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Reply #75 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:36pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 8:08pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.

How come Monckton "debates" in front of an uneducated audience instead of, say, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) General Assembly, who recently met in Australia?

I think deep down you already know the answer to that question.

Im not 100% sure but wasn't the invitation an open one for who would go against Monckton.

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Reply #76 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:37pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:34pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:20pm:

Dr Dennis does not even answer the questions

Monckton smashed him!

LOL! Yah, you just got owned and you don't have the ability to come back with anything other than this. Bottom feeder, that's all you are, a pathetic grub of a bottom feeder! Grin

And you've stoop to name calling

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Reply #77 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:39pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:37pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:34pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:20pm:

Dr Dennis does not even answer the questions

Monckton smashed him!

LOL! Yah, you just got owned and you don't have the ability to come back with anything other than this. Bottom feeder, that's all you are, a pathetic grub of a bottom feeder! Grin

And you've stoop to name calling

Well he hasn't just started. He is turning into a real elitist, not just a wannabe anymore.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Monckton and Dennis - Dennis squished, next Reply #78 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:40pm Even if China was going to put a carbon tax on - they would be looking at $1.50/MT
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Reply #79 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:44pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:14pm:

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You could start by reading the statements made on the subject by the respective institutions. Not ONE scientific peak body disputes AGW science. Not one.

[coloHmmm... how did yer work that out astro_surf ?.. [/color] Huh

"...Most of the developed countries have institutionalized their greenhouse activity within government agencies devoted specifically to mitigation of global warming. Their budgets are enormous. It is not likely that the public servants who staff them will be receptive to doubts about their reason for existence..."

=]Via pg. 76, The Climate Caper, Garth Paltridge, atmospheric physicist and former Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research[/color]

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How does that contradict anything I just said?

Note - I have edited my previous post.

"Not ONE scientific peak body disputes AGW science. Not one"

How did yer work that out astro_surf ?..

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Reply #80 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:17pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:35pm:

Did Al Gore, Tim Flannery, Garnaut get the same question?

Those people aren't in conflict with the views of the the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics or every other peak science body on the face of the planet The first two aren't even claiming to be engaged in the "debate", they are simply communicating the results of the REAL scientific debate. While Garnaut is an economist expressing an opinion on the ECONOMICS of action to prevent climate change, he is an expert speaking from within his field of expertise.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #81 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:19pm

Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

]How did yer work that out astro_surf ?.

Since 2007, when the American Association of Petroleum Geologists released a revised statement,[103] no scientific body of national or international standing rejects the findings of human-induced effects on climate change.[2][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_...

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #82 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 6:56am

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astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:19pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

]How did yer work that out astro_surf ?.

Since 2007, when the American Association of Petroleum Geologists released a revised statement,[103] no scientific body of national or international standing rejects the findings of human-induced effects on climate change.[2][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_...

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Yer quoting wikipedia there astro_surf . Only credible references please. Try again astro_surf ..

"...Connolley took control of all things climate in the most used information source the world has ever known – Wikipedia. Starting in February 2003, just when opposition to the claims of the band members were beginning to gel, Connolley set to work on the Wikipedia site. He rewrote Wikipedia’s articles on global warming, on the greenhouse effect, on the instrumental temperature record, on the urban heat island, on climate models, on global cooling. On Feb. 14, he began to erase the Little Ice Age; on Aug.11, the Medieval Warm Period. In October, he turned his attention to the hockey stick graph. He rewrote articles on the politics of global warming and on the scientists who were skeptical of the band. Richard Lindzen and Fred Singer, two of the world’s most distinguished climate scientists, were among his early targets, followed by others that the band especially hated, such as Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, authorities on the Medieval Warm Period.

All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however, through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator, which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn’t like the subject of a certain article, he removed it — more than 500 articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had them barred — over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him found themselves blocked from making further contributions. Acolytes whose writing conformed to Connolley’s global warming views, in contrast, were rewarded with Wikipedia’s blessings. In these ways, Connolley turned Wikipedia into the missionary wing of the global warming movement..."

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020515/climategate-the-corr...

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Reply #83 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 7:27am

skippy. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:20pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:16pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

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Monckton is arguing the scientific one. He is saying the world is cooling. Contrary to every scientist

"Monckton is arguing the scientific one. He is saying the world is cooling. Contrary to every scientist..."

Eh

... ah thoughts he said the world actually warmed up the last hundred odd years ?

Doctor Jolly

please give a reference to "every scientist" who claims the world is currently warming.

