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Who is Robert Spencer ???
Jul 29^th, 2011 at 10:07am

In the wake of the recent Norway outrage, the man who is the focus of mainstream media hatred, the man who is a modern day "Emmanuel Goldstein" - Robert Spencer

"Take a two-minute break"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/take-a-two-minute-break.html

Who was the 'real' "Emmanuel Goldstein" ???

Google;

"Emmanuel Goldstein" 1984

Emmanuel Goldstein was a fictional character in the "1984" novel, by George Orwell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Emmanuel Goldstein was literally a 'device', used [in the novel] by the ruling fascist regime, to focus the cultural hatred of the proletariat against one man.

A man who was perceived by the members of that society as the personal embodiment of evil, and who was perceived as the cause of all of their suffering.

Today, in Robert Spencer, life is imitating art.
....at least it would, if the mainstream media had its way!

Today, Robert Spencer is a real life "Emmanuel Goldstein"

Who is Robert Spencer ???

http://www.jihadwatch.org/about-robert-spencer.html

Robert Spencer is a truth speaker, he is a man who is hated by many, because he exposes their political deciet and their political lies.

And, you think that it is 2011 ?

It is not 2011.

It is 1984.

Party slogans from 1984....

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Party slogans from those who promote 'tolerance' and ignorance today, the slogans of those who would enslave us to evil....

BLACK IS WHITE
WHITE IS BLACK
GOOD IS EVIL
EVIL IS GOOD

Wake up people.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #1 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 10:51am

Does anyone see similarities? hilarious.....if it wasn't so scary Shocked

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Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik's scary internet world

That has turned attention to his influences, specifically violent online video games and anti-Islam websites that encourage the notion of a clash of civilisations. And the killer's online fantasy world is a scary place indeed.

"Online, he was certainly active in terms of far-right blogs such as Brussels Journal and Gates of Vienna. He had a extensive Facebook network and had built up substantial online links."

The network Breivik claims to belong to is a modern day Knights Templar, the order of Christian crusaders who in modern times are popular with conspiracy theorists and feature in the novels of Dan Brown, the author of The Da Vinci Code.

The political blogs Breivik read included

Jihad Watch,

The Brussels Journal, TheReligionofPeace and Atlas Shrugs, each of which advocates a harsh, polemicist view of Muslims.

"Not everybody who goes on a far-right blog is going to go on a shooting rampage but certainly they are contributing to a wider culture of violence in the far right," Mr Goodwin said. "Some of the ideas that are exchanged on these sites contributed to the ideas that Breivik was using - the notion of a clash between cultures, the notion of an Islamic takeover of Europe, the need to take violent action.

"Even though they're not necessarily creating terrorists, they are certainly contributing to a culture within the far right that holds a potential for violence and that's an important reason to look at them more closely," he added.

"We've spent 10 years looking at al-Qaeda and unfortunately we've got to look at other forms of extremism, including on the internet."

http://www.news.com.au/world/norway-killer-anders-behring-breiviks-scary-internet-world/story-e6frfkyi-1226103979820

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #2 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am

pansi1951,

The truth is that Anders Breivik is a political 'reactionary'.

He is a political 'reactionary' against the REALITY of what ISLAM is, and against what ISLAM openly promotes.

I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM, but i do abhor and condemn his foolish and violent method of 'reacting' to the REALITY of what ISLAM is.

IMO, Anders Breivik has shown himself to be, no better than moslems/ISLAM.

In many posts on OzPol, i have stated that we, the people of the Western nations, should seek to separate ourselves from all aspects of ISLAM and ISLAMIC culture.

THAT, is what i promote.

Separation from ISLAM and ISLAMIC culture.

And my opinion is, that we should expel from our Western societies, everyone, who self declares as a moslem.

Why so ???

Because duh!, ISLAM and moslems, are not compatible, with our Western values of truth, and justice, and liberty.

And by their own conduct, moslems everyday, prove that that FACT is true.

e.g.
Quote:

"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam...
...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.
"We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-countr...

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ISLAM is a political philosophy which promotes the use of violence and mayhem to achieve political objectives....

e.g. #1,

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD

e.g. #2,
Quote:

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy. There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-...

e.g. #3,

Pakistani cleric: 'We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/pakistani-cleric-we-want-islamic-law-for-all-p...

But, where is the condemnation in the media, OUR, MAINSTREAM MEDIA,
....of this violent incitement contained within, and promoted by, ISLAM ???

There is no condemnation of ISLAM in our mainstream media.

There is no criticism of ISLAM in our mainstream media.

Why not ????

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #3 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:57am

Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am:

But, where is the condemnation in the media, OUR, MAINSTREAM MEDIA,
....of this violent incitement contained within, and promoted by, ISLAM ???

There is no condemnation of ISLAM in our mainstream media.

There is no criticism of ISLAM in our mainstream media.

Why not ????

We [the West] are foolish children, because we have forgotten God and his righteousness.

Isaiah 29:9
Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

We are cursed, because of our own choices.

