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Reply #30 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

never mind how you feel toward Keating, Gillard should sit down and study his interview it had things she could learn from like a point to make, real conviction in what he said, never take a backward step and control of the interview. Now those were the days of that "unrepresentative swill" imagine how he would let the senate have it now or when the lib's betrayed the CPRS. Seems to be the problem now, the pollies have no go in them and no style when they try.

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Reply #31 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:22pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:37am:

There are no industries apart from coal and there is no future growth for alternative energy ...just ask Abbott coz he reckons Aussies are only good for digging up dirt and exporting it to the Communists Grin

The story of DICK SMITH on the unsustainability of PERPETUAL ECONOMIC GROWTH is about to bite Abbott really badly!!!

There is no counter argument..........

Keating has smashed Tony Abbott and any attempt to struggle for air will bring up Dick Smiths reinforcing argument!!

TONY ABBOTT IS A GONER, END OF!!

JEVONS PARADOX APPLIES TO RENEWABL ENERGY TOO: IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES I.E. PRICING THE NEGATIVE EXTERNALITY OF GHG EMISSIONS!!!

BYE BYE TONY 'GUTLESS' ABBOTT, HELLOE RENEWABLE ENEGY FUTURE!!

OOOOH, I AM LOVING ALL THIS MEDIA HOOHAAA ASWELL....

LOL, TALK ABOUT THE WORLD TURNING! Cheesy

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Reply #32 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:25pm

nairbe wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:20pm:

never mind how you feel toward Keating, Gillard should sit down and study his interview it had things she could learn from like a point to make, real conviction in what he said, never take a backward step and control of the interview. Now those were the days of that "unrepresentative swill" imagine how he would let the senate have it now or when the lib's betrayed the CPRS. Seems to be the problem now, the pollies have no go in them and no style when they try.

DICK SMITHS ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO DESTROY THE LIB VOTERS HOPE LIKE A BUSHFIRE!!!

DICK SMITHS ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO DESTROY THE LIB VOTERS HOPE LIKE A BUSHFIRE!!! Roll Eyes

DICK SMITHS ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO DESTROY THE LIB VOTERS HOPE LIKE A BUSHFIRE!!!

DICK SMITHS ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO DESTROY THE LIB VOTERS HOPE LIKE A BUSHFIRE!!! Roll Eyes

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: '...the Political Judo Chop...' (Keating is back!) Reply #33 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:44pm " Abbotts policy is this, 'make me leader or I'll wreck the place' " Right! Good on ya Paul.
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: '...the Political Judo Chop...' (Keating is back!) Reply #34 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:48pm Im glad Paul Keating pops up every now and then, little of the time HE MAKES SOME SENSE, especially about that idiot Clover Moore, but the majority is all labor tripe and swill, and reminds those voters back in 1996 why they kicked out Paul Keating in the first place
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Reply #35 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:54pm

stryder wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:48pm:

Im glad Paul Keating pops up every now and then, little of the time HE MAKES SOME SENSE, especially about that idiot Clover Moore, but the majority is all labor tripe and swill,

and reminds those voters back in 1996 why they kicked out Paul Keating in the first place

They kicked him out because he lacked humility - they voted in Howard, Keh. Wink

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Reply #36 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:59pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 5:12pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 11:49am:

As for the rest of you ingrates here bitching about Keating, it's just proves what idiots you really are, who broke the unions, it wasn't a Liberal it was keating (wages accord), who allowed you to afford something other than a sh!tty holden, it wasn't a liberal it was Keating(abolishion of tarrifs), you guys have and still reap the rewards of Keating economic vision and his fortitude to see those reforms thru even though he knew most of you inbreds don't look further than the next(or even have money between) paycheck.
Could you imagine anyone other than Keating pushing ahead with the medicine our economy needed, do you even think what our nation would be like without those reforms? No it's me me me and thats why we have Abbott as opposition leader you selfish fvcks, oh and seeing the Carbon tax is going to destroy the economy what about Abbott's 1.5% tax on ANY company who earns over 5 million a year?
That will effect my small business why the bugger should I pay for some women to take it easy for 12 months with her kid when the only 2 women I employ are past child bearing age?

Most of Keatings reforms were What Howard proposed but got booted out before he had a chance. and the reforms since then have continued. Tariff reduction started BEFORE hawke/keating and continued after. Im not saying they werent reformists but it neither started nor finished with them.

