gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 15
th, 2011 at 11:53am:
azulene wrote on Aug 11
th, 2011 at 8:37am:
There are quite a few different ones and they don't get along.
But they are going to the same heaven...
Meaning heaven is going to be filled with argument, hatred and prejudice.
So they have turned heaven into hell before they even got there.
Why should we trust such people with what goes on on earth?
Actually, if you examine the different christian churches, all are convinced that ONLY members of their own particular version will go to heaven.....Which means
if they are all correct, then no one would get in...
LOL
Exactly so.
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Isaiah 64:4
For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
5
Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.
1 Corinthians 2:6
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect:
yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
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But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
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Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Q.
Who are 'the princes of this world' spoken of above ???
A.
They are all of those among men who seek mastery,
in this world, and those who justify themselves to men.
They are among those who say;
"If you wish to enter Heaven, you must be a member of OUR church."
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Jesus said...
"...thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
Revelation 2:6
Revelation 2:15
'Nicolaitan', refers to those who [Nico] 'rule over' or 'conquer', and [the laity] 'the people'.
Jesus in Revelation, and, in the Gospels, said that he hated those hypocrites, who use the authority of 'religion' [a false, worldly 'spirituality'], to rule over men.
Matthew 20:25
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that
the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
Popes???
'Papa'?
"....
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
"...But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
Matthew 23:1-13