What's a strong word, SC? Did he prophecise anything would happen?

Karnal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:

Buddhist teachings (at least in their purest form - i.e. the basic tenets of Buddhism from which all Buddhist traditions have descended) are more accurately defined as non-theistic as opposed to atheistic or agnostic.

The original teachings (at least insofar as they can be discerned) make no statements about a supreme god (or any gods) and do not refer to a state of unknowing about the existence of god... All the teachings have their roots in the basic tenets, those being - the four noble truths, the eightfold path to enlightenment and the three 'poisons' (that obstruct the adherent from attaining enlightenment) - lobha, dvesha and moha, translated as greed, hate/anger and ignorance.

Old Teatament and Jesus agrees with Quran, there is no "trinity":

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.  (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4)"

"God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?  (Numbers 23:19)"

"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.  (From the NIV Bible, Mark 12:29)"



But Jesus was silent, and The High Priest answered and said to him, “I adjure you by THE LIVING GOD that you tell us if you are The Messiah, the Son of God.” Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man
Matthew 26:63-4


Most sane people acknowledge that Paul The Trinitarian was a liar who invented much in the name of Christianity:


Thomas Jefferson: "Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus."


George Bernard Shaw: "No sooner had Jesus knocked over the dragon of superstition than Paul boldly set it on its legs again in the name of Jesus."

Thomas Hardy: "The new testament was less a Christiad than a Pauliad."


Carl Jung (Psychologist): "Paul hardly ever allows the real Jesus of Nazareth to get a word in." (U.S. News and World
Report, April 22, 1991, p. 55)


Jeremy Bentham (English Philosopher):"If Christianity needed an Anti-Christ, they needed look no farther than Paul."

Wil Durant (Philosopher): "Paul created a theology of which none but the vaguest warrants can be found in the words of
Christ."
Fundamentalism is the triumph of Paul over Christ

True. The Judeo Christian religions put God outside us. The tradition the Buddha lived in placed God within. Hindus think the Buddha was an incarnation of Rama, I think. They believe Buddhism is an offshoot of Vedantic thought, and it's true. They are very similar - with the exception of God.

It depends how you see God. You can still become enlightened and believe in God. I don't think it matters, it's quibbling over terms. Some people are suited to more devotional paths, and some are suited to rationalist paths like Buddhism.

One thing's for sure. You don't get to the Kingdom with hate in your heart.

Karnal wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:


Not so.

God declares that it is we [men and women], which separate ourselves from God, by our own ['unlawful' and offensive, to him] actions.

But nevertheless some element of God's spirit always remains with us, with all of us [at least for this present time].





John 2:19
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21  But he spake of the temple of his body.

Acts 7:46
Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
47  But Solomon built him an house.
48  Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

Acts 17:27
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Psalms 32:2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5  The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.







Karnal wrote on Oct 8^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:


So your sure that good moslems have no chance then ?

I would have to concur.      





Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38  This is the first and great commandment.
39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, ...

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.



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"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

There are no Roman records of Jesus ever existing.

It's all a made up story based on earlier Egyptian mythology.

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