Really? http://www.springerlink.com/content/nu354g4p6576l238
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Reply #22 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:00pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 2:11pm:

Did we spend this amount of time in the 1980s and early 1990s obsessing over this bloody topic.

If we had of done then things wouldn't be so urgent now and we would have moved into the low-carbon economy at a fraction of what it will cost to now. And we probably wouldn't have committed to even a degree of warming.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #23 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:13am:

You pandering to the drama Queen element on here Smithy?

You're as bad as Nemesis, who sees extremes and conspiracies everywhere these days.

What conspiracy?
I've just posted an article that relies on scientific research to back claims that we are stuffing the oceans even quicker than we thought.
It is others who shout conspiracy about science writing reports for cash, I just thought I'd beat them to it.

Drama Queen please, don't like or believe the article? refute it with facts not name calling.
As for the comparison with Nem, better than some I've seen you compared with. She may be a raving commie but her heart as you well know is in the right place.

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The scientific panel concluded that degeneration in the oceans is happening much faster than has been predicted, and that the combination of factors currently distressing the marine environment is contributing to the precise conditions that have been associated with all major extinctions in the Earth's history.

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well reading that smithy they admit they got it WRONG...

they also admit we had major extinctions long before man arrived..

last week they found another strain of dinosauer..that changed all their thinking about when and where......

now they have a very convenient thing to blame HUMANS..

ok now we sure as hell havent got everything right..no one is denying that...

but I still have yet to read.... what changes this TAX will make to all these problems that mankind is making..

they come up with all thei PANIC..I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans in ten years.. I just do not believe it..

you can you can talk about all the fish disappearing...

but tell us please if you believe that.. how will this TAX stop it happen ig and when will it stop it happening..

and why is your bloody govt taking so long.

to decide that it is happenin g.

and we must spread the PANIC..

yet they cant tell us what when why and how.?

dont forget you have anothe r12 months to wait before ,

if anything happens...lol

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Reply #24 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:22pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 2:11pm:

By the way, can we get some more threads on the environment please?

There are only 9 on this page at the moment.

Is it me or is everyone obsessed with the fking environment?

Did we spend this amount of time in the 1980s and early 1990s obsessing over this bloody topic.

Geeeez, fair do's some of you need to lighten up and just go and enjoy life a bit.

lol... but but but,.,.. its happening and its happening right now...

PANIC PANIC.DANGER DANGER.

so they post stupid videos to make jokes about the marine life disappearing hilarious..

ITS ONLY MACCA THAT obsesses andrei... leave then alone..

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: More Sciencists on Conspiracy payroll Reply #25 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:25pm cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm: I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans That's why we call you a "denier", dear, you deny the evidence
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: More Sciencists on Conspiracy payroll Reply #26 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:43pm astro_surf wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:25pm: cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm: I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans That's why we call you a "denier", dear, you deny the evidence WOW! Is that right??? I have often wondered about that! you are so smart..
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Reply #27 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:08pm

cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:13am:

You pandering to the drama Queen element on here Smithy?

You're as bad as Nemesis, who sees extremes and conspiracies everywhere these days.

What conspiracy?
I've just posted an article that relies on scientific research to back claims that we are stuffing the oceans even quicker than we thought.
It is others who shout conspiracy about science writing reports for cash, I just thought I'd beat them to it.

Drama Queen please, don't like or believe the article? refute it with facts not name calling.
As for the comparison with Nem, better than some I've seen you compared with. She may be a raving commie but her heart as you well know is in the right place.

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The scientific panel concluded that degeneration in the oceans is happening much faster than has been predicted, and that the combination of factors currently distressing the marine environment is contributing to the precise conditions that have been associated with all major extinctions in the Earth's history.

-

well reading that smithy they admit they got it WRONG...

they also admit we had major extinctions long before man arrived..

last week they found another strain of dinosauer..that changed all their thinking about when and where......

now they have a very convenient thing to blame HUMANS..

ok now we sure as hell havent got everything right..no one is denying that...

but I still have yet to read.... what changes this TAX will make to all these problems that mankind is making..

they come up with all thei PANIC..I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans in ten years.. I just do not believe it..

you can you can talk about all the fish disappearing...

but tell us please if you believe that.. how will this TAX stop it happen ig and when will it stop it happening..

and why is your bloody govt taking so long.

to decide that it is happenin g.

and we must spread the PANIC..

yet they cant tell us what when why and how.?

dont forget you have anothe r12 months to wait before ,

if anything happens...lol

I understand your upset about a new tax Cods, but frankly to understand the graviety of the issue you need to move past that.
I think you would know that so I won't waste keystrokes with it.

