chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 21^st, 2011 at 8:48am:

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Looking for a link to a well known scientist who is a climate change sceptic? I think Prof. Richard Lindzen fits that description. :-..........
Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940, Webster, Massachusetts) is an American atmospheric physicist and Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Lindzen is known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books.[1] He was a lead author of Chapter 7, 'Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks,' of the IPCC Third Assessment Report on climate change. He is a well known skeptic of global warming[2] and critic of what he states are political pressures on climate scientists to conform to what he has called climate alarmism.[3].................

Also please look at the following link:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703939404574567423917025400.html

It is always good to question the science.

As well as the science, there are definitely signs that the world does not want to go down  the Carbon Tax / ETS road. There are serious doubts that a carbon tax will make any difference at all, according to the Wall Street Journal, and they think that Australia's government is strange in going ahead with it.

kingofthecastle wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:16am:


Heres a few:

2011 “Making the international system work for the platinum age of Asian growth”, in S. Armstrong and V. T. Thanh (eds), International Institutions and Asian Development, Routledge Publishing, Abingdon and New York,  pp. 25-48.

2010 “The New Australian Resource Rent Tax: the resources super profits tax”, Insights: Melbourne Business and Economics, Volume 8, November 2010, pp. 11-19.

2010 “Thirty Years of Chinese Reform and Economic Growth” in J. Lin, Y. Yao and H. Wu (eds), Reform and Development in China: What Can China Offer the Developing World, Routledge Publishing, Cornwall, pp. 82-98.

2010 “Macro-Economic Implications of the Turning Point”, China Economic Journal, Volume 3, Number 2, pp. 181-190.

2010 “The Turning Point In Chinese Economic Development: a conceptual framework and new empirical evidence” Chapter 2 in R. Garnaut, J. Golley and L. Song (eds) China: The Next 20 Years of Reform and Development, ANU E Press, Canberra, co-published with the Social Sciences Academic Press (China), pp. 19-38.

2010 “Policy Framework for Transition to a Low-Carbon World Economy”, Asian Economic Policy Review, Volume 5, Issue 1, June 2010, pp. 19-33.

2010 “Climate Change and the Great Crash of 2008” in I. Jubb, P. Holper and W. Cai (eds), Managing Climate Change: Papers from the Greenhouse 2009 Conference, CSIRO Publishing, Victoria, pp. 17-28.

2009 (With Frank Jotzo, Stephen Howes and Peter Sheehan) “The Implications of Rapid Development for Emissions and Climate Change Mitigation”, in D. Helm and C. Hepburn (eds), The Economics and Policy of Climate Change, Oxford University Press, pp. 81-106.

2009 “China’s Place in a World in Crisis”, in R. Garnaut, Ligang Song and Wing Thye Woo (eds), China’s New Place in a World in Crisis, Australian National University E-Press (Canberra), Brookings Institution Press (Washington) and Social Sciences Academic Press (China).

2009   “Economic Society of Australia’s Distinguished Fellow for 2009 Acceptance Speech”, Economic Papers, Vol. 28, No. 3, September, 2009, pp. 184-185.

2009 “Climate Change and Indonesia: in honour of Panglaykim”, Bulletin of
Indonesian Economic Studies, Volume 45, Number 1, pp. 107-116.

2009 “Climate Change and Agricultural Mutation”, in A. G. Brown (editor),
Agriculture in a Changing Climate: the new international research frontier, Record of
a conference conducted by the ATSE Crawford Fund, Parliament House,
Canberra 3 September 2008, Goanna Print, Canberra, pp. 55-59.

2008 (With Frank Jotzo and Stephen Howes) “China’s rapid emissions growth
and global climate change policy”, in L. Song and W. T. Woo (eds) China’s
Dilemma: Economic Growth, The Environment And Climate Change , Asia Pacific
Press, Canberra, pp. 170-189.

2008 “Will Climate Change Bring an End to the Platinum Age?”, Asian-Pacific
Economic Literature, May 2008, Volume 22 Number 1, pp. 1-14.

