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Reply #60 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:12pm
 
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If Obama can get a nobel prize before even doing anything, then anyone is entitled to say anything they like. I say that without even knowing the details of what you are saying, but only because nobel anything is a load of shite these days.


The Nobel Peace prize is a pretty discredited prize at the best of times but when it went to Obama then it lost ALL credibility. the real science prizes however are the pinnacle of scientific recognition.
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Reply #61 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:48pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:01pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 6:22pm:
REPOST ...



buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 6:11pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 6:56pm:
I just heard on the news today that he is NOT a member of the House of Lords and should desist in claiming so Wink






There was also THIS one, from the modern day Walter Mitty ...  




Sorry Lord Monckton
You are a fraud

Hugh Riminton



Let’s leave the argument about climate change for other people and another day.

This is all about your continued claims to be something you are not - the winner of the Nobel Prize.


The third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley was in Canberra yesterday. He held a private audience with Tony Abbott. Then he addressed an adoring audience who were quite happy to join him in an oddly schoolboyish display.

Lord Monckton would bellow “ETS?”. The crowd needed little encouragement to shout back “NO!” And so on.

But the disturbing element was Lord Monckton’s insistence on Truth. If Truth needed further bolstering, he broke into Latin. He invoked everyone from 12th Century Arabic philosophers to Pontius Pilate. “Quid Est Veritas?” asked Lord Monckton.

Quid, indeed.

He left no doubt that his was a life in lonely dedication to Truth - that thing, he says, that never changes no matter how many lies are told.

For him, human-caused global warming is not simply wrong, or bad science. It is a lie. Or in his view, many lies.
So back to his Nobel prize.

For some time - Google “Monckton” and “Nobel Prize” and see for yourself - the great sceptic-in-chief has been passing himself off as a Nobel Laureate.


Cornered last month by the Sydney Morning Herald, he reportedly said it was “a joke, a joke.”

Yet the website of his organisation, the Science and Public Policy Institute - as of yesterday - continues to press the claim.

The site is extremely specific. Lord Monckton “earned the status of Nobel Peace Laureate (through) his contribution to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007.”

That contribution itself is detailed. Furthermore, the website continues, “his Nobel Prize pin…was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York.”

What credible person would not correct the error immediately - if it is indeed an error.

To be sure,
I rang the Nobel Committee that administers the Peace Prize.

Committee secretary Geir Lundestat had never heard of Lord Monckton. I emailed him the Monckton website.

“The claim is ridiculous,” said Lundestat. “He is not a laureate - no way, no way.”


Thousands of people, he said, participated in the program of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which shared the 2007 prize with Al Gore.

“But the organisation won the prize. Not even Dr Rajendra Pachauri (the chair of the IPCC) is an individual laureate.”

No individual, no matter what their involvement with the IPCC, can pass themselves off an a Nobel Laureate.

As for Lord Monckton’s Nobel Prize pin?

“It certainly wasn’t issued by us,” said Lundestat. “We have no pin.”

So now you know. Not that the news will disturb many of those lovers of Truth who pack the halls to hear him speak
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http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/lord-monckton-nobel-prize/









If Obama can get a nobel prize before even doing anything, then anyone is entitled to say anything they like. I say that without even knowing the details of what you are saying, but only because nobel anything is a load of shite these days.





So WHY try and FAKE your way into "the club" ?






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Reply #62 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:55am:
He cherry picks data in isolation which in no way disputes the whole science.....it is done to confuse the issue and draw all climate science into dispute.....Lets give him a hand of applause shall we???

Wink



The Earth is 4.5 Billion years old and the lefties have picked 70 years to convince us of AGW and this is NOT cherry picking?
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Reply #63 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:48pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:01pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 6:22pm:
REPOST ...



buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 6:11pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 6:56pm:
I just heard on the news today that he is NOT a member of the House of Lords and should desist in claiming so Wink






There was also THIS one, from the modern day Walter Mitty ...  




Sorry Lord Monckton
You are a fraud

Hugh Riminton



Let’s leave the argument about climate change for other people and another day.

This is all about your continued claims to be something you are not - the winner of the Nobel Prize.


The third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley was in Canberra yesterday. He held a private audience with Tony Abbott. Then he addressed an adoring audience who were quite happy to join him in an oddly schoolboyish display.

Lord Monckton would bellow “ETS?”. The crowd needed little encouragement to shout back “NO!” And so on.

But the disturbing element was Lord Monckton’s insistence on Truth. If Truth needed further bolstering, he broke into Latin. He invoked everyone from 12th Century Arabic philosophers to Pontius Pilate. “Quid Est Veritas?” asked Lord Monckton.

Quid, indeed.

He left no doubt that his was a life in lonely dedication to Truth - that thing, he says, that never changes no matter how many lies are told.

For him, human-caused global warming is not simply wrong, or bad science. It is a lie. Or in his view, many lies.
So back to his Nobel prize.

For some time - Google “Monckton” and “Nobel Prize” and see for yourself - the great sceptic-in-chief has been passing himself off as a Nobel Laureate.


Cornered last month by the Sydney Morning Herald, he reportedly said it was “a joke, a joke.”

Yet the website of his organisation, the Science and Public Policy Institute - as of yesterday - continues to press the claim.

The site is extremely specific. Lord Monckton “earned the status of Nobel Peace Laureate (through) his contribution to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007.”

That contribution itself is detailed. Furthermore, the website continues, “his Nobel Prize pin…was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York.”

