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Lifting The Dole By $50 A Week (Read 6633 times)
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Reply #30 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:52am
 
Equitist wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:49am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:45am:
What they need to do is crack down on all the lazy, unkempt, the drug users and welfare mums and kick their lazy arses off the couch and into the real world. Most of ‘em would be too lazy to riot anyway, come on out of bed let's riot!! PMSL

Especially all those gender ambiguous Goth looking freaks.

Then give 50 bucks to genuine job seekers.




how is it that you still have NFI about human socio-economic relations!?



we all know somebody who uses the expression "human socio-economic relations" doesnt either
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Reply #31 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:53am
 
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Raise the dole by $50 a week.  That's fine by me - but introduce a time limit that they can access the dole for.  If I've got to work, so can they.  I don't owe anyone a living.     Absolutely not, you cant introduce a time limit.  Hands up all those that are unemployed, that know how long they will be out of work.   Sad    



Theres no certainty on an exact figure, but lets face it - if you haven't found a job after a year, you haven't been looking.
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Reply #32 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:54am
 
barnaby joe wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:52am:
Equitist wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:49am:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:45am:
What they need to do is crack down on all the lazy, unkempt, the drug users and welfare mums and kick their lazy arses off the couch and into the real world. Most of ‘em would be too lazy to riot anyway, come on out of bed let's riot!! PMSL

Especially all those gender ambiguous Goth looking freaks.

Then give 50 bucks to genuine job seekers.




how is it that you still have NFI about human socio-economic relations!?



we all know somebody who uses the expression "human socio-economic relations" doesnt either

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Reply #33 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:55am
 
Oh FFS, who gives a fat rats clacker.

Weed out the undeserving. May be some national service for the laziest and most stupidly dressed?

And a sticnk meter, yeah, a stink meter, um sorry you smell, no free money for you today, bye-bye.
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Reply #35 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:58am
 
Of course I understand that people with no means of support will go to drsatic measures to survive.

But this has got to be balanced by resposibilities - the individual has the repsonsibility to actually put in a bit of effort to survive on their own.

Cooperation is a 2 way street - I'm happy to chip in to help in times of need, but patience and resources are finite.  You cannot go on draining them indefinitely, while providing absolutely nothing in return.
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Reply #36 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:08pm
 
... wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:32am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 6:55am:
Unemployment benefits need to be lifted by at least $50 a week unless our government want rioters on their hands. It's only a matter of time, you can't suppress people forever and get away with it.



Suppress?  Well, maybe this is a far-out concept for some, but they could always get a smacking job.

Raise the dole by $50 a week.  That's fine by me - but introduce a time limit that they can access the dole for.  If I've got to work, so can they.  I don't owe anyone a living.


I agree with you on the point, the world does not anyone a free living, but if there are statistically 6% of people unemployed, there will not be a job out there for everyone, that is simple fact.
If the jobs are there and not being filled by lack of skill of the workers, the government should put more emphasis on training people instead of simply poaching skilled workers from other countries.
Years ago when I was a shift worker, having a regular job, I used to look in the papers for jobs advertised and go and look how many people applied, and I found that there were often some 25 people applying for one unskilled job, and that on a cold morning when the temperature was close to zero degrees.
So don't try to blame every unemployed for lack of interest in a job; sure some people are more motivated than others, but we are all different, and in race there can only be one winner and someone will finish last.
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Reply #37 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:08pm
 
Theres no certainty on an exact figure, but lets face it - if you haven't found a job after a year, you haven't been looking.   Well I am afraid to say that is simply not so.  People that are out of work for one year or more are classed as long term unemployed.   (And there are many of them )   There are many rules and checks on the unemployed, and yes they do look for work.  They have to in order to be able to continue getting their benefits.    Wink
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Reply #38 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:12pm
 


FriYAY wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:55am:
Oh FFS, who gives a fat rats clacker.

Weed out the undeserving. May be some national service for the laziest and most stupidly dressed?

And a sticnk meter, yeah, a stink meter, um sorry you smell, no free money for you today, bye-bye.




Onya Rosco!

Simple solutions from simple minds: give the lazy and disenfranchised some guns!  Better still, lock them away for a while and teach them how to load and fire those guns - and then let them loose...under surveillance and threat of losing access the freaking Dole...again...on a rigid timeframe...