2008 “Measuring the Immeasurable: the costs and benefits of climate change
mitigation”, Asian-Pacific Economic Literature, November 2008, Volume 22
Number 2, pp. 1-13.

2008 (With Ligang Song and Yang Yao) “Impact and Significance of State-
Owned Enterprise Restructuring in China” in B. M. Fleisher, N. C. Hope,
A. A. Pena (eds) Policy Reform and Chinese Markets: Progress and Challenges,
Edward Elgar Publishing Ltd, Cheltenham, pp. 38-70.

2007 (with David Vines) “Regional Free-Trade Areas: sorting out the tangled
spaghetti”, Oxford Review of Economic Policy, Volume 23, Number 3, 2007,
pp. 508-527.

2007 “Sir John Grenfell Crawford” in J. E. King (editor) A Biographical
Dictionary of Australian and New Zealand Economists, Edward Elgar
Publishing, Cornwall, pp. 74-79.

2007 “One Man’s Contribution”, Quadrant, No. 436 (Vol. LI No. 5) May 2007
pp. 90-91.

2006 “What does this mean for Australia?” in Conference Proceedings, Global
Forces 2006, Australian Strategic Policy Conference, Canberra, pp. 75-77.

2006 “Real Australians in Economics” in B. V. Lal and A. Ley (eds) The Coombs:
A House of Memories, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, The
Australian National University, Canberra, pp. 125-148.

2006 “The Turning Point in China’s Economic Development” in R. Garnaut
and L. Song (eds), The Turning Point in China’s Economic Development, Asia
Pacific Press, The Australian National University, Canberra, pp. 1-11.

2006 (with Yiping Huang) “Continued Rapid Growth and the Turning Point in
China’s Economic Development”, in R. Garnaut and L. Song (eds), The
Turning Point in China’s Economic Development, Asia Pacific Press, The
Australian National University, Canberra, pp. 12-34.

With more here:

http://www.rossgarnaut.com.au/Papers.html

Soren wrote on Jul 21^st, 2011 at 11:29pm:


No. But it sources almost exclusively peer reviewed sources, so if you want to check the source for yourself then you can.

As a result they ordered several studies of the world's climate, the likely changes to come and their probably effect on America and the rest of the world. The studies conclude that the world is entering a difficult period during which major climate change (further cooling) is likely to occur. That is the consensus of the Central intelligence Agency, which highlights the fact that we are overdue for a new ice age. Many climatologists believe that since the 1960s, the world has been slipping towards a new ice age. ....the evidence suggests that change will be a return to a climate that was dominant from the seventeenth century to about 1850. Soviet weatherman Mikhail Budyko believes that 1 2.8F drop in the average global temperature would start glaciers on the march. If the temperature should fall by another 0.7F, it could usher in a ninety-thousand year tyranny if ice and snow.

1975 Newsweek: "The Cooling World," Newsweek. April 28, 1975 By Peter Gwynne

Excerpt: The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. [...] The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth's climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.” [...] Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve.

Professor Stephen Schneider converted from warning of a coming ice age in the 1970s to promoting of man-made global warming fears today. In the 1970s Professor Stephen Schneider was one of the leading voices warning the Earth was going to experience a catastrophic man made ice-age. However he is now a member of the UN IPCC and is a leading advocate warning that the Earth is facing catastrophic global warming. In 1971, Schneider co-authored a paper warning of a man-made “ice age.” See: Rasool S., & Schneider S."Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols - Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate", Science, vol.173, 9 July 1971, p.138-141 – Excerpt: 'The rate of temperature decrease is augmented with increasing aerosol content. An increase by only a factor of 4 in global aerosol background concentration may be sufficient to reduce the surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg. K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease over the whole globe is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age.” Schneider was still promoting the coming “ice age” in 1978. (See: Unearthed 1970's video: Global warming activist Stephen Schneider caught on 1978 TV show 'In Search Of...The Coming Ice Age' – September 20, 2009) By the 1980's, Schneider reversed himself and began touting man-made global warming. See: "The rate of [global warming] change is so fast that I don't hesitate to call it potentially catastrophic for ecosystems,” Schneider said on UK TV in 1990.

