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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #15 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:53am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:48am:

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:38am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

I think its called debating an issue smithy something Abbott cant do with our current PM... she cant debate only abuse and tell whoppers.oh and point fingers.. sad but true.

I think its about time this subject was debated by our power brokers...pollies..

I think its high time this govt told us the FACTS told us what their plans are. told us what their price is and told us what the affects will be,

dont you??????.. or am I the only one that wants to know whats in store for us?

I told you the facts the other night Cods.
More of our tax dollars are going to be spent on the environment regardless of which party wins the next election.
You never said which plan you preferred.

ok smithy spell out the plans... and I will tell you which I will vote for if I am given the chance..

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #16 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:56am

skippy. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:36am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

Abbott is getting a very sore groin from straddling both sides of the fence in order to hold on to any vote he can get.

LOL...lots of ugly visuals there - including prospect of the rabid budgie smuggler's impending Karmic Wedgie to rival all wedgies!

Time to invest in ear-muffs to stifle the inevitable foul SQUAWKS!

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #17 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:12pm

Verge wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:36am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

And why is Oakeshott going too mate? Isnt he on the committee?

Or was it because they were invited.

Stop in a tea cup crap.

How this is made about Abbott has me stumped, and the headline suggests Abbott is the one making the jibe.

Deceptive stuff from Astro on this occassion.

I agree Verge, Abbott cannot be held accountable for what the loony lord monckton says.
The point that Smithy raises, as to why Abbott and to a lesser extent, Oakeshott, would even want to be seen anywhere near this utterly discredited self promoter, Monckton, is the most pertinent question.
I have always said that I believe Abbott to be playing a totally disingenuous game over the Climate Change issue, where he makes the right noises for the public, that he takes it seriously, and has policy and plans to address it, while at the very same time, he continues to woo the denialists, by opposing any and all actual reforms that would help to mitigate Carbon pollution, and still allows his statement that he believed Climate Change is absolute crap, to lend traction for him amongst the denialist set, who appreciate that he is just paying lip service to any real reform, due to political expediency.

Now the fact that he can manage to fool so many with this duplicitous stance, while at the same time declaring the Prime Minister as being deceitful, for her pre-election Carbon Tax statement, is a dangerously shaky platform to stand on, and sooner or later, his own perceived honesty will have to be questioned over this issue.

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #18 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:15pm

Equitist wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:56am:

skippy. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:36am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

Abbott is getting a very sore groin from straddling both sides of the fence in order to hold on to any vote he can get.

LOL...lots of ugly visuals there - including prospect of the rabid budgie smuggler's impending Karmic Wedgie to rival all wedgies!

Time to invest in ear-muffs to stifle the inevitable foul SQUAWKS!

Shocked

Have you ever been to surf carnival. What sort of swimming trunks do they wear...Hes a volunteer life saver for f u c k sake .

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #19 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:17pm

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:53am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:48am:

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:38am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

I think its called debating an issue smithy something Abbott cant do with our current PM... she cant debate only abuse and tell whoppers.oh and point fingers.. sad but true.

I think its about time this subject was debated by our power brokers...pollies..

I think its high time this govt told us the FACTS told us what their plans are. told us what their price is and told us what the affects will be,

dont you??????.. or am I the only one that wants to know whats in store for us?

I told you the facts the other night Cods.
More of our tax dollars are going to be spent on the environment regardless of which party wins the next election.
You never said which plan you preferred.

ok smithy spell out the plans... and I will tell you which I will vote for if I am given the chance..

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1308614361/15#15

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Labor -
*Yes a tax, but on industry not you personally
* Extra money in your pocket, it will never be enough but the way they stress it, it has to be more than a token effort
*You, whilst not spoilt for choice can choose how that money is spent throughout the extra costs from Industry.
A decidedly liberal philosphy if you really think about it Wink
*Compensation for hardest hit industries to negate (hopefully) some of the increase to consumers.

Liberal-
*Give Industry a bucket load of tax dollars (with no obligation or at least none voiced so far) to maybe decrease their emissions.
Where is that money to be found? It whilst not directly coming out of your purse will come in the form of reduced services, higher cost for goverment services or perhaps a levy, we don't know.
* Planting trees, great idea but where does the land come from?
Aparently I've heard it will require a bucket load of space, sure there's plenty of space in this country but it's already sparce as far as trees go for a reason.

So theirs your choice in a nutshell
Regardless of anything you will PAY MORE for the environment so which would you rather.

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #20 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:17pm

Katter's party in trouble?

June 17, 2011

SUPPORT for Bob Katter's new political party is losing ground with the Queensland MPs he wants to jump on his bandwagon.