I'm not happy about the way it's been gone about either, but frankly lets look at BOTH options because both parties have a plan (of sorts) which WILL cost us tax dollars.(Unless of course you think Tony wasn't telling the gospel truth and the Direct Action Plan will disappear upon a winning election night)

Labor -
*Yes a tax, but on industry not you personally
* Extra money in your pocket, it will never be enough but the way they stress it, it has to be more than a token effort
*You, whilst not spoilt for choice can choose how that money is spent throughout the extra costs from Industry.
A decidedly liberal philosphy if you really think about it Wink

*Compensation for hardest hit industries to negate (hopefully) some of the increase to consumers.

Liberal-
*Give Industry a bucket load of tax dollars (with no obligation or at least none voiced so far) to maybe decrease their emissions.
Where is that money to be found? It whilst not directly coming out of your purse will come in the form of reduced services, higher cost for goverment services or perhaps a levy, we don't know.
* Planting trees, great idea but where does the land come from?
Aparently I've heard it will require a bucket load of space, sure there's plenty of space in this country but it's already sparce as far as trees go for a reason.

So theirs your choice in a nutshell
Regardless of
anything you will PAY MORE for the environment so which would you rather.

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Reply #28 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:25pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:08pm:

cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:13am:

You pandering to the drama Queen element on here Smithy?

You're as bad as Nemesis, who sees extremes and conspiracies everywhere these days.

What conspiracy?
I've just posted an article that relies on scientific research to back claims that we are stuffing the oceans even quicker than we thought.
It is others who shout conspiracy about science writing reports for cash, I just thought I'd beat them to it.

Drama Queen please, don't like or believe the article? refute it with facts not name calling.
As for the comparison with Nem, better than some I've seen you compared with. She may be a raving commie but her heart as you well know is in the right place.

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The scientific panel concluded that degeneration in the oceans is happening much faster than has been predicted, and that the combination of factors currently distressing the marine environment is contributing to the precise conditions that have been associated with all major extinctions in the Earth's history.

-

well reading that smithy they admit they got it WRONG...

they also admit we had major extinctions long before man arrived..

last week they found another strain of dinosauer..that changed all their thinking about when and where......

now they have a very convenient thing to blame HUMANS..

ok now we sure as hell havent got everything right..no one is denying that...

but I still have yet to read.... what changes this TAX will make to all these problems that mankind is making..

they come up with all thei PANIC..I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans in ten years.. I just do not believe it..

you can you can talk about all the fish disappearing...

but tell us please if you believe that.. how will this TAX stop it happen ig and when will it stop it happening..

and why is your bloody govt taking so long.

to decide that it is happenin g.

and we must spread the PANIC..

yet they cant tell us what when why and how.?

dont forget you have anothe r12 months to wait before ,

if anything happens...lol

I understand your upset about a new tax Cods, but frankly to understand the graviety of the issue you need to move past that.
I think you would know that so I won't waste keystrokes with it.

I'm not happy about the way it's been gone about either, but frankly lets look at BOTH options because both parties have a plan (of sorts) which WILL cost us tax dollars.(Unless of course you think Tony wasn't telling the gospel truth and the Direct Action Plan will disappear upon a winning election night)

Labor -
*Yes a tax, but on industry not you personally
* Extra money in your pocket, it will never be enough but the way they stress it, it has to be more than a token effort
*You, whilst not spoilt for choice can choose how that money is spent throughout the extra costs from Industry.
A decidedly liberal philosphy if you really think about it Wink

*Compensation for hardest hit industries to negate (hopefully) some of the increase to consumers.

Liberal-
*Give Industry a bucket load of tax dollars (with no obligation or at least none voiced so far) to maybe decrease their emissions.
Where is that money to be found? It whilst not directly coming out of your purse will come in the form of reduced services, higher cost for goverment services or perhaps a levy, we don't know.
* Planting trees, great idea but where does the land come from?
Aparently I've heard it will require a bucket load of space, sure there's plenty of space in this country but it's already sparce as far as trees go for a reason.

So theirs your choice in a nutshell
Regardless of
anything you will PAY MORE for the environment so which would you rather.

yes smithy I get that.... but what I dont get is..

