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Reply #75 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 8:28am

Grey wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 11:55am:

Science says -

"Dinosaurs (from Greek: δεινός terrible or potent, and σαύρα lizard) are a diverse group of animals that were the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for over 160 million years, from the late Triassic period (about 230 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (about 65 million years ago), "

"Humans (known taxonomically as Homo sapiens,[3][4] Latin for "wise man" or "knowing man")[5] are the only living species in the Homo genus of bipedal primates in Hominidae, the great ape family. Anatomically modern humans originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago, reaching full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago."

Creationists say - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080620161223AAm1e72

That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Is this evidence of regression?

But they did co exist. Only in "The Flintstones" though. Maybe the creationists think that is a documentary cartoon series?

Evidence of regression? Don't know about that but I have to say it seems to be largely confined to the USA. And the more I see of the USA the more I suspect the gene pool is pretty shallow. Lots of inbreeding may be the problem.

You know, I had an argument, discussion? no chance, with A few Creationists on a web site about the whole issue.

When I raised dinosaurs as evidence that the world was more than 6000 years old you would not believe what they wrote back.

Apparently there has been a conspiracy of archeologists for the last 100 years where they have een creating and burying fake dinosaur skeletons all around the world.

I smacked my forehead with my hand and said to myself "Of course. It's so obvious, why didn't I see it?"

Regression? Those people make rocks look intelligent and cheese a genius.

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Reply #76 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 9:00am

Grey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 8:05am:

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 12:13am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 10:44pm:

Well technically, NO terrestrial bodies can exist away from the earth at all...

http://scraporchard.com/forum/images/smilies/scoregood.gif

So you're with the landing on the moon all done with smoke and mirrors crowd?

I think you missed the pedantic point that you ar not a terrestrial body id you are not actually ON Terra (Earth).

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Reply #77 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 9:09am

Grey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 8:05am:

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 12:13am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 10:44pm:

Well technically, NO terrestrial bodies can exist away from the earth at all...

http://scraporchard.com/forum/images/smilies/scoregood.gif

So you're with the landing on the moon all done with smoke and mirrors crowd?

No Grey....the term 'terrestrial' means of the land, or of the Earth....so the only terrestrial planet is THIS one..

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Reply #78 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:47am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 9:09am:

Grey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 8:05am:

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 12:13am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 10:44pm:

Well technically, NO terrestrial bodies can exist away from the earth at all...

http://scraporchard.com/forum/images/smilies/scoregood.gif

So you're with the landing on the moon all done with smoke and mirrors crowd?

No Grey....the term 'terrestrial' means of the land, or of the Earth....so the only terrestrial planet is THIS one..

I remain confident that if my mouldering body is found on Mars by an exploration team from the Galactic federation the first thing they will say is, 'WTF is this Earthman doing here?' Cheesy

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Reply #79 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:53am

Grey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

I remain confident that if my mouldering body is found on Mars by an exploration team from the Galactic federation the first thing they will say is, 'WTF is this Earthman doing here?' Cheesy

If we take the term 'terrestrial' as meaning of the land, or of the earth, rather than of the Earth, then you would be an extra-terrestrial....

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Reply #80 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am

boogieman wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 8:28am:

Grey wrote on Aug 15^th, 2011 at 11:55am:

Science says -

"Dinosaurs (from Greek: δεινός terrible or potent, and σαύρα lizard) are a diverse group of animals that were the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for over 160 million years, from the late Triassic period (about 230 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (about 65 million years ago), "

"Humans (known taxonomically as Homo sapiens,[3][4] Latin for "wise man" or "knowing man")[5] are the only living species in the Homo genus of bipedal primates in Hominidae, the great ape family. Anatomically modern humans originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago, reaching full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago."

Creationists say - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080620161223AAm1e72

That yahoo answers lists the creationist answer as the best is a worry. In fact googling [Dinosaur + man] in various combos gives very little in the way of a scientific view.

Is this evidence of regression?

But they did co exist. Only in "The Flintstones" though. Maybe the creationists think that is a documentary cartoon series?

