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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Jul 20^th, 2011 at 8:51am It was good watching the climate change believer get squashed like a bug.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #1 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:19am I wouldn't say 'squashed'....Dr Denniss did do quite well.. But going on audience reaction, Lord Monckton did win the day...
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #2 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:30am gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:19am: I wouldn't say 'squashed'....Dr Denniss did do quite well.. But going on audience reaction, Lord Monckton did win the day... All Dennis did was analogies and non-scientific speak. Monckton was all scientific. Squashed.
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #3 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:37am I see they finally got someone to come forward to go up against Monckton. He was concerned the other day that he was going to be the only speaker there. Dennis obviously drew the short straw and was the sacrifical lamb. Lord Monckton steamrolled over the top of Dennis as expected.
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20508 Perth Gender:	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #4 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:55am He cherry picks data in isolation which in no way disputes the whole science.....it is done to confuse the issue and draw all climate science into dispute.....Lets give him a hand of applause shall we???
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Reply #5 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:31am

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

He cherry picks data in isolation which in no way disputes the whole science.....it is done to confuse the issue and draw all climate science into dispute.....Lets give him a hand of applause shall we???

Wink

You obviously didn't watch the video then.
Nothing confusing in what Monckton was saying to me.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #6 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:44am I didn't watch the debate, but seeing how the righties are up in arms today I suspect that Dennis was making quite a lot of sense, and in fact it was Monckton with his usual dribble that didn't do as well as would've been hoped by the likes of progressiveslol.
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Reply #7 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:00am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

I didn't watch the debate, but seeing how the righties are up in arms today I suspect that Dennis was making quite a lot of sense, and in fact it was Monckton with his usual dribble that didn't do as well as would've been hoped by the likes of progressiveslol.

With people like you supporting the whole AGW carbon tax caper, it has no hope. 5 years ago anybody could have introduced a cap and trade scheme. Now even its mildest version will cost Gillard the government.

Keep not listening, bozo.

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Reply #8 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:08am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:37am:

I see they finally got someone to come forward to go up against Monckton.
He was concerned the other day that he was going to be the only speaker there.
Dennis obviously drew the short straw and was the sacrifical lamb.
Lord Monckton steamrolled over the top of Dennis as expected.

A classic case of style over substance.

When "Not" lord Mochkton publishs a scientific paper for peer review, then we can take him seriously.

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Reply #9 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:11am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

I didn't watch the debate, but seeing how the righties are up in arms today I suspect that Dennis was making quite a lot of sense, and in fact it was Monckton with his usual dribble that didn't do as well as would've been hoped by the likes of progressiveslol.

With people like you supporting the whole AGW carbon tax caper, it has no hope. 5 years ago anybody could have introduced a cap and trade scheme. Now even its mildest version will cost Gillard the government.

Keep not listening, bozo.

I could say the same to you when it comes to climate scientists. It's easy to deny something without proof then it is to say something is real and provide proof.

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Reply #10 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:16am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:37am:

I see they finally got someone to come forward to go up against Monckton.
He was concerned the other day that he was going to be the only speaker there.
Dennis obviously drew the short straw and was the sacrifical lamb.
Lord Monckton steamrolled over the top of Dennis as expected.

A classic case of style over substance.

When "Not" lord Mochkton publishs a scientific paper for peer review, then we can take him seriously.

ROSS GREGORY GARNAUT. Where is his published scientific paper for peer review?

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Reply #11 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:17am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

I didn't watch the debate, but seeing how the righties are up in arms today I suspect that Dennis was making quite a lot of sense, and in fact it was Monckton with his usual dribble that didn't do as well as would've been hoped by the likes of progressiveslol.

Obviously.

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Reply #12 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:23am

Soren wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:49am:

I didn't watch the debate, but seeing how the righties are up in arms today I suspect that Dennis was making quite a lot of sense, and in fact it was Monckton with his usual dribble that didn't do as well as would've been hoped by the likes of progressiveslol.

With people like you supporting the whole AGW carbon tax caper, it has no hope. 5 years ago anybody could have introduced a cap and trade scheme. Now even its mildest version will cost Gillard the government.

Keep not listening, bozo.

And I rest my case that all the defensiveness of the righties shows Monckton was a little too loose. Grin

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Reply #13 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:24am

Climate sceptic Lord Monckton told he's not member of House of Lords

The House of Lords has taken the unprecedented step of publishing a "cease and desist" letter on its website demanding that Lord Christopher Monckton, a prominent climate sceptic and the UK Independence party's head of research, should stop claiming to be a member of the upper house.

The letter, sent by David Beamish, clerk of the parliaments, to Monckton last Friday and now published on the Lords' website, states: "You are not and have never been a member of the House of Lords. Your assertion that you are a member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms. No one denies that you are, by virtue of your letters patent, a peer. That is an entirely separate issue to membership of the House.

The letter from Beamish to Monckton continues: "I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a member 'without the right to sit or vote'. I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/18/climate-monckton-member-house-...
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Monckton's claims to be a member of the House of Lords, are similar to his claims on Climate Change, they stretch the truth, much the same as Maqqa.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #14 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:24am progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 11:17am: Obviously. Well, some of us have better things to do than listen to something that's already been decided and moved on from. I don't even understand why Dennis bothered wasting his breath. Must've had a spare hour to kill.
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