What credible person would not correct the error immediately - if it is indeed an error.

To be sure,
I rang the Nobel Committee that administers the Peace Prize.

Committee secretary Geir Lundestat had never heard of Lord Monckton. I emailed him the Monckton website.

“The claim is ridiculous,” said Lundestat. “He is not a laureate - no way, no way.”


Thousands of people, he said, participated in the program of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which shared the 2007 prize with Al Gore.

“But the organisation won the prize. Not even Dr Rajendra Pachauri (the chair of the IPCC) is an individual laureate.”

No individual, no matter what their involvement with the IPCC, can pass themselves off an a Nobel Laureate.

As for Lord Monckton’s Nobel Prize pin?

“It certainly wasn’t issued by us,” said Lundestat. “We have no pin.”

So now you know. Not that the news will disturb many of those lovers of Truth who pack the halls to hear him speak
.



http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/lord-monckton-nobel-prize/









If Obama can get a nobel prize before even doing anything, then anyone is entitled to say anything they like. I say that without even knowing the details of what you are saying, but only because nobel anything is a load of shite these days.





So WHY try and FAKE your way into "the club" ?







Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.
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Reply #64 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:06pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:19am:
I wouldn't say 'squashed'....Dr Denniss did do quite well..
But going on audience reaction, Lord Monckton did win the day...



Please read Gizmo, you seem like a reasonable man so I think you might be able to take something from it Wink

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2798990.html
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Reply #65 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:08pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm:
Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.


How come Monckton "debates" in front of an uneducated audience instead of, say, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) General Assembly, who recently met in Australia?

I think deep down you already know the answer to that question.
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Reply #66 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:09pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm:
The Earth is 4.5 Billion years old and the lefties have picked 70 years to convince us of AGW and this is NOT cherry picking?


You fail at logic, Maqqa.


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The climate always changes, especially when pushed
If climate is unstable, how does it follow that climate is insensitive to increasing carbon dioxide?

Further, if the climate system is naturally sensitive to a range of different influences, how does that make artificially doubling a (naturally occurring) atmospheric constituent a consequence free action?

The specious reasoning can be placed into context by choosing another example.

“Southern Australia is a fire prone region, and wild fires occurred naturally, long before human occupation of the continent.

“Ergo, humans cannot have any appreciable affect on the incidence or magnitude of modern day fires.”

Clearly, this statement has little credence. Humans have greatly impacted on fire regimes across Australia, for many thousands of years

The climate system does indeed change naturally, on a range of different timescales. However, natural climate variability during human history has been small in comparison to recent observed change and very small in comparison to future, projected changes.

Importantly, natural changes don’t just happen by magic. Natural forces act to push climate in a particular direction. The climate system itself doesn’t care if the push is natural or human in origin, it just feels the push.
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Reply #67 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:09pm
 
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The thread do get away.. Smiley


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More info please perceptions_now    Where do we find these claims of "every scientist" at  NOAA, NASA & the CSIRO ?..
Huh






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Reply #68 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:10pm
 
Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:09pm:
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The thread do get away.. Smiley


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More info please perceptions_now   Where do we find these claims of "every scientist" at  NOAA, NASA & the CSIRO ?..
Huh






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You could start by reading the statements made on the subject by the respective institutions. Not ONE scientific peak body disputes AGW science. Not one.
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Reply #69 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:14pm
 
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via astro_surf:
You could start by reading the statements made on the subject by the respective institutions. Not ONE scientific peak body disputes AGW science. Not one.



Hmmm... how did yer work that out astro_surf ?..
Huh


(edit - the following is not part of the question)


"...Most of the developed countries have institutionalized their greenhouse activity within government agencies devoted specifically to mitigation of global warming. Their budgets are enormous. It is not likely that the public servants who staff them will be receptive to doubts about their reason for existence..."

Via pg. 76, The Climate Caper, Garth Paltridge, atmospheric physicist and former Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research





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Reply #70 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:20pm
 
Dr Dennis does not even answer the questions

Monckton smashed him!
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Reply #71 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:31pm
 
Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:14pm:
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Quote:
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You could start by reading the statements made on the subject by the respective institutions. Not ONE scientific peak body disputes AGW science. Not one.



[coloHmmm... how did yer work that out astro_surf ?.. [/color]Huh



"...Most of the developed countries have institutionalized their greenhouse activity within government agencies devoted specifically to mitigation of global warming. Their budgets are enormous. It is not likely that the public servants who staff them will be receptive to doubts about their reason for existence..."

=]Via pg. 76, The Climate Caper, Garth Paltridge, atmospheric physicist and former Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research[/color]




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How does that contradict anything I just said?
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Reply #72 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:32pm
 
astro_surf wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm:
Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.


How come Monckton "debates" in front of an uneducated audience instead of, say, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) General Assembly, who recently met in Australia?

I think deep down you already know the answer to that question.


????????????
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Reply #73 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:34pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:20pm:
Dr Dennis does not even answer the questions

Monckton smashed him!


LOL! Yah, you just got owned and you don't have the ability to come back with anything other than this. Bottom feeder, that's all you are, a pathetic grub of a bottom feeder! Grin
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Reply #74 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:35pm
 
astro_surf wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 9:32pm:
astro_surf wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 7:57pm:
Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.


How come Monckton "debates" in front of an uneducated audience instead of, say, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) General Assembly, who recently met in Australia?

I think deep down you already know the answer to that question.


????????????




Did Al Gore, Tim Flannery, Garnaut get the same question?
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