Evidence of regression? Don't know about that but I have to say it seems to be largely confined to the USA. And the more I see of the USA the more I suspect the gene pool is pretty shallow. Lots of inbreeding may be the problem.

You know, I had an argument, discussion? no chance, with A few Creationists on a web site about the whole issue.

When I raised dinosaurs as evidence that the world was more than 6000 years old you would not believe what they wrote back.

Apparently there has been a conspiracy of archeologists for the last 100 years where they have een creating and burying fake dinosaur skeletons all around the world.

I smacked my forehead with my hand and said to myself "Of course. It's so obvious, why didn't I see it?"

Regression? Those people make rocks look intelligent and cheese a genius.

That's proof of why religious instruction should be discouraged and scorned at. However the church institutions have an ulterior motive to spreading such lies and that is to steal as much money from its gullible parishioners as it can Sad

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Reply #82 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:14pm

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

That's proof of why religious instruction should be discouraged and scorned at.

No it isn't. Your whole argument is an ad hominem fallacy, or at very best guilt by association. Your reasoning is pathetic.

It doesn't work like that nails....
There are dozens of different religions (or possibly hundreds, depending on how you define them) which give religious instruction.......but only a handful do the "Praise the Lord and Pass your Wallet" type of preaching....

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Reply #83 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 6:11pm

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

That's proof of why religious instruction should be discouraged and scorned at.

No it isn't. Your whole argument is an ad hominem fallacy, or at very best guilt by association. Your reasoning is pathetic.

You are generous. I normally find his 'reasoning' nopn-existent.

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Reply #84 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:12pm

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

That's proof of why religious instruction should be discouraged and scorned at.

No it isn't. Your whole argument is an ad hominem fallacy, or at very best guilt by association. Your reasoning is pathetic.

so how old is the Universe and what happened to the dinosaurs ?? Cheesy

LOL

I take it that according to your Bible that the Cretaceous Tertiary occurred no more than 6000 years ago and no extra terrestrial body is more than 6000 light years away from the earth. Yeh that really makes your religion and evolution compatible doesn't it Wink

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Reply #85 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 6:11pm:

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

That's proof of why religious instruction should be discouraged and scorned at.

No it isn't. Your whole argument is an ad hominem fallacy, or at very best guilt by association. Your reasoning is pathetic.

You are generous. I normally find his 'reasoning' nopn-existent.

that's because your reasoning is totally f.cked up and you have been caught out so many times making a d.ck of yourself Wink

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Reply #86 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:49am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 4:03pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 4:01pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2011 at 3:59pm:

I hope you noticed that I actually DID answer your question re: dinosaurs and noah, nails....

I didn't see it. Did they become extinct before or after Noah ??

Long long before...
Despite the YEC idea...the dates aren't all that certain....because, even according to thhe Bible itself it wasn't until well after Noah that there was a set age for people....Noah was 600+years old when he built the Ark and assorted people mentioned live to similar or greater ages...

OK, the whole Ark thing. There are countless issues about it but this one has been stuck in my head for a while, other issues aside...

Two of each animal, right......

Following?

Carnivores?

Know what I mean?

When the lion got hungry and it ate a zebra, wouldn't that mean no more zebras?

And then what other species would he wipe out with his next meal?

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Reply #87 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 1:09am

Frances wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:53am:

Grey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

I remain confident that if my mouldering body is found on Mars by an exploration team from the Galactic federation the first thing they will say is, 'WTF is this Earthman doing here?' Cheesy

If we take the term 'terrestrial' as meaning of the land, or of the earth, rather than of the Earth, then you would be an extra-terrestrial....

Only if you write the dictionary Fran; I'm afraid Wink

'extra' (Latin) beyond, or not of. I remain an Earthman, (terran) no matter where I am.

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Reply #88 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 1:40am

I accept that Fran doesn't believe in creationism and probably not in Noahs ark. My concern is not with Fran but with the considerable inroads 'creationists' are making into the mainstream, via aspects of the internet and driven by the American right.

I am curious Fran, given that you appear to me to be a sensible and intelligent being, as to which of the fanciful notions in the Bible you do believe?

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Reply #89 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 1:48am

or as others have put it.

Quote:

christianity -

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Christianity&page=3

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