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Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia
Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 2:39pm

Maryam is a ex muslim from Iran who speaks up about the sexual apartheid in Islam between the sexes.

A remarkable lady who is campaigning to end stoning to death in parts of the world where religion allows this to happen.

She is also one of the founders of The Council of Ex Muslims - www.councilofexmuslims.com

The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

her schedule-http://watagan.com/newactivist

Maryam Namazie and Wafa Sultan will give you a womans perspective on Islam.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18529 Gender:	Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia Reply #1 - Aug 24^th, 2011 at 4:34pm Quote: Ms Namazie,who is an Iranian exile,said any form of legal accommodation with sharia is like trying to incorporate apartheid into a non racist system of law-they are simply incompatible Read more here-http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/british-campaigner-battles-medi...
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Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia
Reply #2 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:38am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 2:39pm:

Maryam is a ex muslim from Iran who speaks up about the sexual apartheid in Islam between the sexes.

A remarkable lady who is campaigning to end stoning to death in parts of the world where religion allows this to happen.

She is also one of the founders of The Council of Ex Muslims - www.councilofexmuslims.com

The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

her schedule-http://watagan.com/newactivist

Maryam Namazie and Wafa Sultan will give you a womans perspective on Islam.

Iran is a shi-ite country, not Muslim. This like getting an ex-Mormon from Utah to talk about Christianity.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40755 Gender:	Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia Reply #3 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:58am good deflection, but we are talking about islams sexist attitudes here. from an exmuxlim woman, so she should have a valid viewpoint so go pray to your sexaddict prophet
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia Reply #4 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 3:54am If you were honest Sprint, then you would admit that you agree with the Islamic attiude for the most part. Who gives a rats about women's ideals really? Do you?
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Reply #5 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 10:35am

falah wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:38am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 2:39pm:

Maryam is a ex muslim from Iran who speaks up about the sexual apartheid in Islam between the sexes.

A remarkable lady who is campaigning to end stoning to death in parts of the world where religion allows this to happen.

She is also one of the founders of The Council of Ex Muslims - www.councilofexmuslims.com

The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

her schedule-http://watagan.com/newactivist

Maryam Namazie and Wafa Sultan will give you a womans perspective on Islam.

Iran is a shi-ite country, not Muslim. This like getting an ex-Mormon from Utah to talk about Christianity.

What about the Sufi are they muslims or deviant heretics like those twelvers from Iran Falah?

What criteria do you use to determine which sects of Islam are muslim or non muslim Falah?

If it is haram for a muslim to kill another muslim does saying they are not muslims allow you to kill those from sects you dont agree with?

The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran-
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Chapter 1 article 1-14 General Principles
Article 2-That the leadership be qualified in regard to the Quran and sunnah
Article 4- Article 4 is immutable and the council of Guardians ensures that all articles of the Constitution as well as other laws are based on Islamic criteria.
Chapter XI Judiciary
Article 167 stipulates that judges must make use of Islamic sources and fatwas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Iran

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Reply #6 - Sep 1^st, 2011 at 1:51pm

falah wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:38am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 2:39pm:

Maryam is a ex muslim from Iran who speaks up about the sexual apartheid in Islam between the sexes.

A remarkable lady who is campaigning to end stoning to death in parts of the world where religion allows this to happen.

She is also one of the founders of The Council of Ex Muslims - www.councilofexmuslims.com

The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

her schedule-http://watagan.com/newactivist

Maryam Namazie and Wafa Sultan will give you a womans perspective on Islam.

Iran is a shi-ite country, not Muslim. This like getting an ex-Mormon from Utah to talk about Christianity.

Ali Sina is another critic of Islam he is an ex muslim from Iran.

He quotes the Bukhari hadith which the sunni/salafi/sufi/wahhab all follow- the shia have different hadiths.

www.alisina.org

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Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia
Reply #7 - Sep 2^nd, 2011 at 11:03am

falah wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:38am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 2:39pm:

Maryam is a ex muslim from Iran who speaks up about the sexual apartheid in Islam between the sexes.

A remarkable lady who is campaigning to end stoning to death in parts of the world where religion allows this to happen.

She is also one of the founders of The Council of Ex Muslims - www.councilofexmuslims.com

The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

her schedule-http://watagan.com/newactivist

Maryam Namazie and Wafa Sultan will give you a womans perspective on Islam.

Iran is a shi-ite country, not Muslim.

Why split hairs? ALL Muslim countries are pretty shi-te.

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Reply #8 - Sep 3^rd, 2011 at 9:39am

Amadd wrote on Aug 26^th, 2011 at 3:54am:

If you were honest Sprint, then you would admit that you agree with the Islamic attiude for the most part.
Who gives a rats about women's ideals really? Do you?

Do women care about men's ideals? Usually - no!

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The one law for all campaign in the UK also has her working to get rid of the sharia courts in the UK that send womens rights back to the 7th century.

Maryam is in Australia giving talks on Islam and sharia law.

She's very brave, but will end up being murdered. Britain has a history of honor killings. The UK, by even allowing Sharia Law to exist has totally disregarded equal rights for women. It has taken centuries to become civilised and now it's come undone because of gutless governments predominantly comprised of males. Hopefully these unjust laws regarding females will be revoked.

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The bill, proposed by Lady Cox and backed by women's rights groups and the National Secular Society, was drawn up because of "deep concerns" that Muslim women are suffering discrimination within closed sharia law councils.

