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Jul 8th, 2011 at 9:22pm
 
Banana prices:
I have sent this letter to the editor of three papers, none of them would publish it.
Is it offensive or are the banana growers a protected species?

Dear Sir/Madam.
Once Paul Keating mentioned that Australia may become a “Banana Republic”, yet many years later, the average Australian cannot afford to buy bananas.
How much longer is the Australian public going to put up with this exorbitant prices for bananas, while the government will not allow any bananas to be imported to ease the shortage?
Australia imports cherries from the USA, grapes from other countries, what is so special about bananas?
As the floods and the cyclone yasi apparently destroyed 75% of the crop, there is still 25% of the crop left and as the price has more than quadrupled, the banana industry must be collecting the same rewards for the 25% of the crop as it was for the total harvest when the price was in the $3-4 range, that is if the rich are prepared to pay $13 plus for a kilo of bananas.
When I recently commented on the Banana Growers website and pointed this out, I received a nasty reply from them, telling me, if I would like to eat diseased bananas, I asked if the Americans and Europeans all eat diseased bananas, I received no reply.
By the way, in those countries the banana price is around $2-3.
When is the Australian public going to wake up and resent being treated like a bunch of sheep?
Yours truly

Reply to my comment on the banana growers website:

The only reason why prices have gone up is the retail chains eg. Coles and Woolworths are finally buying the bananas from the growers at a reasonable price.  They have changed their ways since the Cyclone.  The prices can’t be blamed on the growers, the supermarkets have always used bananas as a “door special” to pull in the customers.   We’ve spent years trying to change this.



The government won’t allow the imported bananas because they are full of diseases.  Do you want to be poisoned when you eat fruit?



The support of other Australians in times of crisis, whether it be cyclone, floods, earthquakes, is always what gets the victims through the tough times.  Why don’t you stop being selfish and go out and volunteer to make someone’s life a bit easier.



Your claim that Queenslanders do not believe in paying for insurance is absolute rubbish.



Get your facts straight before you abuse companies through their website.  Your comments are appalling.  Shame on you.






Kareen Vitiello

Office Manager | Australian Banana Growers’ Council Inc | Unit 3 South Gate East Commercial Centre 250 Sherwood Road ROCKLEA QLD 4106 | PO Box 309 BRISBANE MARKET QLD 4106 | Tel: 07 3278 4786 | Fax: 07 3278 4938 |    
Mob: 0427 987 499 | Email: kareen.vitiello@abgc.org.au | Web: www.abgc.org.au

My reply to Vitiello:

Dear MsVitiello.

Thank you for your rude E-mail.



The government won’t allow the imported bananas because they are full of diseases.  Do you want to be poisoned when you eat fruit?

Are the Europeans and the Canadians eating poisoned bananas.



You state that from now on we will have to get used to paying a lot more for our bananas, because Woolworth and Coles will have to pay a decent price for bananas.

Tell me please, have the banana growers been losing all the time by growing bananas? How long could they go on doing that?

You either have no idea of commercial reality, or think that I and most others do not understand commercial reality.

I did my share of hard-work in life, even done some sugar cane cutting in Sarina, Queensland, and that by hand, so don’t try to lecture me on doing my bit in helping people in crisis.

Yours truly

Still waiting a response from Vitiello

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Reply #1 - Jul 9th, 2011 at 11:43am
 
I really don't understand their thinking. Would you rather sell all of your product for $4 a kilo, or sell 2% at $13 a kilo, and throw the rest away? There is no reason that we cannot import bananas, it's protectionism. They can rot on the shelves, like they do, I won't pay $3 for a banana, and it looks like others won't either.
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Reply #2 - Jul 9th, 2011 at 11:53am
 
SEAsian bananas taste 100 times better and are way cheaper than the bananas grown here.
In an era when the majority of Australians businesses are exposed to overseas competition there are still lazy inefficient primary producers who have been protected for far to long.
Aussie bananas are bland, tasteless and overpriced, I can never understand how do they produce such a poor product.
Import decent bananas and perhaps our producers will lift their game or grow something they know how to produce.
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Reply #3 - Jul 9th, 2011 at 8:03pm
 
adelcrow; I don't find Australian bananas tasteless, but I'am not prepared to pay $13 a kilo.
What surprises me, that i have not read one letter to the papers about the high prices of bananas, but the editors of the papers would not publish my letter.
The Australian people should be jumping up and down about this and not just put up with it.
I contacted two Ministers who are responsible for imports and exports and they would not even answer my correspondence.
What about you people try and bring this to the attention of the Australian people, because not many people read this forums postings.
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm
 
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm
 
hawil wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.