Because we have chosen to embrace and to tolerate wickedness.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Who is Robert Spencer ??? Reply #4 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:39pm Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am: I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM Yup. You people are smacking insane. You have the blood of these people on your hands, as do the est of you hate-filled psycho's that share Breveik's ideology.
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Reply #5 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:41pm

"Not everybody who goes on a far-right blog is going to go on a shooting rampage but certainly they are contributing to a wider culture of violence in the far right," Mr Goodwin said. "Some of the ideas that are exchanged on these sites contributed to the ideas that Breivik was using - the notion of a clash between cultures, the notion of an Islamic takeover of Europe, the need to take violent action.

"Even though they're not necessarily creating terrorists, they are certainly contributing to a culture within the far right that holds a potential for violence and that's an important reason to look at them more closely," he added.

"We've spent 10 years looking at al-Qaeda and unfortunately we've got to look at other forms of extremism, including on the internet."

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #7 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 2:00pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am:

I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM

Yup. You people are smacking insane. You have the blood of these people on your hands, as do the est of you hate-filled psycho's that share Breveik's ideology.

If one nut can discredit his entire ideology, you'd do well to silence yourself, as your attitude does your cause no favours.

In the fullness of time...

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Reply #8 - Jul 29^th, 2011 at 3:31pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:41pm:

"We've spent 10 years looking at al-Qaeda and unfortunately we've got to look at other forms of extremism, including on the internet."

Are you suggesting we hunt down those who have websites exposing the truth about Islam?

Of course the devout muslims would like you to do that they have been pushing for a blasphemy law in the UN to outlaw all critics of Islam,Islamofascism does not tolerate critics.

If there were no fundamentalist muslims doing the fundamentals of Islam then would there be a need for these websites reporting on Islamic Jihad?

I think this website fits the extremism category,its writers are all 100% muslim and they call for jihad against the munafiqs (hypocrites) as well as the infidel.
Many tributes to Osama bin Laden they all say he was martyred and gets the full serve of 72 virgins along with the rivers of milk and honey,just scroll down till you get to the date the navy seals shot osama.
Click on the link for the inspire magazine by al qaeda the Sydney Opera house features in that issue.
www.theunjustmedia.com

If you watched Iraq and remember baghdad bob that sort of reporting is common in Islam.

So this internet extremism you want to look at does that include Islamic websites or just those reporting the results of Islamic Jihad?

Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #9 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 1:18pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:41pm:

"We've spent 10 years looking at al-Qaeda and unfortunately we've got to look at other forms of extremism, including on the internet."

And all the while, from people such as yourself.....

ISLAM gets a 'pass' [i.e. ISLAM is deemed NOT to be accountable, for the violent conduct of moslems].

Yes, lets shut down any and all critical thinking in the West.
We can't have people criticising moslems, even though moslems believe that they have the right to MURDER people who do not believe as they believe.
Clearly it is those people who would criticise ISLAM/moslems who are the trouble makers.
/sarc off

Duh.

And here [below], an example of that moslem/ISLAMIC logic.

Those who resist moslem violence [the Jihad], are declared to be the terrorists.....

Quote:

Bashir calls bombers 'counter-terrorists'
June 26, 2007
HARDLINE Islamic cleric Abu Bakar Bashir said today that extremists blamed for Indonesian bombings were role models for other Muslims and feted them as "counter-terrorists."
"There are no terrorists in Indonesia. What there are, are counter-terrorists," Bashir said.
......But he called on Indonesian Muslims to refrain from accusing people of terrorism, saying it would be tantamount to assisting the US.
Bashir spoke at a press conference to announce plans, together with 13 lawyers from the "Team for the Defence of Muslims," to file a suit demanding that Indonesia's counter-terrorism police unit be disbanded.
Lawyer Munarman alleged that the counter-terrorism squad was financed opaquely by the US, sought to make war against Islam and used torture to secure admissions from suspects.
He also said that the squad was discriminatory as it only acted against Muslims, adding the team planned to file the suit on tomorrow at the South Jakarta district court.
Bashir has redoubled his efforts to get Sharia law enforced in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, since his release from prison.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21973518-23109,00.html

According to moslems, we are told that it is those non-moslems who resist Allah's will, IT IS THOSE WHO SCRUTINISE AND CRITICISE ISLAM, who are the 'terrorists'.

But NOT moslems, who incoherently rage.....

"Do not call us violent, or we will kill you!!"

Quote:

Saturday, September 16, 2006
The "Death to the Pope for Calling Us Violent" Protests

"......Many Islamist activists are so perturbed that they've taken to the streets to proclaim their seething anger at the Pope for questioning their pacifism."

http://abbagav.blogspot.com/2006/09/death-to-pope-for-calling-us-violent.html

IMO, astro_surf, and pansi1951, and people like you are irrational.

'Humanists' and [so called] 'liberals' like yourselves, are off the planet.

You are ideologically driven, so much so, that you absolutely refuse to be swayed by objective truth.

But i have got news for you....
....one day the truth will catch up with you, and you and your friends will not be able to dismiss THAT REALITY.

That will be a day of reckoning.

Isaiah 28:18
And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

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FROM ALLAH'S INSTRUCTION MANUAL FOR MOSLEMS

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:..."
Koran 9.111

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

etc, etc, etc....

