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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #30 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:00pm

mozzaok wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

Religion is probably a consequence of evolution.

If by that statement, you mean that people who need to create fantasies to explain the things they do not yet understand, are inclined that way because their brains have not evolved to the point where logic and evidence hold a greater importance for them than ritual and wishful thinking, then you may be right. Wink

It's even worse. They need to believe what is written in some old book written by primitives in order to justify their own existence Wink

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #31 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:02pm

mozzaok wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

Religion is probably a consequence of evolution.

If by that statement, you mean that people who need to create fantasies to explain the things they do not yet understand, are inclined that way because their brains have not evolved to the point where logic and evidence hold a greater importance for them than ritual and

wishful thinking,

then you may be right. Wink

Wishful thinking.........is an atheist saying,

"I wish there was not a creator God who made rules."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #32 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:07pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:02pm:

mozzaok wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

muso wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

Religion is probably a consequence of evolution.

If by that statement, you mean that people who need to create fantasies to explain the things they do not yet understand, are inclined that way because their brains have not evolved to the point where logic and evidence hold a greater importance for them than ritual and

wishful thinking,

then you may be right. Wink

Wishful thinking.........is an atheist saying,

"I wish there was not a creator God who made rules."

so what was the speed of light 6000 years ago ??

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #33 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:09pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

Google;

is the speed of light a constant

so what was the speed of light 6000 years ago ??

For a 'definitive' answer, ask an evolutionary 'scientist'.

Its gotta be recorded in a fossil somewhere, along with the time stamp tag on the side of the fossil.
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #34 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:14pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

Google;

is the speed of light a constant

so what was the speed of light 6000 years ago ??

For a 'definitive' answer, ask an evolutionary 'scientist'.

Its gotta be recorded in a fossil somewhere, along with the time stamp tag on the side of the fossil.
/sarc off

No you are the one who made the assertion that the speed of light is not constant so now you can back up your assertion with facts !!

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #35 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:18pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:14pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

Google;

is the speed of light a constant

so what was the speed of light 6000 years ago ??

For a 'definitive' answer, ask an evolutionary 'scientist'.

Its gotta be recorded in a fossil somewhere, along with the time stamp tag on the side of the fossil.
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No you are the one who made the assertion that the speed of light is not constant so now you can back up your assertion with facts !!

LOL

When i finish my time machine [next week!], i'll travel back in time, taking the required instruments of course, and barring any mis-haps, i will return to the present, and let you know - what the speed of light was 6000 years ago.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #36 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:24pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

LOL

When i finish my time machine [next week!], i'll travel back in time, taking the required instruments of course, and barring any mis-haps, i will return to the present, and let you know - what the speed of light was 6000 years ago.

Tongue

No don't bother returning. Just stay back there with the rest of the brain dead god gobbing morons. You'll be right at home with those god fearing f.ckwits

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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #37 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:45pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:24pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

LOL

When i finish my time machine [next week!], i'll travel back in time, taking the required instruments of course, and barring any mis-haps, i will return to the present, and let you know - what the speed of light was 6000 years ago.

Tongue

No don't bother returning. Just stay back there with the rest of the brain dead god gobbing morons. You'll be right at home with those god fearing f.ckwits

Just another eloquent, and informative post from lastnail.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution? Reply #38 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 2:21pm Quote: n.b. Ancient rocks do not come with date stamps on them. n.b. Fossils which are, 'millions of years old', do not have date stamps on them. Yes they do Yadda.
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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #39 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 2:29pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 12:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 11:35am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 11:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 10:17am:

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 8:55am:

Evolution, is a theory.
Evolution, is a theory.
Evolution, is a theory.

Evolution is a scientific fact

.....the theory explains how it happens.

LOL

Don't be naive.

If anyone can prove a scientific theory is wrong that theory has to be discarded if you knew about science you would understand this fact.

Lots of evidence for evolution here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

The church apologised to Darwin for misunderstanding evolution long after he died-
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Church officials compared the apology to the late Pope JP 2nd decision to say sorry for the vaticans 1633 trial of galileo,the astronomer who apalled prelates by declaring that the earth revolved around the sun.

The officials said that senior bishops wanted to atone for the VILIFICATION their predecessors heaped on Darwin in the 1860"s,when he put forward his theory that man was descended from apes

Read apology from Church to Darwin here-http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1055597/Church-makes-8216-ludicrous-8217...

The church spent all this time bagging Darwin and his theory of evolution then apologised what a bunch of hypocrites!

Baron,

I can't convince you.

Just like everyone else, you have to look at all of the available evidence [from both sides of an argument], and then come to your own conclusion(s), 'belief'.

If you want to believe that there is no God, because you cannot see him, that is for you to decide, for you to choose.

If you want to believe that evolution is not a theory, but that evolution is a scientifically proven fact, that is for you to decide, for you to choose.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution? Reply #40 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 2:39pm
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30093 Gender:	Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution? Reply #41 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 3:09pm Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:45pm: Just another eloquent, and informative post from lastnail. an appropriate response to one of your many fallacious arguments
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49224 At my desk.	Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution? Reply #42 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 7:09pm yes http://www.ozpolitic.com/evolution/evolution-become-religion.html
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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution? Reply #43 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 7:52pm No!
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Re: Is Religion compatible with Evolution?
Reply #44 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 7:58pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

For a 'definitive' answer, ask an evolutionary 'scientist'.

Its gotta be recorded in a fossil somewhere, along with the time stamp tag on the side of the fossil.
/sarc off

you made the assertion so you answer the question !!

any credible scientist would say there was no change in the speed of light so if you have any evidence to the contrary lets hear it.

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