The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!
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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:25pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
hawil wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.



The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!


The only problem with that pansi, is by the time they shipped the SE Asian bananas to here, and they passed through quarantine...the 'drought' would be over and the local harvest and production would have started.....and the price will have dropped...
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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:25pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
hawil wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.



The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!


The only problem with that pansi, is by the time they shipped the SE Asian bananas to here, and they passed through quarantine...the 'drought' would be over and the local harvest and production would have started.....and the price will have dropped...



True, apparently the new season is about to roll, but they could have the import laws adjusted ready for next time there is a shortage.
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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:38pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
hawil wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.



The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!



You really are fuken clueless aren't you?

The temporary rise in the price of bananas has nothing to do with a monopoly and everything to do with the friggen cyclone we had earlier this year.

And thanks for recommending imported bananas, don't let me see complain next time an industry gets destroyed leaving 1000's of people out of work, because that's what you want in trade for cheap fruit.  Angry

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Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:40pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:38pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:25pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
hawil wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
What is surprising on this forum, that people would argue about things that are almost irrelevant, yet hardly anyone is interested in subjects like banana prices which affects us all.



The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!


The only problem with that pansi, is by the time they shipped the SE Asian bananas to here, and they passed through quarantine...the 'drought' would be over and the local harvest and production would have started.....and the price will have dropped...



True, apparently the new season is about to roll, but they could have the import laws adjusted ready for next time there is a shortage.


Yes they 'could'....providing we're willing to risk potential diseases damaging our production....

Beef's pretty expensive too....lets import mad cow disease to make it cheaper... Grin Grin
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Reply #10 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 2:10pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!



It is. I grow my own Ladyfinger bananas, and they are delicious.  We had a bumper crop this year after the high rainfall.

The argument about disease is an excuse in order to prevent overseas bananas being sold in Australia. It's protectionism. At the same time, I can see the banana growers side. They have done it tough with the cyclones, and if they let overseas bananas into the country, it will kill the local industry. 
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Reply #11 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 2:20pm
 
muso wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 2:10pm:
The argument about disease is an excuse in order to prevent overseas bananas being sold in Australia. It's protectionism. At the same time, I can see the banana growers side. They have done it tough with the cyclones, and if they let overseas bananas into the country, it will kill the local industry.  



If you don't give a sh1t about the livlihoods of thousands of Australians, then fine import diseased asian product, it won't take long before the industry is wiped out.

As was pointed out before, would you be happy to import meat from countries that have BSE (it will def be cheap), or does the personal threat of CJD put you off?

It fuken sh1ts me that people are willing to destroy the lives of others to save a few bucks, but bitch and moan when they're slightly inconvenianced.

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Reply #12 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 2:42pm
 
muso wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 2:10pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 1:15pm:
The topic came up in the lunch room yesterday because someone had a big ripe banana, and we all wondered if it was home grown. Although, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to grow the Cavendish variety in your backyard, or any part of your yard for that matter (in Qld).

She said at $2.50 something, it was better than a chocolate bar. True, but I refuse to feed the banana grower association's monopoly on a fruit that should be within the reaches of all Australians.

Import banana's now!!!!!



It is. I grow my own Ladyfinger bananas, and they are delicious.  We had a bumper crop this year after the high rainfall.

The argument about disease is an excuse in order to prevent overseas bananas being sold in Australia. It's protectionism. At the same time, I can see the banana growers side. They have done it tough with the cyclones, and if they let overseas bananas into the country, it will kill the local industry.  


And what's 'actually' wrong with protectionism???
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Reply #13 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 3:19pm
 
Here's an idea
Don't buy Bananna's buy any of the other in season fruits.
Guess what in about 4 months time the Bananna's will be back at the normal price, you won't have paid exhorbident prices and supported other Australian fruit growers.
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Reply #14 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 5:15pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 3:19pm:
Here's an idea
Don't buy Bananna's buy any of the other in season fruits.
Guess what in about 4 months time the Bananna's will be back at the normal price, you won't have paid exhorbident prices and supported other Australian fruit growers.


Hmmm you mean treat bananas like mangoes???
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