Lestat wrote on Jun 29^th, 2011 at 10:05am:


Yes, it would suit your islamist ideals if Yadda would discontinue posting the truth I would imagine.

Yadda wrote on Jun 29^th, 2011 at 10:12am:


haha...yeah, of course I do Yadda. I love reading your posts.

Who am I to correct your delusional fantasies. lol

Lestat wrote on Jun 29^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:




Lestat,

You speak of a 'Zionist', as though 'Zionist' was a 'dirty' word.



Lestat,

Do you know, that the chief 'Zionist', is the God of Israel ?


Psalms 87:2
The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
3  Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah.


Psalms 137:1
By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
2  We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
3  For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.
4  How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land?
5  If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6  If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
7  Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.


Isaiah 62:1
For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2  And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3  Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4  Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5  For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
6 

I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7  And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth

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Zechariah 12:1
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2  Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.




Lestat,

You have a hatred for 'the Zionists' [i.e. those who love Jerusalem] ???

Listen to what the God of Israel says to those who speak, and boast, against him, the chief Zionist...

Ezekiel 35:10
Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:
11  Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.
12  And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
13  Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.


Moslems....

They are those people who are too proud [in their own heart] to listen to God.

They are those who dare to boast themselves, against God.



Psalms 83:1
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2  For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3  They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4  They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5  For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6  The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7  Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8  Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

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Unfortunately the definition of 'race' is now being defined by political jargon (and left wing jargon at that).
Much like whites are 'christian' and arabs are 'muslim', so in marxist/frankfurt school theory changing ones religion should change ones race. Biologically this cannot be done, however in a political context it can if you believe race to be a 'social construct'. To go against the laws of nature in this way is pure atheism and yet so-called 'liberation christians' do so willingly. In that case they are not christian because their belief is atheistic so their belief is actually atheism.

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Same thing can be said of atheism and yet it seems you do not have a problem with that.

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Taqiyya applies to shiites and not all muslims as a whole.
As for your 2nd 'google' that too also applies to atheists and labor party members for that matter.

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Did I not explain that 'race' is currently and unfortunately defined by politics instead of religion.
Why dont you 'google' racism and the frankfurt school for that matter?
You will find that the frankfurt school invented the term 'racism' and it only applies to whites. It is political capital.

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Zionists claim that Israel is a state for all jews and yet the askhenazi majority treat the sephardim as 2nd class citizens and its falashas and samaritans as garbage and yet would claim 'all jews are equal'.
If the askhenazi went back to azerbaijan where their ancestors originally came from (they are turkic not semites) then maybe this problem would go away.

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Hardly, zionism was founded on a cultural and racial (turanians only) basis. The founders of zionism were decidedly atheist.
The re-establishment of 'israel' can only be done by God (the only one ever).
To believe otherwise goes against prophecy, again another atheist trait.

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So you see no difference between lethal injection and stoning to death? Are you aware of the correct Islamic procedure for stoning people to death? It is not quick and it is not painless.

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So what matters is that the court gets the facts right, not whether the child actually deserves to die such a horrible death? You value procedure over justice?

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Is there no level of degradation that would make you want to interfere to protect the victims of another 'community'? How is this any different from our government interfering in abusive cults?

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Suppose she really did cheat on the dirty old pedophile her parents convinced her to marry? Should she be stoned to death?

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So you really do value procedure over justice? Anything goes, so long as the paperwork is in order?

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You don't have an opinion on destroying democracy and denying people fudnamental human rights? Is this the sort of disinterest it takes to speak out in defense of Islam?

This thread is interesting.  As an agnostic I find it strange that any person can claim to know Gods will, let alone have recieved a complete set of instructions on how ones life should be led. If God exists, (and I do not claim that he doesn't) what makes anyone think that an all powerful entity either wants  or needs your worship or really cares what you do?

leon_the_14 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:




Many ISLAMIC sources, would offer a different opinion.

And perhaps offer even, that your entire response in this forum is just another exposition of the art of Taqiyya, against the naive, and the uninformed.



e.g. #1,
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http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html


e.g. #2,
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http://www.amislam.com/khutoot2.htm#TAQIYYAHileon_the_14 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:



Maybe atheists and labour party members are not always candid in expressing their real views, but i do not know of any who threaten to murder, those who do not believe, what they believe, or threaten to murder those who resist their authority.

Moslems do.


FROM ALLAH'S INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MOSLEMS

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world..."
Koran 5.33



The above wording is pure ISLAMIC sophistry, to justify a 'retaliation' against Allah's enemies.

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According to moslems, those who resist Allah's will, are real terrorists.

While those moslem cadres who murder 'unbelievers' in markets with bombs, are merely doing 'good works', to 'defend' ISLAM.




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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21973518-23109,00.html