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You may like to go with NOAA, NASA & the CSIRO, for starters.

Yes, who do I believe? the CSIRO and NASA or a fake lord and Gloria Jones???????

Those two organisations are simply singing from the same hymn book and getting their 'facts' from the same source.
And they both quote world average temperatures from a time well before those organisations existence, and before temperatures were logged.
Which means their 'facts' are extrapolation and therefore are more educated guesses than 'facts'.

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Reply #84 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 7:31am

That article about wikipedia is EVERYWHERE. It's amazing how the anti GW crowd propagate these opinion pieces, even Andrew Bolt re-issued it.

I wonder if this is one of the methods of the Heartland Institute? Mass mailouts when they find a sympathetic piece.

It's the obverse of scientific concensus - "blog consensus".

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Reply #85 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 7:40am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:42pm:

But WAIT ... there's MORE from this FRAUDSTER !

Letter to Viscount Monckton of Brenchley from David Beamish, the Clerk of the Parliaments.

Dear Lord Monckton

My predecessor, Sir Michael Pownall, wrote to you on 21 July 2010, and again on 30 July 2010, asking that you cease claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication. It has been drawn to my attention that you continue to make such claims.

In particular, I have listened to your recent interview with Mr Adam Spencer on Australian radio. In response to the direct question, whether or not you were a Member of the House of Lords, you said "Yes, but without the right to sit or vote". You later repeated, "I am a Member of the House".

I must repeat my predecessor's statement that you are not and have never been a Member of the House of Lords. Your assertion that you are a Member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms. No-one denies that you are, by virtue of your letters Patent, a Peer. That is an entirely separate issue to membership of the House. This is borne out by the recent judgment in Baron Mereworth v Ministry of Justice (Crown Office) where Mr Justice Lewison stated:

"In my judgment, the reference [in the House of Lords Act 1999] to 'a member of the House of Lords' is simply a reference to the right to sit and vote in that House ... In a nutshell, membership of the House of Lords means the right to sit and vote in that House. It does not mean entitlement to the dignity of a peerage."

I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a Member "without the right to sit or vote".

I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a Member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not.

David Beamish
Clerk of the Parliaments

15 July 2011

The letter (original)

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2011/letter-to-visco...

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Reply #86 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 8:01am

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 10:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 9:35pm:

Did Al Gore, Tim Flannery, Garnaut get the same question?

Those people aren't in conflict with the views of the the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics or every other peak science body on the face of the planet The first two aren't even claiming to be engaged in the "debate", they are simply communicating the results of the REAL scientific debate. While Garnaut is an economist expressing an opinion on the ECONOMICS of action to prevent climate change, he is an expert speaking from within his field of expertise.

So is Monckton

He's simply communicating his finds - findings that others refuse to look at

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Reply #87 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 8:28am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 21^st, 2011 at 7:27am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:20pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:16pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

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Quote:

via Doctor Jolly:

Monckton is arguing the scientific one. He is saying the world is cooling. Contrary to every scientist

"Monckton is arguing the scientific one. He is saying the world is cooling. Contrary to every scientist..."

Eh

... ah thoughts he said the world actually warmed up the last hundred odd years ?

Doctor Jolly

please give a reference to "every scientist" who claims the world is currently warming.

.

.

You may like to go with NOAA, NASA & the CSIRO, for starters.

Yes, who do I believe? the CSIRO and NASA or a fake lord and Gloria Jones???????

Those two organisations are simply singing from the same hymn book and getting their 'facts' from the same source.
And they both quote world average temperatures from a time well before those organisations existence, and before temperatures were logged.
Which means their 'facts' are extrapolation and therefore are more educated guesses than 'facts'.

So chook prefers an old queen shock jock and a fake lord over the CSIRO and NASA, thanks chook, that tells us a lot about you and how your brain works.

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Reply #89 - Jul 21^st, 2011 at 8:45am

astro_surf wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 8:08pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Monckton said "Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke."

I guess you take it or not as he says. As I dont have anything against him, then my will to chase him over it is less than yours, so I would just take it as he says.

I am sure he is of the understanding that he will be scrutinized more than most, so I dont feel he is dumb enough to think he could get away with something so easily checked.

How come Monckton "debates" in front of an uneducated audience instead of, say, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) General Assembly, who recently met in Australia?

I think deep down you already know the answer to that question.

How about Flannery and Garnaut debate the science? toudblt is, both of these bozos know little of the science but plenty of the hysteria.

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