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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30094 Gender:	Re: Sun sets on Australia's last solar factory Reply #15 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:36pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 4:11pm: And Suntech (and companies like it) is probably the reason that the Australian company is shutting down.. well it is now To bad you only worship coal and AFL
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Reply #16 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:38pm

azulene wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:17pm:

kingofthecastle wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 4:50pm:

And Suntech (and companies like it) is probably the reason that the Australian company is shutting down..

Gizmo I thought you were smart don't you know it's the fault of Gerry Harvey, Ge finance, Tony Abbot, BP, Mobil, Shell, Westfield, the electric car, greedy landlords, the first home buyers grant and global warming.

There you have been 'learnt'.

Dr Zhengrong Shi put the full blueprint of his vision together in Australia and pushed it on the government and investors here but they basically told him to bugger off and invested billions in coal and oil instead. Genius.

plus first home buyers grants and 200 million for Holden to reinvent the petrol car Sad

that's all they invest in here Sad

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106008 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Sun sets on Australia's last solar factory Reply #17 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:43pm Hi Nail, What a shame - when we should be leading the world in solar panels. No wonder that guy went to China & made his fortune. Maybe we should all go to China?
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Reply #18 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:43pm:

Hi Nail,
What a shame - when we should be leading the world in solar panels.

No wonder that guy went to China & made his fortune.

Maybe we should all go to China?

not all !! leave all of the Luddite diptsicks to rot in this place. That will be their punishment Wink

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5446 Gender:	Re: Sun sets on Australia's last solar factory Reply #19 - Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:55pm There is always the possibility that this company was set up only to benefit from government subsidies, not to be a serious player in the solar energy market. No subsidies, lets piss off to China and forget the Australian workers.
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Reply #20 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:16am

Belgarion wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:55pm:

There is always the possibility that this company was set up only to benefit from government subsidies, not to be a serious player in the solar energy market. No subsidies, lets piss off to China and forget the Australian workers.

but that's how a lot of these companies need to get off the ground in this country otherwise aussies only pump money into property and nothing else.

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Reply #21 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 11:47am

Solar energy cost hits par with coal fuel

Ben Cubby, Brian Robins, Melissa Lahoud
August 18, 2011.

THE cost of solar power in parts of NSW has for the first time crept below that of coal-fired electricity - seen as a key tipping point for the expansion of renewable energy.

New data shows solar power is edging towards ''grid parity'', after which it becomes cheaper than fossil fuel-generated energy such as coal and gas, even taking into account the upfront cost of buying rooftop solar panels.

But it was one of the few bright spots for an industry suffering from a 93 per cent drop in rooftop panel installations since the boom late last year at the peak of the NSW bonus scheme.

Workers at Australia's only commercial solar cell maker, the Silex plant at Homebush in Sydney, were told yesterday that cell production would be outsourced to China.

Nevertheless, the flow-on effects of the subsidies have helped achieve grid parity across wide areas of rural NSW. For the first time, the amount paid to households feeding power to the electricity grid passed 28¢ a kilowatt hour, which is the equivalent of buying coal-fired power from a utilities company

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/solar-energy-cost-hits-par-with-c...

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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Sun sets on Australia's last solar factory Reply #22 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 11:53am ... wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:56pm: fancy a bloke named zhengrong shi going to China. a chinaman in china making chinese solar panels
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Reply #23 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

FRED. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

... wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:56pm:

fancy a bloke named zhengrong shi going to China.

a chinaman in china making chinese solar panels Grin

no an Australian chinese having to go back to china to make a buck from technology because aussies were to busy investing in property bubbles Sad

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Reply #24 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:22pm:

FRED. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

... wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 1:56pm:

fancy a bloke named zhengrong shi going to China.

a chinaman in china making chinese solar panels Grin

no an Australian chinese having to go back to china to make a buck from technology because aussies were to busy investing in property bubbles Sad

Dont you worry about it. Its over you head Grin

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Reply #25 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:44pm

O'Farrell blamed for solar job losses

August 17, 2011 - 5:09PM

A Sydney solar company has blamed the NSW government's lack of industry support for its decision to stop manufacturing solar cells and instead import them, leading to the loss of 30 jobs.

Western Sydney solar panel maker Silex Solar says it had to "bite the bullet in order to survive", putting an end to its role as Australia's only cell manufacturer.

Silex will now import the solar cells from overseas but still manufacture the panels at its Sydney factory.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/ofarrell--blamed-for-solar-job-lo...

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Reply #26 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:36pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

And Suntech (and companies like it) is probably the reason that the Australian company is shutting down..

well it is now Sad

To bad you only worship coal and AFL Sad

Yes and TOO bad I don't follow AFL or any other football code and don't 'worship' coal....I just realise that all the alternatives are far more expensive right now....

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Reply #27 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 1:44pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 11:36pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

And Suntech (and companies like it) is probably the reason that the Australian company is shutting down..

well it is now Sad

To bad you only worship coal and AFL Sad

Yes and TOO bad I don't follow AFL or any other football code and don't 'worship' coal....I just realise that all the alternatives are far more expensive right now....

Coal got massive subsidies to get off the ground and so it could be cheap.

Time they pass it on..

We can sit here until other countries make it cheap or we can have some subsidies to do it ourselves and maybe even get an export market. Either way it would create jobs and add to the economy..

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Reply #28 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 4:32pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 12:22pm:

They are just not serious here about climate change and renewable energy. On the other hand we have Doctor NO running around the country like a blue arsed fly saying no to everything. This joint should be run by the Germans !!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-17/sun-sets-on-australia27s-last-solar-factor...

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The only Australian company which manufactures solar cells is closing the operation.

Silex Solar has announced it will stop making the cells at its western Sydney facility, with 30 jobs to be lost.

The company will continue to make solar panels, using imported components.

Silex has blamed a "very tough market" for the decision, but the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union is pointing the finger at the New South Wales Government.

Union state secretary Tim Ayres says the Government's decision to cut the state's Solar Bonus Scheme is a major factor.

"We warned that there would be a possibility of job losses in manufacturing and that is exactly what has happened," Mr Ayres said.

"The decision can be blamed on the roll-back of the Solar Bonus Scheme by the O'Farrell Government, and the Government's failure to implement any sort of framework for the clean technology industry.

"We really need urgent Government action to make sure there is a viable clean technology industry in NSW."

A spokeswoman for NSW Energy Minister Chris Hartcher says the scheme was unaffordable, and Silex has made a commercial decision.

The Minister has suggested the company should approach the Federal Government for help, specifically through its proposed $10-billion clean energy fund.

Barry OFarrell has decimated an entire industry in NSW in only a few short months. Why worry about 30 workers at Silex when close to 5000 workers in solar alone have lost their jobs in the past few months.

You fool, it was the ALP that axed the program and took the feed in tarriff back to $0.20.

OFarrell threatened to hack the previous contracts then reneged due to the cost.

It was the ALP that decimated it, but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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Templar New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44 Perth Gender:	Re: Sun sets on Australia's last solar factory Reply #29 - Aug 18^th, 2011 at 4:33pm Not a bad thing at all, we get them cheaper overseas, send those factory workers over here to WA, we will need an extra 400,000 workers in the next 40 years.
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