In early June, the maverick far north Queensland federal MP called for candidates for Katter's Australian Party, which will stand for agricultural issues at the next Queensland and federal elections.

Independent MP Rob Messenger had been flirting with the idea of joining Mr Katter's new force, describing him as a "a living legend".

But the Burnett MP says despite agreeing with "110 per cent" of the party's policy platform, he won't be joining.

Mr Messenger referred to Mr Katter's anger and said "he is going about things the wrong way".

"He's not behaving in a politically smart or astute way," he said.

"I understand why he's got this anger; he's seen friends die because of deregulation, but he needs to put that anger aside and it's almost as though he wants revenge."

He accused Mr Katter of tarring Queensland independents with the same brush as his federal counterparts Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, who delivered government to Julia Gillard and the Labor Party.

"He's confusing federal independent politics. I can understand the anger he has against Windsor and Oakshott," he said.

"He's executing his policies in a very angry way."

Mr Messenger said the "the game breaker" was a media report that Mr Katter was bullying a state independent MP and a Liberal National Party MP into signing up.

Earlier this week, Mr Katter fired a warning at Maryborough MP Chris Foley and LNP Hervey Bay MP Ted Sorensen to ignore the opportunity to join his party at their peril.

"Those of us who have walked out need to work together and we would plead with the independents to join us," Mr Katter told the Fraser Coast Chronicle this week.

"If not, we're taking you out."

Mr Messenger said his motto was to put "people before political parties".

"Bob's first political act in Queensland state politics has been to threaten two people who I respect and admire," he said.

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http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/06/17/346515_latest-news.html

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #22 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:51pm

Verge wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:36am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:32am:

On a more serious note, Abbott will revel in the publicity.
He'll somehow work the carbon tax into it, perhaps something about extra cost for the gas in the ovens or something along those lines.
But why is he appearing with Monckton anyway?
Doesn't he believe in CC & have a Direct Action Plan to tackle it?
That's what he's been telling us, could he be lying???? Surely not after the hard time his been giving Gillard about being less than honest.

And why is Oakeshott going too mate? Isnt he on the committee?

Or was it because they were invited.

Stop in a tea cup crap.

How this is made about Abbott has me stumped, and the headline suggests Abbott is the one making the jibe.

Deceptive stuff from Astro on this occassion.

Monkton is an idiot. Nobody denies it. But so is Gore at the opposite end of the scale.

But astro-turd's attempt to link this to Abbott was pathetic. no surprise tho!

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe Reply #23 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:54pm If Abbott chooses to lay with dogs he'll end up smelling like one.
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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe Reply #24 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:57pm skippy. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 12:54pm: If Abbott chooses to lay with dogs he'll end up smelling like one. You'd know trooper
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe Reply #25 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:06pm chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:12am: Their is no excuse for using that death symbol at any time, or referring to Garnaut in that way. He stepped over the line this time. CSIRO SAYS WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? CSIRO SAYS WHAT???????????????????????????????????????
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe Reply #26 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm ... wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:17am: Really scraping the bottom of the barrel aren't ya astro? sORRY............. I just can't quite remember what the CSIRO said?? sORRY............. I just can't quite remember what the CSIRO said??
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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #27 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:12pm

astro_surf wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:21am:

ROFL @ Smithy! Grin

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:12am:

Their is no excuse for using that death symbol at any time, or referring to Garnaut in that way.
He stepped over the line this time.

Good for you! Drawing a line in the sand. I respect that.

Chicken is simply not willing to go against the argument put forward by the CSIRO!!

Chicken is simply not willing to go against the argument put forward by the CSIRO!!

Chicken is simply not willing to go against the argument put forward by the CSIRO!!

Chicken is simply not willing to go against the argument put forward by the CSIRO!!

Maybe he's just yellow? Wink

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #28 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:12pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:06pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:12am:

Their is no excuse for using that death symbol at any time, or referring to Garnaut in that way.
He stepped over the line this time.

CSIRO SAYS WHAT???????????????????????????????????????

CSIRO SAYS WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? Cheesy

Garnaut is contemptible Nazi filth as are all Carbon Tax activists.

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Re: Abbott on the spot after Nazi gibe
Reply #29 - Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:14pm

TheScumAtTheTop wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 1:06pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2011 at 11:12am:

Their is no excuse for using that death symbol at any time, or referring to Garnaut in that way.
He stepped over the line this time.

CSIRO SAYS WHAT???????????????????????????????????????

CSIRO SAYS WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? Cheesy

Garnaut is contemptible Nazi filth as are all Carbon Tax activists.

LOL, Afternoon Prev

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