WHAT THE BLOODY HELL THIS TAX WILL DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT

even these scientists dont spell it out what we can expect... and you know it..

they know so much! at least they have convinced you.. so they must be able to say,

well when all industry is using RE..all mines closed..[ which I have noted not one of them has called for].

then we will see such and such happen in such and such time..

smithy I have always said we need TAX we want.. then we have to pay...

this TAX in my mind is just that its another lurk for our world govts to flog the books..

all in name of paranoia and fear.

read you op... we have had 3 major extinctions.. its happened without man being involved... now conveniently its all man made.

and a TAX will stop it all..come on mate..

in the mean time they are still logging the rain forests..we are still allowing them to kill endangered species.. people are still buying ivory and tiger pelts..we still have drugs flying all over the world...

yet we are TAXing the climate and thats going to fix it.....

yeah right!

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Reply #29 - Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:43pm

cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:25pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:08pm:

cods wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 10:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:24am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2011 at 11:13am:

You pandering to the drama Queen element on here Smithy?

You're as bad as Nemesis, who sees extremes and conspiracies everywhere these days.

What conspiracy?
I've just posted an article that relies on scientific research to back claims that we are stuffing the oceans even quicker than we thought.
It is others who shout conspiracy about science writing reports for cash, I just thought I'd beat them to it.

Drama Queen please, don't like or believe the article? refute it with facts not name calling.
As for the comparison with Nem, better than some I've seen you compared with. She may be a raving commie but her heart as you well know is in the right place.

-----------------

The scientific panel concluded that degeneration in the oceans is happening much faster than has been predicted, and that the combination of factors currently distressing the marine environment is contributing to the precise conditions that have been associated with all major extinctions in the Earth's history.

-

well reading that smithy they admit they got it WRONG...

they also admit we had major extinctions long before man arrived..

last week they found another strain of dinosauer..that changed all their thinking about when and where......

now they have a very convenient thing to blame HUMANS..

ok now we sure as hell havent got everything right..no one is denying that...

but I still have yet to read.... what changes this TAX will make to all these problems that mankind is making..

they come up with all thei PANIC..I do not believe we changed the plabet and now the oceans in ten years.. I just do not believe it..

you can you can talk about all the fish disappearing...

but tell us please if you believe that.. how will this TAX stop it happen ig and when will it stop it happening..

and why is your bloody govt taking so long.

to decide that it is happenin g.

and we must spread the PANIC..

yet they cant tell us what when why and how.?

dont forget you have anothe r12 months to wait before ,

if anything happens...lol

I understand your upset about a new tax Cods, but frankly to understand the graviety of the issue you need to move past that.
I think you would know that so I won't waste keystrokes with it.

I'm not happy about the way it's been gone about either, but frankly lets look at BOTH options because both parties have a plan (of sorts) which WILL cost us tax dollars.(Unless of course you think Tony wasn't telling the gospel truth and the Direct Action Plan will disappear upon a winning election night)

Labor -
*Yes a tax, but on industry not you personally
* Extra money in your pocket, it will never be enough but the way they stress it, it has to be more than a token effort
*You, whilst not spoilt for choice can choose how that money is spent throughout the extra costs from Industry.
A decidedly liberal philosphy if you really think about it Wink

*Compensation for hardest hit industries to negate (hopefully) some of the increase to consumers.

Liberal-
*Give Industry a bucket load of tax dollars (with no obligation or at least none voiced so far) to maybe decrease their emissions.
Where is that money to be found? It whilst not directly coming out of your purse will come in the form of reduced services, higher cost for goverment services or perhaps a levy, we don't know.
* Planting trees, great idea but where does the land come from?
Aparently I've heard it will require a bucket load of space, sure there's plenty of space in this country but it's already sparce as far as trees go for a reason.

So theirs your choice in a nutshell
Regardless of
anything you will PAY MORE for the environment so which would you rather.

yes smithy I get that.... but what I dont get is..

WHAT THE BLOODY HELL THIS TAX WILL DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT

even these scientists dont spell it out what we can expect... and you know it..

they know so much! at least they have convinced you.. so they must be able to say,

well when all industry is using RE..all mines closed..[ which I have noted not one of them has called for].

then we will see such and such happen in such and such time..

smithy I have always said we need TAX we want.. then we have to pay...

this TAX in my mind is just that its another lurk for our world govts to flog the books..

all in name of paranoia and fear.

read you op... we have had 3 major extinctions.. its happened without man being involved... now conveniently its all man made.

and a TAX will stop it all..come on mate..

in the mean time they are still logging the rain forests..we are still allowing them to kill endangered species.. people are still buying ivory and tiger pelts..we still have drugs flying all over the world...

yet we are TAXing the climate and thats going to fix it.....

yeah right!

Like I said Cods the science does not matter, it's a fait accompli, you will pay more regardless whether it's right or wrong.It may even just be the lurk you speak of.
So which plan do you like best?

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REBELLION is when you turn off the TV & start educating & thinking for yourself.
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