The Arbitration and Mediation Services (Equality) Bill will introduce an offence carrying a five-year jail sentence for anyone falsely claiming or implying that sharia courts or councils have legal jurisdiction over family or criminal law. The bill, which will apply to all arbitration tribunals if passed, aims to tackle discrimination, which its supporters say is inherent in the courts, by banning the sharia practice of giving woman's testimony only half the weight of men's.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jun/08/sharia-bill-lords-muslim-women

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Maryam Namazie on sharia law in Australia Reply #9 - Sep 4^th, 2011 at 3:10am Quote: Do women care about men's ideals? Usually - no! Nice to hear you speak the truth there Mantra. So what is the answer? Is the answer equality? As for the rest - sorry, I shouldn't say such dribble.
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Reply #10 - Sep 4^th, 2011 at 9:00am

Amadd wrote on Sep 4^th, 2011 at 3:10am:

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Do women care about men's ideals? Usually - no!

Nice to hear you speak the truth there Mantra.

That is my truth only, but I'm sure there are many good Christian women out there standing behind their "men" unconditionally. To me believing in, and caring about the idealism of the opposite sex is only for the young. As we age idealism usually fades and becomes the same old empty rhetoric.

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So what is the answer?
Is the answer equality?

Nope. The answer is that I am more physically powerful than you, so shut the fkcu up on these ridiculous women's issues and do what I say. You have already stated the truth there.

Like it or leave it. That's just the nature of things.

Some women like the cave man approach - but it can be pretty offensive if you don't.

I don't know what the answer is. I don't think it's equality - but perhaps learning respect for each other and that has to be earned first for those of us who have been badly bitten. It seems a lot of us just give up trying.

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Now if you choose to go against the nature of things, then that's entirely up to you.

Believe you me, it don't work. It cannot ever work. It's not nature.

I know my mother intimately and honestly..she's an absolute nasty person of a person.
I know the ideals of women intimately and honestly...they are an absolute nasty person of an ideal.

Go back to school.

Parents stuff a lot of children up for the opposite sex - not always intentionally.

Women can be more selfish than men that's a fact, but they should know instinctively to turn it around and start making sacrifices when they bring a child into the world. That applies to men also.

The unfortunate side of this is once you start revolving your life around your children's needs for a couple of decades - it's very difficult to remember what your needs are.

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Reply #11 - Sep 7^th, 2011 at 10:15am

That's a very confronting response there mantra, and I do see that your sensitivity and your forwardness of realised opinion is something to be reckoned with there.
I can see why you want me to continue with my emotional outburst.

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That is my truth only, but I'm sure there are many good Christian women out there standing behind their "men" unconditionally. To me believing in, and caring about the idealism of the opposite sex is only for the young. As we age idealism usually fades and becomes the same old empty rhetoric.

Oh well, if they believe in some "Christian God", then that's their problem just the same as Christian men isn't it? Not much has changed there.

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Some women like the cave man approach - but it can be pretty offensive if you don't.

What do you mean there?

I don't know what the answer is. I don't think it's equality - but perhaps learning respect for each other and that has to be earned first for those of us who have been badly bitten. It seems a lot of us just give up trying.

There ain't much use changing things when you're on a winner. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it. Women are on a laughable winner in this stuffed up western society.

I've said to my mum over and over, go to your daughter for advice.
I've done all I can. I've given all I can, now it's over. Go to your daughter, not to me. Leave me alone.

Jeez..my dad was at the cusp of suicide before he found a new light. And that new light was an exact opposite of what i see in my mum crying these crocodile tears now. I really don't need this crap at this time. She should have at least a little respect for me and my father and just go away.
Whatever her lover provided to her, whether it be a big cock or a big wallet, it didn't provide anything to me so she should live with it. i

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Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2011 at 12:36pm

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That's a very confronting response there mantra, and I do see that your sensitivity and your forwardness of realised opinion is something to be reckoned with there.
I can see why you want me to continue with my emotional outburst.

That comment makes me feel like a voyeur Amadd - but it's true. I prefer honesty to superficiality and why pretend something is good when it isn't.

Mothers get put in the firing line a lot by sons - whether they're unselfish or selfish. It's not uncommon for a son to be angry at a bewildered mother.

I'm sorry that your father is suffering Amadd and glad that he got a second chance at embracing life. It's horrible watching a parent die though and you're fortunate that you're so close to him. It's a comfort for you both.

As far as the caveman comment goes - I just meant some women prefer the more gentle approach with sweet words while others seem to embrace a bit of rough interaction. Then again it depends on a lot of factors and desires sometimes change.

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Reply #13 - Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:43am

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As far as the caveman comment goes - I just meant some women prefer the more gentle approach with sweet words while others seem to embrace a bit of rough interaction. Then again it depends on a lot of factors and desires sometimes change.

Yes I think that's true. And sometimes maybe even a bit of each.

In some ways I think that western women in general display a bit of an underlying support for laws such as "sharia", which we are meant to see as being reprehensible in our western society.

I think that women are generally wiser to their weaknesses in most aspects.

But still, if the carrot is there, it will be taken.
Laws need to revolve around human nature, and not around some fanciful lamebrain idea of changing human nature.

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Reply #14 - Sep 12^th, 2011 at 8:12am

Just to add, my opinion of many women being in support of cultures such as "sharia" is primarily based on the lack of fight that I see against it.
If this is a supposed "equalistic western society", then I'd expect some ground level opinion which aligns with those of men. I don't see that that at all. Moreso, I see opinions that align with the hairy arab.

I really wonder what western suckers have been duped into believing sometimes Grin

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