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"....A new order will rise. We will drive the machine of war with the sword and the spear and the iron fists of the Orc.
We have only to remove those who oppose us."

Saruman - LOTR

i.e.

"Kill the humans. And the world will belong to us orcs!"

Naw, not in the least like ISLAM's evil rantings, is it?
/sarc off

According to Allah....

THE WHOLE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IT CONTAINS BELONGS TO MOSLEMS...

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44

"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #10 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 1:48pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am:

I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM

Yup. You people are smacking insane. You have the blood of these people on your hands,

as do the est of you hate-filled psycho's that share Breveik's ideology.

Hey, astro_surf,

What part of stating the truth about ISLAM, is insane ???

What part of stating the ISLAM is a deceitful, vicious, violent, supremacist political tyranny, which 'legitimises' murdering its critics, is insane ???

IMO, it is those who [like yourself] try to discount that truth, who are the ones who are intellectually, and rationally, challenged.

But if you are correct, and if i am mistaken, then tell me my error.

How am i misrepresenting ISLAM ???

What have i said, about ISLAM which is untrue ???

What have i said, about ISLAM, which is a 'misrepresentation' of ISLAM ???

I do not misrepresent ISLAM to anyone.

It is persons like yourself, who are misrepresenting what ISLAM is.

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"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:..."
Koran 9.111

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #11 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 3:30pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 30^th, 2011 at 1:48pm:

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 11:21am:

I do NOT disagree with Anders Breivik views of ISLAM

Yup. You people are smacking insane. You have the blood of these people on your hands,

as do the est of you hate-filled psycho's that share Breveik's ideology.

How am i misrepresenting ISLAM ???

Your hate-filled ideology has been discredited. And yet you insist that you agree with Breveik. You are lower than scum.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #12 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 3:33pm

[quote author=Baronvonrort link=1311898068/0#8 date=1311917497]

Are you suggesting we hunt down those who have websites exposing the truth about Islam?/quote]

They should certainly be monitored more closely, they have become the terrorists they claim to despise.

But, no, what we should be doing is marginalising and ostracising such hate-speech for what it is expose it for the hate-filled ideology that it is and stop giving people like you oxygen in the media and the political dialogue.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

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Reply #13 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 4:01pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

#1,
Your hate-filled ideology has been discredited.

#2,
And yet you insist that you agree with Breveik.

You are lower than scum.

Two points.....

#2,
Yes, i agree with Breveik, that ISLAM is a deceitful, vicious, violent, supremacist political tyranny.
That ISLAM is a hate-filled ideology, which 'legitimises' murdering its critics.

#1,
I do NOT subscribe to a 'hate-filled ideology', you see, i am NOT a moslem.

So, how are you associating me, with either [the actions of] Breveik, OR, ISLAM/moslems ???

Hmmmm ?

Please explain ?

Duh.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #14 - Jul 30^th, 2011 at 5:13pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2011 at 1:39pm:

Yup. You people are smacking insane. You have the blood of these people on your hands, as do the est of you hate-filled psycho's that share Breveik's ideology.

astro_surf,

It seems apparent, that Anders Breivik believed that he had the moral right to murder people,
1/ BECAUSE HE DID NOT AGREE WITH THEIR POLITICS, AND,
2/ BECAUSE Anders Breivik DID NOT LIKE ISLAM/moslems.

And many would categorise Anders Breivik as insane, and as a 'hate-filled psycho'.

And as far as that assessment of Anders Breivik goes, i would agree.

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Now astro_surf,

I have to ask you;

What makes the way which moslems think [and how they form their worldview], so vastly different from that insane and 'hate-filled psycho' person, who we know as Anders Breivik ???

How so, and what do i mean ???

I mean, don't moslems, share exactly the same 'political' mindset as Anders Breivik ???

I believe that they [moslems] do.

How so ???

Because it is clear, that a moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy, ISLAM, a philosophy which teaches moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.

And that, to me, sounds very like what Anders Breivik also believes.

i.e.
Anders Breivik killed a large number of Norwegians.

Why so ???

Because Anders Breivik believed that he was justified in killing those people, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE WHAT HE BELIEVED [...about moslems].

Psycho!

Q.
So if Anders Breivik has a criminal mind and a criminal intent, WHO AMONG US, HAS THE VERY SAME TYPE OF CRIMINAL MIND AND CRIMINAL INTENT ???

A.
Good moslems.

Why so ???

Because moslems choose to embrace ISLAM, which teaches moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.

So every moslem, is a potential 'Breivik' among us.

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And from what i know, from my study, of ISLAM's own texts, and doctrines, i confidently make this statement;

Every good moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

Every moslem!

Why so ?

Because moslems believe that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.

And many moslems who live among us are actually planning to do just that.
...as can be confirmed by the numerous plots that have been uncovered by Australian authorities, and have subsequently been brought to our courts for prosecution.

Any comment astro_surf ???

Or, are you just going to call me a 'hate-filled psycho', for expressing a political opinion which does not align with your own political opinion ???

Hmmm ???

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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