Yes we've been over this ground many times.
You seem to think Howard would have pushed them thru no matter the personal or political cost, I do not.
Thankyou Howard for starting the enquiry
Thank you Howard & Keating for implmenting the recommendations.

Any comments on Tony's tax on most business's?

And the MASSIVE question that remains unasked, if we had such strong, forward thinking and confident leaders not that long ago, WTF happened

Abbotts best economic policy at present is to get rid of the carbon tax and Gillards make-shift government. that alone will be a noteworthy economic policy. in the meantime he can do just what rudd di in regards to policy in 2007. nothing until the election campaign.

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: '...the Political Judo Chop...' (Keating is back!) Reply #37 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:02pm Quote: Abbotts best economic policy at present is to get rid of the carbon tax and Gillards make-shift government. Abbott doesn't do economics. He has one policy 'elect me or I'll wreck the place'.
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Reply #38 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:04pm

stryder wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

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Most of Keatings reforms were What Howard proposed but got booted out before he had a chance. and the reforms since then have continued. Tariff reduction started BEFORE hawke/keating and continued after. Im not saying they werent reformists but it neither started nor finished with them.

Ive been stating that case for such a long time before on the yahoo boards.

Then you should be BIG Hawke/Keating fans then shouldnt you?

I mean if Keating was the one to introduce the reforms recommended by the saint johnnie howard then they must be excellent, uncriticiseable ,wonderful , reforms then shouldnt they?

Thanks Mr Keating .

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Reply #39 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:18pm

stryder wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:48pm:

Im glad Paul Keating pops up every now and then, little of the time HE MAKES SOME SENSE, especially about that idiot Clover Moore, but the majority is all labor tripe and swill,

and reminds those voters back in 1996 why they kicked out Paul Keating in the first place

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!! Kiss

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!!

combine paul keating with dick smith and tony 'gutless' abbott is in big trouble!!! Kiss

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Reply #40 - Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:19pm

Grey wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 7:02pm:

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Abbotts best economic policy at present is to get rid of the carbon tax and Gillards make-shift government.

Abbott doesn't do economics. He has one policy 'elect me or I'll wreck the place'.

dick smith knows a lot more than Tony 'gutless' abbott: just ask anyone!

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Reply #42 - Jul 16^th, 2011 at 1:09am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:59pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 5:12pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 11:49am:

As for the rest of you ingrates here bitching about Keating, it's just proves what idiots you really are, who broke the unions, it wasn't a Liberal it was keating (wages accord), who allowed you to afford something other than a sh!tty holden, it wasn't a liberal it was Keating(abolishion of tarrifs), you guys have and still reap the rewards of Keating economic vision and his fortitude to see those reforms thru even though he knew most of you inbreds don't look further than the next(or even have money between) paycheck.
Could you imagine anyone other than Keating pushing ahead with the medicine our economy needed, do you even think what our nation would be like without those reforms? No it's me me me and thats why we have Abbott as opposition leader you selfish fvcks, oh and seeing the Carbon tax is going to destroy the economy what about Abbott's 1.5% tax on ANY company who earns over 5 million a year?
That will effect my small business why the bugger should I pay for some women to take it easy for 12 months with her kid when the only 2 women I employ are past child bearing age?

Most of Keatings reforms were What Howard proposed but got booted out before he had a chance. and the reforms since then have continued. Tariff reduction started BEFORE hawke/keating and continued after. Im not saying they werent reformists but it neither started nor finished with them.

Yes we've been over this ground many times.
You seem to think Howard would have pushed them thru no matter the personal or political cost, I do not.
Thankyou Howard for starting the enquiry
Thank you Howard & Keating for implmenting the recommendations.

Any comments on Tony's tax on most business's?

And the MASSIVE question that remains unasked, if we had such strong, forward thinking and confident leaders not that long ago, WTF happened

Abbotts best economic policy at present is to get rid of the carbon tax and Gillards make-shift government. that alone will be a noteworthy economic policy. in the meantime he can do just what rudd di in regards to policy in 2007. nothing until the election campaign.

DON'T FORGET SLAVES-HAVE-NO-CHOICES!!!

Grin

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Reply #43 - Jul 16^th, 2011 at 7:40pm

stryder wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 6:48pm:

Im glad Paul Keating pops up every now and then, little of the time HE MAKES SOME SENSE, especially about that idiot Clover Moore, but the majority is all labor tripe and swill,

and reminds those voters back in 1996 why they kicked out Paul Keating in the first place

stryder is taking time off from defending the Liberal Party position I see!!!

Cheesy

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