"Who's the 'loser' now!? Bye bye..."
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Reply #39 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:21pm
 
Equitist wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:12pm:
FriYAY wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 11:55am:
Oh FFS, who gives a fat rats clacker.

Weed out the undeserving. May be some national service for the laziest and most stupidly dressed?

And a sticnk meter, yeah, a stink meter, um sorry you smell, no free money for you today, bye-bye.




Onya Rosco!

Simple solutions from simple minds: give the lazy and disenfranchised some guns!  Better still, lock them away for a while and teach them how to load and fire those guns - and then let them loose...under surveillance and threat of losing access the freaking Dole...again...on a rigid timeframe...

"Who's the 'loser' now!? Bye bye..."


D'oh....

Cause national service gives people guns d'oh.

Thanks for your input Homer.

Perhaps they could have shower stalls and a barber at the dole office. Clean some of the lazy scum bags up.
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Reply #40 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:26pm
 
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Theres no certainty on an exact figure, but lets face it - if you haven't found a job after a year, you haven't been looking.   Well I am afraid to say that is simply not so.  People that are out of work for one year or more are classed as long term unemployed.   (And there are many of them )   There are many rules and checks on the unemployed, and yes they do look for work.  They have to in order to be able to continue getting their benefits.    Wink



No, they have to SAY they've looked for work.  This usually takes the form of looking through the phone book and writing random business names in their book - soemtimes actually done in the centrelink office!  I've seen it wiv me own 2 eyes...
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Reply #41 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:29pm
 
And the big fatties too.

10 minutes on the tread mill and fresh fruit and vegetable stamps for you porky.
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Reply #42 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:51pm
 


... wrote on Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:26pm:
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Theres no certainty on an exact figure, but lets face it - if you haven't found a job after a year, you haven't been looking.   Well I am afraid to say that is simply not so.  People that are out of work for one year or more are classed as long term unemployed.   (And there are many of them )   There are many rules and checks on the unemployed, and yes they do look for work.  They have to in order to be able to continue getting their benefits.    Wink



No, they have to SAY they've looked for work.  This usually takes the form of looking through the phone book and writing random business names in their book - soemtimes actually done in the centrelink office!  I've seen it wiv me own 2 eyes...




Hmmnnn...imagine being an employer of predominantly-low-skilled workers running a business in a high unemployment area - and being harassed on a daily basis throughout the year, by literally thousands of vulnerable, disadvantaged and/or otherwise 'unemployable' and dejected people, who are forced to make/document serial inquiries about non-existent work opportunities and rejections!?

A single parent friend of mine worked as a casual for PixiFoto for well over 5 years (plus various other jobs on-call over that time) - until she was recently laid-off when her store was closed...

When she first started at Pixi, a job vacancy Ad would yield about 20 genuine and at least partly-suitable applicants - a few of whose resumes would warrant an interview - and most of them receiving an actual response of some kind from the prospective employer...

Once the Howard Govt introduced Welfare to Slavery, a single job vacancy Ad would yield about 200 inquiries/applications - including a file-box full of written applications mostly from desperate mothers of young children - and sometimes with none of the applications warranting a phone call much less an actual interview...and the highly-pressured, poorly-paid and inexperienced ridiculously-young managers often neglecting to respond to any of the applicants (and resenting associated ongoing harassment from Control-link chasing up whether the single mums had actually applied)...

Such a stupid wasteful, inefficient and counter-productive system designed by stupid pollies and bureaucrats - to benefit poorly-goaled privatised Job Network Parasites at the expense of everyone else!

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Reply #43 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:51pm
 
There seems to be a few here that have first hand knowledge of 'inside the dole office'   lol
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Reply #44 - Aug 12th, 2011 at 12:55pm
 
I claimed unemployment benefit when I was 19 in the 6 months between going to university and leaving school.

My parents told me to do so, they had paid a king's ransom into the country for near on 30 years so we had definitely paid for the right for me to get it.

I don't have an issue with people claiming benefits, what I do have an issue with is people thinking they should get more and more for doing nothing and that taxpayers should fund it.

We can't afford it.
The country is in debt.
The country had to bring in a levy to pay for Queensland.

How can we afford to give more dole money without affecting taxes for people who work?
It can't be done!!!
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