1975 New York Times: "Climate Changes Called Ominous,", June 19, 1975 - Harold M. Schmeck, - p. 31. Excerpt: “The most drastic potential change considered in the new report is an abrupt end to the present interglacial period of relative warmth that governed the planet's climate for the past 10,000 years. [...] The report also noted that periods of benign climate comparable to the present are unusual and have existed for about 8 percent of the last 700,000 years.”

1974 New York Times: "Climate Changes Endanger World's Food Output,", August 8, 1974 – Harold M. Schmeck - p. 35. Excerpt: A recent meeting of climate experts in Bonn, West Germany, produced the unanimous conclusion that the change in global weather patterns pose a severe threat to agriculture that could lead to major crop failures and mass starvation. [...] The drop [in global temps] since the 1940s has only been half a degree, but some scientists believe this is enough to trigger changes that could have important effects on the world's weather and agriculture.

1975 New York Times: "Scientists Ask Why World Climate is Changing, Major Cooling May Be Ahead", May 21, 1975 – By Walter Sullivan - Excerpt: Sooner or later a major cooling of the climate is widely considered inevitable. Hints that is may already begun are evident. The drop in mean temperatures since 1950 in the Northern Hemisphere has been sufficient, for example, to shorten Britain's growing season for crops by two weeks.

1971: "The Effect of Atmospheric Aerosols on Climate with Special Reference to Temperature near the Earth's Surface." J. Applied Meteorology 10: 703-14. - Mitchell, J. Murray, Jr.

Mitchell, J. Murray, Jr. (1975). "A Reassessment of Atmospheric Pollution as a Cause of Long-Term Changes of Global Temperature." In Global Effects of Environmental Pollution, edited by S. Fred Singer. Dordrecht: Reidel.

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Australia Institute loses debate

"The dire warnings that the kids at GetUp!, the ALP’s attack dogs, were going to buy 100 seats at the Monckton/Denniss debate and cause some embarrassment for Lord Moncton came to nothing. Were they there? If so they may as well have saved the $7,000 in seating charges and stayed home. The whole hour of the debate at the National Press Club in Canberra turned out to be a rather civilised, well mannered affair.

Richard Denniss from the Australia Institute gave his opening address, Lord Monckton gave his. Then it was questions from the floor. Unfortunately, for those with a gladiatorial instinct there was no verbal biffing or below-the-belt punches. What there was though was the realisation that Richard Denniss had pulled the fight. His only basis premise was that the science was settled. That most unscientific of gods, consensus was his one and only argument. When Monckton stated that it was the challenging of consensus that marked the advancement of science, Denniss ducked the issue.

Instead Denniss called upon things like the need for “global insurance” and compared climate realism with the diagnosis for cancer and its treatment, insinuating that climate realists were like people seeking herbal remedies. This and a whole host of such similes, did nothing to advance the argument of the warmists beyond consensus, consensus, consensus.

His lordship on the other hand moved about the national Press Club forum like, well, to borrow a worn-out phrase from the past, he “danced like a butterfly and stung like a bee”. Monckton offered Facts, examples, logical questions, straight answers. It was no  contest. We had heard..." - http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2011/07/australia-institute-loses...






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barnaby joe wrote on Jul 21^st, 2011 at 3:26pm:


Was this a better place when it was inhabited only by left wing bedwetters then?

Is the reduction of carbon monoxide also being targeted equally to carbon dioxide in the Greens carbon tax?


Urban pollution

Carbon monoxide is a major atmospheric pollutant in some urban areas, chiefly from the exhaust of internal combustion engines (including vehicles, portable and back-up generators, lawn mowers, power washers, etc.), but also from improper burning of various other fuels (including wood, coal, charcoal, oil, paraffin, propane, natural gas, and trash).